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    There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal... (OP)


    ... I wonder what is going on?
    Maybe there could be a collective positive thread?

    Just to start it off:

    4:29
    SAHIH INTERNATIONAL

    .... And do not kill yourselves [or one another]. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful.

    2:195

    SAHIH INTERNATIONAL

    And spend in the way of Allah and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, Allah loves the doers of good.

    Please add some more, if it may help some of the ones that are feeling low

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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

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    the root of the problem in our society today stems from the inability and weaknesses of men.
    weak and narrow scholarship,weak and uneducated men,and education does not mean degrees and a,levels ..b.s.c.,or even alim course etc
    failure to adapt,to be ever improving and learning
    lack of compassion and empathy and much more
    we are in a mess because few real men are around now.
    we have arrogant men ,insensitive men,proud men
    and men just involved in power struggles,while our society and families fall apart


    that is why my blog is strongly worded and straight to the point



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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED PATEL View Post
    the root of the problem in our society today stems from the inability and weaknesses of men.
    weak and narrow scholarship,weak and uneducated men,and education does not mean degrees and a,levels ..b.s.c.,or even alim course etc
    failure to adapt,to be ever improving and learning
    lack of compassion and empathy and much more
    we are in a mess because few real men are around now.
    we have arrogant men ,insensitive men,proud men
    and men just involved in power struggles,while our society and families fall apart

    that is why my blog is strongly worded and straight to the point

    http://ahmedpateldewsbury.blogspot.co.uk/
    We don't need men bashing here, stop being a man hating feminist. That is not the root cause of the problem. The root problem here is the lack of islamic education and upbringing. Children are left to be raised by schools and friends outside the house and tv and games at home. The parents have neglected their islamic duty of teaching the kids their religion. When you have cultural parents who hardly practice Islam then how can they teach their own kids. When you don't have islam practice in your homes, then it becomes a home of the shayateen. Prophet () said pray in yours (and not just at the masjid) so it does not become a graveyard.

    The cry for help we are seeing is from people who were not raised on Islam and were not taught the importance of Islam, so they were left on their own to deal with life problems. Many of these anxiety, depression and other similar issues stem from mental stress and not something that has to be fixed by medicine. These are diseases of the mind that the shaytan can inflict and sticking to the deen provides protection from such ailments. How many people do you know in the Muslim world suffering from such issues? While the west is riddled with it, there rarely any case in the Muslim world. Now we will probably see a lot because people have moved away from the deen. Those suffering from extreme anxiety disorders and such may need medicine and therapy, but for the majority of the people the solution is returning to the deen.
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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    format_quote Originally Posted by aaj View Post
    We don't need men bashing here, stop being a man hating feminist. That is not the root cause of the problem. The root problem here is the lack of islamic education and upbringing. Children are left to be raised by schools and friends outside the house and tv and games at home. The parents have neglected their islamic duty of teaching the kids their religion. When you have cultural parents who hardly practice Islam then how can they teach their own kids. When you don't have islam practice in your homes, then it becomes a home of the shayateen. Prophet () said pray in yours (and not just at the masjid) so it does not become a graveyard.

    The cry for help we are seeing is from people who were not raised on Islam and were not taught the importance of Islam, so they were left on their own to deal with life problems. Many of these anxiety, depression and other similar issues stem from mental stress and not something that has to be fixed by medicine. These are diseases of the mind that the shaytan can inflict and sticking to the deen provides protection from such ailments. How many people do you know in the Muslim world suffering from such issues? While the west is riddled with it, there rarely any case in the Muslim world. Now we will probably see a lot because people have moved away from the deen. Those suffering from extreme anxiety disorders and such may need medicine and therapy, but for the majority of the people the solution is returning to the deen.
    jazakallah for the reply
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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    format_quote Originally Posted by Roha Shama View Post
    I'm one of them,i'm not exactly wanting to commit suicide,it's just at times i think of cutting myself,i do realize it's haram,that is what's keeping me from actually doing it,but at times i feel like i have no hope and Allah hates me that's why he put this burden on me i have extreme social anxiety and ocd as well,yes i'm also home schooled because of such problems.

    I'm really confused right now,i don't know why this is happening to me and only me?none of my sisters have this nor my brother.
    Sis this could be because you may have been inflicted with the evil eye or blackmagic.
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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    format_quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    ... I wonder what is going on?
    Maybe there could be a collective positive thread?

    Just to start it off:

    4:29
    SAHIH INTERNATIONAL

    .... And do not kill yourselves [or one another]. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful.

    2:195

    SAHIH INTERNATIONAL

    And spend in the way of Allah and do not throw [yourselves] with your [own] hands into destruction [by refraining]. And do good; indeed, Allah loves the doers of good.

    Please add some more, if it may help some of the ones that are feeling low
    It is due to lack of deen and in many cases people are inflicted with the evil eye, black magic and jinn possession. And either they are totally unaware of this or choose to ignore this very fact.
    Another thing I have noticed is many cry for help and then disappear so it makes you think why do they open the thread in the first place if they are not going to return to it.
    Alhumdulilah there are many ways people can reach out for help nowadays this has become a lot easier so I don't think it is necessary to have an emergency telegram.
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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    Study: Youth now have more mental health issues

    By MARTHA IRVINE - January 11, 2010

    (AP) -- A new study has found that five times as many high school and college students are dealing with anxiety and other mental health issues than youth of the same age who were studied in the Great Depression era

    Overall, an average of five times as many students in 2007 surpassed thresholds in one or more mental health categories, compared with those who did so in 1938. A few individual categories increased at an even greater rate - with six times as many scoring high in two areas:

    - "hypomania," a measure of anxiety and unrealistic optimism (from 5 percent of students in 1938 to 31 percent in 2007)

    - and depression (from 1 percent to 6 percent).

    Most current numbers may even be low given all the students taking antidepressants and other psychotropic medications, which help alleviate symptoms the survey asks about.

    The study also showed increases in "psychopathic deviation," which is loosely related to psychopathic behavior in a much milder form and is defined as having trouble with authority and feeling as though the rules don't apply to you. The percentage of young people who scored high in that category increased from 5 percent in 1938 to 24 percent in 2007.

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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    الحمدلله الذي عافني ممن مبتلاهم بها وفضلني على كثير ممن خلق تفضيلا
    There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    Greetings and peace be with you Roha Shama;

    I am so sorry to hear about your struggles in life, but there is always hope, you must never give up hope that Allah loves and cares for you, despite all your misgivings. I guess I am slightly older than you, so I am only 67, and I have constantly battled through life with two words, 'resilience and perseverance'.

    Life just seems to constantly through one problem after another at you, and it seems you just need so much energy to keep battling back with loving kindness. One of my daughters is thirty five, she suffered from epilepsy from about the age of three, and she still regularly has seizures, often without warning. She missed a lot of school due to her condition, she has collapsed in the middle of roads, she is often covered in bruises, she has cracked teeth, and she recently dropped a kettle of boiling water down her legs. Despite all her problems, she is incredibly tough, she tells me that failure is only failure when you give up. I have watched her through life, and there were so many times she could have given up. She has lost many jobs due to her seizures, but she bounces back, she has now settled for being a cleaner in a school, because she has experienced stressful jobs that bring on her seizures.

    I believe she is stronger than her older sister, who went through university, she is a midwife, and also teaches midwifery at the university.

    i feel like i have no hope and Allah hates me
    You may hate yourself, and if you hate yourself, you might think why should Allah like you? But Allah is not the same as you are, he is loving and merciful as talibilm replied to you, and you must trust this to be true.

    I love this prayer.....



    Be Thankful

    Be thankful that you don't already have everything you desire, If you did, what would there be to look forward to?

    Be thankful when you don't know something
    For it gives you the opportunity to learn.

    Be thankful for the difficult times.
    During those times you grow.

    Be thankful for your limitations
    Because they give you opportunities for improvement.

    Be thankful for each new challenge
    Because it will build your strength and character.

    Be thankful for your mistakes
    They will teach you valuable lessons.

    Be thankful when you're tired and weary
    Because it means you've made a difference.

    It is easy to be thankful for the good things.
    A life of rich fulfilment comes to those who are also thankful for the setbacks.

    GRATITUDE can turn a ! negative into a positive.
    Find a way to be thankful for your troubles and they can become your blessings.



    In the spirit of never giving up hope in Allah.

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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    format_quote Originally Posted by samirbrazendale View Post
    Asalaamualaykum:

    It is actually good that these people come out with their problems. Imagine if they didnt how lost they would be !

    Maybe its best you give those posts a skip if you feel its getting you down. These people need help and support which is exactly why they writing about it.

    Absolutely.
    It is great that they talk about it, I guess you misunderstood what I was trying to say.
    I am glad that they speak about their problems.
    I'm just surprised how many forum member are dealing with serious problems and we should try to make sure to help them as we can.
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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    format_quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    Absolutely.
    It is great that they talk about it, I guess you misunderstood what I was trying to say.
    I am glad that they speak about their problems.
    I'm just surprised how many forum member are dealing with serious problems and we should try to make sure to help them as we can.
    See that's the thing Snow. This forum is the only place I had to articulate how I was feeling. Nowhere else.

    I contacted numerous Imams but none got back in touch. It was a bit embarrassing to speak to them face to face so I did it via email and phone but not only one got back in touch with me by which time I'll be honest I had lost all faith. Someone mentioned there being loads of places to speak about their problems as in not on IB. I would love to know what these options are for my future reference.

    Had it not been for a few shining stars on here I don't know where I would have ended up. They are complete strangers and always will be but they went out of their way and made time for me and kept in touch even though I was coming out with some incredible ridiculous things.

    I hope all the people suffering are able to befriend someone on here who will help them see the light at the end of the tunnel and keep marching on towards it.
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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    salaams,as ive said previously,im nearly 50 years old,british born and bred
    i have brought up 4 children now in their late teens and older in very difficult circumstances.
    im available for advice .
    i myself have experienced much in life
    some solutions and my outlook on life and society are on my blog.
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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED PATEL View Post
    salaams,as ive said previously,im nearly 50 years old,british born and bred
    i have brought up 4 children now in their late teens and older in very difficult circumstances.
    im available for advice .
    i myself have experienced much in life
    some solutions and my outlook on life and society are on my blog.
    Thanks for your kind offer. To be honest, I don't think there is much hope for me. I am damaged goods. I try to think positive but unfortunately I am stuck in a rut and I pray that I die soon sometimes.


    My family is a waste of space, the only thing keeping me here is guilt and Mom's sad face which she knows exactly and when to do.


    And the devil does not give up. I was feeling very empowered last week thinking "Islam here I come" but it seems like I am back at square one. He was whispering to me again last night saying "you are stupid and are completely wasting your time following Islam" and I believed him. *sigh and sad face*
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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    format_quote Originally Posted by hisnameiszzz View Post
    Thanks for your kind offer. To be honest, I don't think there is much hope for me. I am damaged goods. I try to think positive but unfortunately I am stuck in a rut and I pray that I die soon sometimes.


    My family is a waste of space, the only thing keeping me here is guilt and Mom's sad face which she knows exactly and when to do.


    And the devil does not give up. I was feeling very empowered last week thinking "Islam here I come" but it seems like I am back at square one. He was whispering to me again last night saying "you are stupid and are completely wasting your time following Islam" and I believed him. *sigh and sad face*
    Here is the way I see it.. Giving up in this dunya is a sure way to earn the displeasure and punishment of Allah. You 100% know you will fail in Akhira if you lose hope and give up. But if you strive to keep overcoming your failures and difficulties, even if you aren't the best Muslim, at least there is still the 1% chance of success in the Akhira, and that is what you should hold on to. 1% hope for Jannah is much beyond that 100% surety of ending up in Jahannam. It doesn't have to be "Islam here I come", you don't have to do everything at once. Just take it by the moment. And hold tight because if you let go of this rope Allah has Mercifully given you, then all hope in the dunya and in Akhira will be lost, and surely you will regret it and it will be too late to come back. You don't have to grasp the rope, just hold on to it with your pinky at least. To be honest, most of us are damaged goods. Allah doesn't ask us to be perfect from the start, actually we are not expected to reach that level of Imaan at all. Allah knows that most of us are weak, and that is why we have so many opportunities in this Deen. You can murder someone and still have a chance for Jannah, versus the one who doesn't murder someone, doesn't commit zina, but goes through life having lost hope in Allah Subhana wa Ta'ala, and having disbelieved in Him, they have no chance for Jannah. Don't fall into this deception of the dunya, and the whispers of shaytan. We have been told countless times that these whispers are lies and deception, and yet we still ignorantly fall into it. Allah has told us that the only Truth in this dunya is His Book, the Qur'an. And he tells us not to lose hope, to repent when we sin, to be patient through the struggles, but we refuse to even listen, SubhanAllah, our Rabb is telling us Himself, listen to Me, obey Me, and you will be successful, and we arrogantly refuse.. Do you know why this dunya is so hard for the believers? It is because Jannah is something we have to work for and be worthy of. Allah roots out the believers from the disbelievers by these tests and trials, and this can only be done by putting us through so many calamities, so many difficulties, and so much anxiety that finally there are only two options. 1. Saying okay, I can get through this because one day I will meet my Lord and have to answer to Him, and I want to be in Jannah with Him. Or 2. Saying I give up. Put me in Jahannam. I don't believe anything can be worse than this dunya, and Allah has left me to fend for myself. We seek refuge in Allah from this mindset. Following Islam will never be a waste of time, because following Islam is the only way to be successful, in this dunya and in Akhira. Allah says that they (the kuffar) are walking on this Earth intoxicated. And by Allah, it is true. It is like walking through a cloud, a fog, and when you go back to Allah and Submit yourself to Him, you will see clearly. By Allah, it is a clarity of this dunya that only the believers can see. So when you face the difficulties in your life, be sure that Allah is testing your belief. So it is up to you if you want to be amongst the believers or not. And don't be sure that one day you will 'come back to Islam'. No. Come back now before Allah puts a veil on your heart, and you will surely be amongst the losers then. And whether you accept it or not, you will stand in front of your Rabb on a Day and you will have to tell Him the reason for your hopelessness in the dunya, our own limbs will testify against us, and no excuse will be accepted from us on that Day. SubhanAllah how terrifying.
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    Re: There are so many people in this forum crying for help/feeling low/suicidal...

    format_quote Originally Posted by hisnameiszzz View Post
    Thanks for your kind offer. To be honest, I don't think there is much hope for me. I am damaged goods. I try to think positive but unfortunately I am stuck in a rut and I pray that I die soon sometimes.

    My family is a waste of space, the only thing keeping me here is guilt and Mom's sad face which she knows exactly and when to do.

    And the devil does not give up. I was feeling very empowered last week thinking "Islam here I come" but it seems like I am back at square one. He was whispering to me again last night saying "you are stupid and are completely wasting your time following Islam" and I believed him. *sigh and sad face*
    Allah says: “Call upon me; I will answer you.” [Sūrah Ghāfir: 60]

    And He says: “Who is it that answers the one in need when he calls out?” [Sūrah al-Naml: 62]

    And He says: “When my servant asks you about me, I am near. I answer the supplications of those who beseech me.” [Sūrah al-Baqarah: 186]

    The Prophet was once asked: “Who are the best people?” He replied: “Those who live long and do the best deeds.” [Sunan al-Tirmidhī]

    He also said: “None of you should ever wish for death. Never pray for it before it comes to you of its own accord. When you die, your deeds come to an end, and a believer’s life is never prolonged except for good.” [Sahīh al-Bukhārī and Sahīh Muslim]

    Life is a blessing which Allah bestows upon the living. It was the Prophet’s habit that when he woke up, he would thank Allah and say: “Praise be to Allah who revived us after causing us to die and to Him is the final gathering.” [Sahīh al-Bukhārī and Sahīh Muslim]


    check this out:

    Islam Teaches Us To Never Lose Hope!
    http://howtobeahappymuslim.com/?p=422
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    Here is the way I see it.. Giving up in this dunya is a sure way to earn the displeasure and punishment of Allah. You 100% know you will fail in Akhira if you lose hope and give up. But if you strive to keep overcoming your failures and difficulties, even if you aren't the best Muslim, at least there is still the 1% chance of success in the Akhira, and that is what you should hold on to. 1% hope for Jannah is much beyond that 100% surety of ending up in Jahannam. It doesn't have to be "Islam here I come", you don't have to do everything at once. Just take it by the moment. And hold tight because if you let go of this rope Allah has Mercifully given you, then all hope in the dunya and in Akhira will be lost, and surely you will regret it and it will be too late to come back. You don't have to grasp the rope, just hold on to it with your pinky at least. To be honest, most of us are damaged goods. Allah doesn't ask us to be perfect from the start, actually we are not expected to reach that level of Imaan at all. Allah knows that most of us are weak, and that is why we have so many opportunities in this Deen. You can murder someone and still have a chance for Jannah, versus the one who doesn't murder someone, doesn't commit zina, but goes through life having lost hope in Allah Subhana wa Ta'ala, and having disbelieved in Him, they have no chance for Jannah. Don't fall into this deception of the dunya, and the whispers of shaytan. We have been told countless times that these whispers are lies and deception, and yet we still ignorantly fall into it. Allah has told us that the only Truth in this dunya is His Book, the Qur'an. And he tells us not to lose hope, to repent when we sin, to be patient through the struggles, but we refuse to even listen, SubhanAllah, our Rabb is telling us Himself, listen to Me, obey Me, and you will be successful, and we arrogantly refuse.. Do you know why this dunya is so hard for the believers? It is because Jannah is something we have to work for and be worthy of. Allah roots out the believers from the disbelievers by these tests and trials, and this can only be done by putting us through so many calamities, so many difficulties, and so much anxiety that finally there are only two options. 1. Saying okay, I can get through this because one day I will meet my Lord and have to answer to Him, and I want to be in Jannah with Him. Or 2. Saying I give up. Put me in Jahannam. I don't believe anything can be worse than this dunya, and Allah has left me to fend for myself. We seek refuge in Allah from this mindset. Following Islam will never be a waste of time, because following Islam is the only way to be successful, in this dunya and in Akhira. Allah says that they (the kuffar) are walking on this Earth intoxicated. And by Allah, it is true. It is like walking through a cloud, a fog, and when you go back to Allah and Submit yourself to Him, you will see clearly. By Allah, it is a clarity of this dunya that only the believers can see. So when you face the difficulties in your life, be sure that Allah is testing your belief. So it is up to you if you want to be amongst the believers or not. And don't be sure that one day you will 'come back to Islam'. No. Come back now before Allah puts a veil on your heart, and you will surely be amongst the losers then. And whether you accept it or not, you will stand in front of your Rabb on a Day and you will have to tell Him the reason for your hopelessness in the dunya, our own limbs will testify against us, and no excuse will be accepted from us on that Day. SubhanAllah how terrifying.

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