When I was a kid, every traveling I always saw the beautiful scenery such as gardens, rice fields, or other green areas. Sometimes I also visited the green area to enjoy the natural coolness that filled with plants.
Now ?. Many of those green areas that have been lost, changed into residential areas. The cause is because the human population continues to grow. Yes, this is what happens if the population continues to grow. Green nature will be lost and turned into a concrete jungle, the weather will be hotter, and the air will be dirty.
This is what makes me often worry about the fate of my descendants, because I know, overpopulation will cause damage to the earth. It has been seen now. Earth has become hotter, floods and landslides occur everywhere.
Yes, I often worry, what will happen to my descendants if the earth no longer hospitable to humans ?.
because it is the worst. their gmo seeds have not delivered on promise. in India, 30 farmers commit suicide every day because of monsanto. monsanto is a proper dajjal agency. get rid of monsanto and bring back the organic.
Bro futuwwa, you can look up monsanto yourself and see what they are doing to world fruit and veg produce. They also got the monopoly om water now, claiming it is no longer a human right... and worse, they are filing for more.
But don't take my word for it. I'm just some random on the web. Investigate.
I know what Monsanto is and does. Now, tell me, how does that disprove the notion that there is such a thing as overpopulation?
If you want to convince me (or pretty much anyone else who isn't already so), you will have to make an actual argument, not just say "I'm right, you're wrong, because the Internet".
Sister herbs argument is that the worlds crop peoduction cannot support humanity in the modern age, my argument is simple - get rid of monsanto then, their seeds have lowered global crop production by almost 30 % and the wastage is phenomenal.
onsanto’s talk of ‘technology’ tries to hide its real objectives of control over seed where genetic engineering is a means to control seed,
“Monsanto is an agricultural company.
We apply innovation and technology to help farmers around the world \produce more while conserving more.”
“Producing more, Conserving more, Improving farmers lives.”
These are the promises Monsanto India’s website makes, alongside pictures of smiling, prosperous farmers from the state of Maharashtra. This is a desperate attempt by Monsanto and its PR machinery to delink the epidemic of farmers’ suicides in India from the company’s growing control over cotton seed supply — 95 per cent of India’s cotton seed is now controlled by Monsanto.
Control over seed is the first link in the food chain because seed is the source of life. When a corporation controls seed, it controls life, especially the life of farmers.
Monsanto’s concentrated control over the seed sector in India as well as across the world is very worrying. This is what connects farmers’ suicides in India to Monsanto vs Percy Schmeiser in Canada, to Monsanto vs Bowman in the US, and to farmers in Brazil suing Monsanto for $2.2 billion for unfair collection of royalty.
Through patents on seed, Monsanto has become the “Life Lord” of our planet, collecting rents for life’s renewal from farmers, the original breeders.
Patents on seed are illegitimate because putting a toxic gene into a plant cell is not “creating” or “inventing” a plant. These are seeds of deception — the deception that Monsanto is the creator of seeds and life; the deception that while Monsanto sues farmers and traps them in debt, it pretends to be working for farmers’ welfare, and the deception that GMOs feed the world. GMOs are failing to control pests and weeds, and have instead led to the emergence of superpests and superweeds.
The entry of Monsanto in the Indian seed sector was made possible with a 1988 Seed Policy imposed by the World Bank, requiring the Government of India to deregulate the seed sector. Five things changed with Monsanto’s entry: First, Indian companies were locked into joint-ventures and licensing arrangements, and concentration over the seed sector increased. Second, seed which had been the farmers’ common resource became the “intellectual property” of Monsanto, for which it started collecting royalties, thus raising the costs of seed. Third, open pollinated cotton seeds were displaced by hybrids, including GMO hybrids. A renewable resource became a non-renewable, patented commodity. Fourth, cotton which had earlier been grown as a mixture with food crops now had to be grown as a monoculture, with higher vulnerability to pests, disease, drought and crop failure. Fifth, Monsanto started to subvert India’s regulatory processes and, in fact, started to use public resources to push its non-renewable hybrids and GMOs through so-called public-private partnerships (PPP).
In 1995, Monsanto introduced its Bt technology in India through a joint-venture with the Indian company Mahyco. In 1997-98, Monsanto started open field trials of its GMO Bt cotton illegally and announced that it would be selling the seeds commercially the following year. India has rules for regulating GMOs since 1989, under the Environment Protection Act. It is mandatory to get approval from the Genetic Engineering Approval Committee under the ministry of environment for GMO trials. The Research Foundation for Science, Technology and Ecology sued Monsanto in the Supreme Court of India and Monsanto could not start the commercial sales of its Bt cotton seeds until 2002.
And, after the ****ing report of India’s parliamentary committee on Bt crops in August 2012, the panel of technical experts appointed by the Supreme Court recommended a 10-year moratorium on field trials of all GM food and termination of all ongoing trials of transgenic crops.
But it had changed Indian agriculture already.
Monsanto’s seed monopolies, the destruction of alternatives, the collection of superprofits in the form of royalties, and the increasing vulnerability of monocultures has created a context for debt, suicides and agrarian distress which is driving the farmers’ suicide epidemic in India. This systemic control has been intensified with Bt cotton. That is why most suicides are in the cotton belt.
An internal advisory by the agricultural ministry of India in January 2012 had this to say to the cotton-growing states in India — “Cotton farmers are in a deep crisis since shifting to Bt cotton. The spate of farmer suicides in 2011-12 has been particularly severe among Bt cotton farmers.”
The highest acreage of Bt cotton is in Maharashtra and this is also where the highest farmer suicides are. Suicides increased after Bt cotton was introduced — Monsanto’s royalty extraction, and the high costs of seed and chemicals have created a debt trap. According to Government of India data, nearly 75 per cent rural debt is due to purchase inputs. As Monsanto’s profits grow, farmers’ debt grows. It is in this systemic sense that Monsanto’s seeds are seeds of suicide.
The ultimate seeds of suicide is Monsanto’s patented technology to create sterile seeds. (Called “Terminator technology” by the media, sterile seed technology is a type of Gene Use Restriction Technology, GRUT, in which seed produced by a crop will not grow — crops will not produce viable offspring seeds or will produce viable seeds with specific genes switched off.) The Convention on Biological Diversity has banned its use, otherwise Monsanto would be collecting even higher profits from seed.
Monsanto’s talk of “technology” tries to hide its real objectives of ownership and control over seed where genetic engineering is just a means to control seed and the food system through patents and intellectual property rights.
A Monsanto representative admitted that they were “the patient’s diagnostician, and physician all in one” in writing the patents on life-forms, from micro-organisms to plants, in the TRIPS’ agreement of WTO. Stopping farmers from saving seeds and exercising their seed sovereignty was the main objective. Monsanto is now extending its patents to conventionally bred seed, as in the case of broccoli and capsicum, or the low gluten wheat it had pirated from India which we challenged as a biopiracy case in the European Patent office.
That is why we have started Fibres of Freedom in the heart of Monsanto’s Bt cotton/suicide belt in Vidharba. We have created community seed banks with indigenous seeds and helped farmers go organic. No GMO seeds, no debt, no suicides.
Its not a case of supporting a growing population. Farmers are able to make better use of land and also use more land.
...the problem is paying them enough to keep them going!!
I would love to be a free range chicken farmer.. But every word from those in the know..
Says that people would not be willing to pay for it, its not viable..
Although it is easily possible.. Comes down to cost again
Same as deforestation.. The bottom line is cost.. Planting replacement trees aught to be a requirement.
But peoples near sightedness cannot be overcome by my rose tinted glasses.
Can't even get the wife to let me keep rabbits!
Its difficult to see change without introducing tiers into the food chain..
But they already exist.
Population itself is not the problem.. Maybe a reintroduction of cooperatives.. Plantation workers.. Will create jobs and a viable method of low income support..
As well as increase in farming productivity.
Lastly even that is open to abuse, the power of landowners in places like Pakistan Is beyond belief..
Workers literally live, die and breed for the landowners.. Without seeing any of the benefit.
It's clear to anyone who keeps abreast of food tech, that Monsanto is the global player which seeks to control life and and death through their monoploy of seed stock.
As for their "terminator seeds", they claim that these have been banned - but in India, my families own cotton farms use Monsanto seeds which do not give off seeds of their own and so, my family is dependent on buying seed stock from Monsanto - who owns that monopolpy. I spoke to the farmers on our land and they told me that cotton production has halved since Monsanto got the monopoly... fact.
Owning non Monsanto seed stock in India is illegal - very very illegal.
...you all need to find some free range cotton seeds!
No such thing today buddy - free range cotton seeds? you mean organic - and no, these you can't get either... Monsanto OWNS cotton seeds, don't you get it yet bro? lol
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Is the government not aware of the situation?
You really think the bent Indian govt. care? They take bribes to seel their mothers if the money is good enough. They already sold out their "mother india", or was you not aware of that
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Wait I just reread your post..
Maybe rebel farmers will become a thing..
No such thing lol - you're either buying monsanto seeds or you are counting sheep.
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Be good though... Winners don't do drugs.. I'm kidding.
Winners do drugs but they cheat... lol what's your point? price of peas?
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To be fair its all god given, we can only struggle with the things we are given.
And all things have there own time.
Some people are known to eff with DNA and splicing - you think that has to do with God? Really?
Whether it's a cloned sheep or GMO - the idea is the same, it's genetic manipulation, man playing God - and it is wrong. No matter how one tries to justify it..
Sister herbs argument is that the worlds crop peoduction cannot support humanity in the modern age, my argument is simple - get rid of monsanto then, their seeds have lowered global crop production by almost 30 % and the wastage is phenomenal.
Like I said, investigate.
Scimi
Let's say you are right. Let's say that lost 30% is recovered. How would you feed 678 trillion people with contemporary world food production plus a recovered 30% loss?
Also on a serious note, how would anybody be able to tell the difference from branded cotton and organic?
I think, once it's gone thru a process, it's all the same to wear - essentially, the cotton seeds monsanto monopolized were supposed to yield higher and have higher resistance to pests and fungi - except monsanto failed to deliver on promise and instead, sold terminator seeds illegally... farmers in India are committing suicide at an average of 30 lives a day, that's a staggering figure. It's actually quite concerning that the Indian govt. haven't banned Monsanto seed stock yet. Can't say I'm surprised though - India is a bent country, full of bribes and back handers, where even those who are elected for govern-ship are nowt but gangsters trying to legitimize their existence...
Predicted, in 2050 Indonesia will lost its title as the country with largest number of Muslims. Not because conversion to other religions, but because Indonesia's birth rate is lower than India and Pakistan. So, in 2050 the title of country with the largest numbers of Muslims will be held by non-Muslim country, .... India!. The Muslim country itself, Pakistan, will be in second position.
But I do not mind if Indonesia must lost its title. The challenge for Indonesian Muslims is not how to add the quantity, but how to improve the quality of Indonesian Muslims.
it's the same everywhere bro, Muslims need to improve the quality of their Islam... we're nothing but the scummy froth that floats above the oceans at this point in time.
ah bro MIA, you were probably unaware of the subtle reference in my post to this hadeeth:
Thawdan (RAT) narrated "Allah’s Messenger, peace and blessings be upon him, said, ‘Imminently, there will come a time when the nations gather against you, just as people gather around a feast.’ A man said, ‘Will it be because we are few at that time, O Allah’s Messenger?’ He responded, ‘No, you will be numerous in those times, but you will be as useless as the scum of the sea, and Allah will remove the fear that your enemies used to posses from you from their chests, and He will place al-Wahn in your hearts’, it was said, ‘What is al-Wahn?’, he responded, ‘Love of life, and hatred of death.’” [Ahmad, Abu Dawud]
Let's examine this hadeeth:
1) imminently, there will come a time when the nations gather against you, just as people gather around a feast...
PIC: United Nations Assembly deciding the fate of Syria. Just one example out of hundreds.
2: No, you will be numerous at those times but will be as useless as the scum of the sea... today we are exactly that. We don't have a khalipha, nor do we have leaders in our Islamic nations whom we can trust, neither do we have any sort of sens of community when we are segregated into landmasses with physically defined borders - despite the fact that in Islam, there is no idea of nations but one collective Ummah. Strange times eh? Stranger times will return us back to the genesis of Islamic teachings soon in sha Allah.
3:and Allah will remove the fear that your enemies used to posses from you from their chests, and He will place al-Wahn in your hearts’, it was said, ‘What is al-Wahn?’, he responded, ‘Love of life, and hatred of death
Pretty much self explanatory... just take a look at our collective state.
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