What was the forbidden fruit that Prophet Adam (pbuh) and Even ate in heaven and were expelled after that? Some people say it was an apple. was it really an apple?
Mufti Shafi Usmani wrote in Mariful Quran that Allah SWT just mention it as a tree and no other details so it will be better not to inquire which tree it was when Allah SWT hide its details.
Mufti Shafi Usmani wrote in Mariful Quran that Allah SWT just mention it as a tree and no other details so it will be better not to inquire which tree it was when Allah SWT hide its details.
jazaki Allah khyran...people WILL fall into error when they fill the blanks out of whim- what type of fruit is indeed irrelevant!
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I've from bibilical scholars that apples were not indigenous to the middle east. They said more that more likely it would have been a pomegranite.
And I do agree with sis endy that it'd probably be better for us if we do not dwell on it. Keep in mind that it was another alam.. I recall a hadith where the Prophet (pbuh) mentioned that the difference between this world and the next is like a drop of water and the ocean. While the alam that Adam and Hawa resided in might not necessarily be the alam of the "next world" I think the example of a drop of water and the ocean should tell us just how small the dunya is.
Here,i extracted this part for you people from Mariful Quran bu Mufti Muhammad Shafi Usmani RA.
(2:35) And We said: “O Adam, live in the Garden, you and your wife, and eat abundantly of whatever you wish but do not approach this tree or else you will be counted among the wrong-doers.
I'm not saying Heaven is in the middle east. Just quoting what I heard and thats according to jewish/christian beliefs about eden being on earth. They were talking about it in the literal sense not the theology of it.
indeed some theologians believe Eden is Adan in modern day Yemen when it was green and beautiful before many d@mnations befell it but that's all conjectural... we shouldn't conjecture where we might fall into error!
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
The Qur'an tells the story of Adam and Eve (peace be upon them both) for moral purposes. They were both admitted to the garden, both warned against eating from one particular tree, the nature of which is not specified nor necessary. They were warned that if they ate from the tree, they would be wrong-doers and that if they listened to Satan, he would cause them to be deprived of the garden. Satan had said that he would do his best to mislead humans. Placing Adam and Eve in the garden gave them their first experience of dealing with this challenge. After eating from the tree, they had to leave the garden, but both of them repented and were forgiven by God. Their repentance was fully accepted.
This lesson for all the descendants of Adam tells us that we, as humans, have the freedom to choose, to err, and to repent sincerely if we wish, and should we do so, we will find Allah, Forgiving, Merciful. And that we need to be careful of Satan trying to mislead us.
The name of what they ate from the tree is not needed nor necessary, in the face of the story told and the huge lesson learnt. Allah tells us only what He deems necessary for us to know to grasp the story, and learn the lesson contained within it, not intricate little details that we might otherwise get sidetracked on. In some places in the Qur'an, even individuals are mentioned without names. If the individual is righteous, that is mentioned. If he did a good deed, that is mentioned as being good. Enough detail is given for the message to be understood, without getting bogged down intricate details. We must remember that the Qur'an is above all, a book of guidance. In the Qur'an, it isn't about long detailed historical narratives, but what is mentioned is mentioned for the lessons and morals contained within it.
Stunningly beautiful adhaan from the Dome of the Rock in Masjid ul Aqsa Download (right click and choose "save target/link as").
This is a clear message for mankind in order that they may be warned thereby, and that they may know that He is only One God, and that those of understanding may take heed (14:52)
Indeed Allah knows, and you know not (16: 74, part)
Symbolization of apple as forbidden fruit is not from Bible, but from renaissance arts. Renaissance artists described the forbidden fruit as apple because "apple" and "evil" have same Latin word, "malum".
From what I know, Christian priests in my place never say apple when they talked about forbidden fruit, but just "forbidden fruit".
Okay, it's better if we use our logic. If the forbidden fruit is apple, it's means everyone who eat apple will fall into sin. Is there conception "you get sin if you eat apple" in Islam and Christianity?.
Maybe there are more than one name for forbidden fruit in Islam, but I know only one name, Quldi.
What is quldi? I was so curious too when I was kid. So, when my auntie gave me a fruit that I've never seen before, I asked her "auntie, is it quldi fruit?"
I have asked this question to understand the symbolization of the apple. Does it represent good or evil because i've seen in some movies, cartoons and even video games, the bad guy with an apple somehow connecting to something very sinister. so i thought that the apple could represent something very sinister. and did u notice how they design a pumpkin into a devil's head specially on halloween? i found a taweez in my home and at the back of that taweez there was that same evil pumpkin head with something written in arabic under it.
and about the apple i saw in a dream which i had just after fajr prayer while lying on my right shoulder. i remember i was half awake and half asleep. the dream was so lucid u know. i saw a black ugly woman standing a few distance away from me, offering me an apple. so im just trying to understand how do these fruits have connection with satanism and magic? please anyone have any idea on it let me now to get the puzzles together, then maybe by the will of Allah, i can figure out how she did the sihr on me. please help me.
Maybe your home need to be 'neutralized' from the magic in that taweez, and it's better if you 'neutralize' your home with du'a. But I don't know the right du'a for it.
I have asked this question to understand the symbolization of the apple. Does it represent good or evil because i've seen in some movies, cartoons and even video games, the bad guy with an apple somehow connecting to something very sinister. so i thought that the apple could represent something very sinister. and did u notice how they design a pumpkin into a devil's head specially on halloween? i found a taweez in my home and at the back of that taweez there was that same evil pumpkin head with something written in arabic under it.
and about the apple i saw in a dream which i had just after fajr prayer while lying on my right shoulder. i remember i was half awake and half asleep. the dream was so lucid u know. i saw a black ugly woman standing a few distance away from me, offering me an apple. so im just trying to understand how do these fruits have connection with satanism and magic? please anyone have any idea on it let me now to get the puzzles together, then maybe by the will of Allah, i can figure out how she did the sihr on me. please help me.
Don't be so superstitious. The idea of an apple as the forbidden fruit seems to have come from Europe, and was mostly just conjecture from historical Christians. It likely came about because the Latins words for "evil" and "apple" sounded similar, and it's because of this that the apple came to symbolize things like temptation or the fall of man throughout western literature/media.
I have asked this question to understand the symbolization of the apple. Does it represent good or evil because i've seen in some movies, cartoons and even video games, the bad guy with an apple somehow connecting to something very sinister. so i thought that the apple could represent something very sinister. and did u notice how they design a pumpkin into a devil's head specially on halloween? i found a taweez in my home and at the back of that taweez there was that same evil pumpkin head with something written in arabic under it.
and about the apple i saw in a dream which i had just after fajr prayer while lying on my right shoulder. i remember i was half awake and half asleep. the dream was so lucid u know. i saw a black ugly woman standing a few distance away from me, offering me an apple. so im just trying to understand how do these fruits have connection with satanism and magic? please anyone have any idea on it let me now to get the puzzles together, then maybe by the will of Allah, i can figure out how she did the sihr on me. please help me.
I remember watching a drama based on a true story of a Shaheed here who was rewarded with "Nishane-Haider" the biggest Military award here.His Mother saw a dream before his shahadah that an old pious looking man came to her an asked for one of two apples she had in her hands.She gave him the best apple and the other was not as good.And after some time,one of her two sons who was in Army martyred in a war.In her dream,apple represent her sons and the good one was her noble son which she gave in the way of Allah SWT.
Fruits are one of the bounties of Allah SwT and they do not represent evil but the ugly black woman in your dream is the evil part.I read in Bukhari chapter of dreams that a black woman represents illness or loss.Allah swt knows what your dream means but to me its like you'll be offered a benefit from a evil source.I'll check this in dictionary of dreams Inshallah.
Last edited by Endymion; 07-18-2012 at 03:59 AM.
Reason: dunno why i write his instead of her :/
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