As Salaam Alaikum I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is dead in the West in the UK and in America when the fact is that
David Duke an Ex KKK Leader got over 65% of the White Vote the Majority of the White Vote in the State of Louisiana when he ran for Senate and Governor
in the Years 1990 and 1991 he was Elected to the House of Representatives in Louisiana in 1989. My point is how can we say Racism is dead in the United States and than call
Muslims Radical ? By the way I respect some of the things People like David Duke Pat Buchanan and Louis Farrakhan say as far as political stuff but I don't agree with their views on Religion I can admire and agree with Louis Farrakhan on American Foreign Policy. However I don't agree with Louis Farrakhan on how he wants to change the teachings of Islam what does everyone think ? By the way I could care less if a Person wants to have a Ethnic/Racial/National Identity as long as they respect felllow Human Beings as Human Beings.
Louisiana gubernatorial election, 1991
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The Louisiana gubernatorial election of 1991 resulted in the election of Edwin Edwards to his fourth non-consecutive term as governor of Louisiana. The election received national and international attention due to the unexpectedly strong showing of David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, who had ties to other white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups.
Re: I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is de
format_quote Originally Posted by العنود
Racism was created and perpetuated by the west so how can they say it is ridiculous?
Racism was not created in the west. Most nations/cultures have racism in them, and Arabs are not an exception. Was there not racism in the time of the Prophet as well?
Re: I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is de
format_quote Originally Posted by Tyrion
Racism was not created in the west. Most nations/cultures have racism in them, and Arabs are not an exception. Was there not racism in the time of the Prophet as well?
Islam abolished racism, changed attitutdes and made no one superior to another save through piety.. we're talking about folks who've segregated churches per one of them because 'God created man in his image and God wasn't the N word'
so frankly I have no idea what you're talking about.. What they have in our neck of the world is inferiority as the westerners imposed upon the world the lie that they concocted one of their superiority!
best,
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Re: I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is de
format_quote Originally Posted by العنود
so frankly I have no idea what you're talking about..
Well, you said this:
format_quote Originally Posted by العنود
Racism was created and perpetuated by the west
Which is wrong, so I tried to tell you that racism has always existed. Sure, Islam took steps to stop it. Doesn't matter though, since that's not what you said. Racism existed, otherwise why would Islam need to take steps to get rid of it? It existed then, and it exists now, with or without the west.
Re: I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is de
format_quote Originally Posted by Tyrion
Well, you said this:
Which is wrong, so I tried to tell you that racism has always existed. Sure, Islam took steps to stop it. Doesn't matter though, since that's not what you said. Racism existed, otherwise why would Islam need to take steps to get rid of it? It existed then, and it exists now, with or without the west.
Indeed that is what I wrote since I am speaking of the current situation not centuries upon centuries ago. And indeed the west started and perpetuated these ideas.. I don't feel like taking out large almanacs to write of vile disgusting experiments, apartheid and heinous acts that occurred not only then but still to modern day. Open a history book- I feel bored just replying back to you!
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Re: I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is de
As a native Texan I can say that racism is still rampant (I'm not a participant).
I feel like, as the educated society that we claim to be, its completely ridiculous.
Besides, race is a social construct created to engender more hate and to make one 'type' of person superior to another.
But, it's also from all parties involved. Not just white, not just black, not just hispanic, etc.
Re: I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is de
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
Racism is a universal vices which arise naturally. It could happen anywhere, to anyone.
indeed- some have perfected the psychology of that game though- it isn't inherent in Islamic nature - it's in theirs though and still to modern day!
Ever saw a black Mormon?
Even in their early days they rather kill the aborigines than offer them religion because they believed them soulless!
I don't make this up those are the things history teaches took that in school in fact the history teacher seemed do proud of that and she'd always utter ' if you're not white you're black and let her eyes fall upon any individual who is pale but not a wasp!
This was one of the top ten schools in the nation I wonder in retrospect what the average school taught?
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Re: I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is de
format_quote Originally Posted by العنود
Indeed that is what I wrote since I am speaking of the current situation not centuries upon centuries ago.
You are a little mixed up today. When you erroneously claim that 'racism was created by the west' this has to mean in the distant past, not recently - or else you are simply using the wrong word. Racism is recorded throughout history (and even in the Qur'an as Tyrion points out). So, this statement is factually wrong.
To say it has been 'perpetuated' by the west is also wrong, as racism exists and has existed all over the world entirely independently of the west. Once again this is the wrong word. It is true to say that racism continues in the west, as indeed it does elsewhere, including Muslim countries, despite the efforts of many people to eliminate it.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Independent
You are a little mixed up today. When you erroneously claim that 'racism was created by the west' this has to mean in the distant past, not recently - or else you are simply using the wrong word. Racism is recorded throughout history (and even in the Qur'an as Tyrion points out). So, this statement is factually wrong.
To say it has been 'perpetuated' by the west is also wrong, as racism exists and has existed all over the world entirely independently of the west. Once again this is the wrong word. It is true to say that racism continues in the west, as indeed it does elsewhere, including Muslim countries, despite the efforts of many people to eliminate it.
You are factually wrong in both claims.
umm where's the part that 'tyrion' pointed out in 'even the Quran'? Or are you confused today? lol at least cross your T's and dot your I's before you accuse another of confusion so you're not always caught trying to save face!
I do understand your need to be here to spread the usual but it doesn't stick least of which when all we've is your harangue and personal opinion. Honesty is an expensive gift I guess one can't expect it from cheap people!
Best,
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Re: I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is de
Being Muslim or non-Muslim isn't about racism. However if that's how we're talking about it I find it ironic that in a thread about racism the west is being blamed for all the racism in the world
Re: I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is de
format_quote Originally Posted by LauraS
Being Muslim or non-Muslim isn't about racism. However if that's how we're talking about it I find it ironic that in a thread about racism the west is being blamed for all the racism in the world
Re: I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is de
I vehemently renounce the allegations that my native nation is responsible for the preponderance of racism in the world.
I'll admit to the federal government's propagation of horse flies, though. Oh, and the phenomenon of Muslims tripping in the dark. That one is true! (Actually a Mossad/CIA joint effort). Darn... mosquitoes! Yes, yes. Confession: Americans are wholly at fault for all infected mosquito bites worldwide. You got us there.
Just check PressTV or youtube, that'll prove it.
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people kill for all sorts of reasons but to drag someone to death by tying them to the back of your car purely for their skin color..
Also wondering how you feel about such comments for instance:
Fury at DNA pioneer's theory: Africans are less intelligent than Westerners
I mean isn't this abuse of ones position to perpetuate racist ideology?
Darwin before them stating blacks are a specie between apes and fully evolved man (not in so many words but the gist of)
Come on- people should take credit for the crap they plant and perpetuate at least if in partial form. I didn't say ALL westerners are racist or ALL not westerners aren't.. it is rather obvious though to modern day who still holds on to the ideology of superiority and subjugates others because of said belief.
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Re: I wanted to say I find it to be nonsense when I hear Non Muslims say Racism is de
I would say now, today, that most are not racist. I would admit, most, however, are prejudiced. I believe - have to believe - that we are all (worldwide) trying to be better.
To our non-American Muslim readers especially: If you met me, a 6-2, green eyed Yankee, would you have certain preconceived notions about me? That's prejudice. Please set it aside and get to know me. (And there are many on this form I would love to visit with one on one!) Let's talk and make our own conclusions, not what media machines or governments perpetrate. If you would refuse that option, that's racism.
I admit the human fault of prejudice. I make it a point to give anyone I work with (hundreds daily) of a different ethnicity a blank slate so I prove to myself (almost always) that people are all individuals and rarely mold into the stereotypes we so often see in the media. This is my own human fault, but I am aware of it and I am trying trying to be better. I think about how many beautiful friends and students I could have missed out on knowing.
And...I can't argue with your comment about racism in the world or as portrayed in western media. I have basically said the same above. Thank you for your anecdote stating this is not a total cultural phenomenon of western people; in fact, I see it improving all the time.
I saw some things growing up that would be tolerated not at all in today's culture. And that's a good thing, even if we still have too many horse flies!
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I am using my phone:
Darwin's belief that some races (such as blacks) were inferior to others became so widely accepted that, as Haller concluded: 'the subject of race inferiority was beyond critical reach in the late nineteenth century.45 Although Darwin opposed all forms of slavery, he did conclude that one of the strongest evidences for evolution was the existence of living 'primitive races' which he believed were evolutionarily between the 'civilized races of man' and the gorilla:
'At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time, the anthropomorphous apes. . . will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla. ... It has often been said ... that man can resist with impunity the greatest diversities of climate and other changes; but this is true only of the civilized races. Man in his wild condition seems to be in this respect almost as susceptible as his nearest allies, the anthropoid apes, which have never yet survived long, when removed from their native country.' 46
Stick into google and see all sorts of marvelous things- then pretty pls take a hiatus and come back better equipped undoubtedly from atheist apologetic sites just the same as your insta scholarship! see what other word play can render that factual and civilized!
Best,
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