I just watched some videos on youtube especially this generation of the "going haywire" feminism. Women who think they can hit their man, or ex-boyfriend or just a guy in general and expect they not gonna hit back.
What i found even more shocking that AMONG Muslim women this whole notion of feminism has sadly become a brainwashed fact. There is NO feminism in Islam, there is fighting for your rights that Allah has dictated for you, which is something completely else and nowhere near feminism. There might be things that overlap, but more than that it isn't. So these Muslim women i am afraid because of their brainwashing that they might also want to "man up" against a man and think they can assault him and being confident enough to be able to win the psychical fight from that man THINKING he doesn't hit back.
However in the past i read i believe a fiqi issue of a scholar (very bad at remembering names), that he stated it is BETTER to forgive somebody in case of a eye for an eye, tooth for an tooth because exact same amount of damage or pain might not be. You could for example do more pain/damage than that individual has done it to you. So i saw some comparison to also not fight back as a man by build is stronger than a woman and may do more damage and harm even though it would be a slap for a slap. On the Day of Judgement this more harm/pain you have caused her, would be reflected back in punishment or losing of good deeds.
However again we come back to feminism brainwashing Muslim women in to thinking to "man up" and intimidate a man by physically assault him and often when they see that their man is not fighting back they keep hitting instead of stopping. Which by human psychology is even very disturbing. When even as a man i hit a guy and i see him not hitting back, i feel by my human nature disgusted for physically hitting a guy and he not hitting back. i feel the bad guy (this is just a example, i am against physically harming somebody. Some people might have no self restraint and because of an insult they "ignite" and start the assault. As to insult there is no justification to psychically harm somebody.
"And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace," Qur'an 25:63
So would any one of you (brothers) hit the woman back if she is one of those brainwashed by those feminists even if she was your own wife? For sister, what do you say about this topic in general?
It could also be that i have understood this subject totally wrong, if so, please do correct me. As so far the amount of brainwashed RIGHT EXTREME Muslim women are on the rise, however among Muslim women there are also those LEFT EXTREME Muslim women that do not stand up for their rights that Allah has given them. The Muslim women that take the middle path have become in the minority.
I feel a bit disgusted by this to such a extent that i as a Muslim man say, better stay unmarried instead of having all those drama's that in the end such women (married to) go to such extend that you as a man might do injustice to them.
It's not brainwashing in my opinion. And I could Say I am a non-muslim on the way to Islam so maybe that will explain the further....
I remember I read a quote from Quran that said something like '' and when you go to bed hit your woman, and if she doesn't fight back stop''. I searched a lot for this meaning and maybe I didn't find the right answer yet. And as I've seen this i not accurate or substracted from Quran.
The Quran says to respect women since they are paradise. To forgive and only teach them good. So let's say the wife gets upset for something...and she slaps you... I think many will agree with me...giving a slap back will only be revenge, ergo doing the same thing. But telling her why it is wrong or considering the fact that she couldn't control herself would be a better idea on how to treat the event.
But honestly I don't think any woman will start frenetically beating her husband. Only if she is mentally ill. At least in my opinion.
So my answer... I think it would be totally wrong to hit a woman back, last and not least because you can't really compare a woman's strenght with a man's strenght.
I'd say that typically men have more body mass and if a women feels the need to harm you there's a simple solution don't hurt her back because it wouldn't be right like even though your within your rights your gonna regret it for multiple reasons so the solution is to restrain her via holding her down don't punch her or anything just restrain her and simply say what has gotten into you and if you carry on with aggression then I will have to divorce you or if it's a sister then snitch or tell the police if adults with no parents or just try to calm her down and ask her what has made her want to become violent towards me and is there a valid reason and can we resolve it
It's not brainwashing in my opinion. And I could Say I am a non-muslim on the way to Islam so maybe that will explain the further....
I remember I read a quote from Quran that said something like '' and when you go to bed hit your woman, and if she doesn't fight back stop''. I searched a lot for this meaning and maybe I didn't find the right answer yet. And as I've seen this i not accurate or substracted from Quran.
The Quran says to respect women since they are paradise. To forgive and only teach them good. So let's say the wife gets upset for something...and she slaps you... I think many will agree with me...giving a slap back will only be revenge, ergo doing the same thing. But telling her why it is wrong or considering the fact that she couldn't control herself would be a better idea on how to treat the event.
But honestly I don't think any woman will start frenetically beating her husband. Only if she is mentally ill. At least in my opinion.
So my answer... I think it would be totally wrong to hit a woman back, last and not least because you can't really compare a woman's strenght with a man's strenght.
It's not brainwashing in my opinion. And I could Say I am a non-muslim on the way to Islam so maybe that will explain the further....
I remember I read a quote from Quran that said something like '' and when you go to bed hit your woman, and if she doesn't fight back stop''. I searched a lot for this meaning and maybe I didn't find the right answer yet. And as I've seen this i not accurate or substracted from Quran.
The Quran says to respect women since they are paradise. To forgive and only teach them good. So let's say the wife gets upset for something...and she slaps you... I think many will agree with me...giving a slap back will only be revenge, ergo doing the same thing. But telling her why it is wrong or considering the fact that she couldn't control herself would be a better idea on how to treat the event.
But honestly I don't think any woman will start frenetically beating her husband. Only if she is mentally ill. At least in my opinion.
So my answer... I think it would be totally wrong to hit a woman back, last and not least because you can't really compare a woman's strenght with a man's strenght.
My opinion is the mentally I'll usually go as far to attempt murder when in it comes to beating up there husbands but just hitting them can be a trait that a women may aquire without being ill I'm pretty sure allah swt calls the trait aggression I actually used to have a similar trait but I wouldn't hit family or anything but me and my friends used to get in physical fights for small things
Sura 4:34 Husbands should take full care of their wives, with [the bounties] God has given to some more than others and with what they spend out of their own money. Righteous wives are devout and guard what God would have them guard in the husbands’ absence. If you fear high-handedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great.
Sura 4:34 Husbands should take full care of their wives, with [the bounties] God has given to some more than others and with what they spend out of their own money. Righteous wives are devout and guard what God would have them guard in the husbands’ absence. If you fear high-handedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great.
As you also have seen, it is something very contradictory as i also see things very contradictory "in Islam". However it is NOT Islam that is contradictory that i find every time, it is my lack of knowledge and understanding.
I will never hit a woman, even if she hit me. This is not even debatable. The only time a woman would be at risk from my fist, is if she is threatening my life or the life of someone else.
Today, my doctor, who I will call “Sandy” did an ultrasound and everything appeared to be fine. “Would you like to know the gender?” Sandy asked. "It's a boy. "
I was in shock, I started crying, weeping at the thought of what I was about to curse the world with. I couldn’t bring another monster into the world. We already have enough enemies as it is.
But I knew what I had to do. My body’s betrayal was no more, I was free. I stand by my decision to abort my baby because it was a male. And I would do it again.
CDC Study: More Men than Women Victims of Partner Abuse
National Study: More Men than Women Victims of Intimate Partner Physical Violence, Psychological Aggression
Over 40% of victims of severe physical violence are men
Bert H. Hoff, J.D. *
SUMMARY:
According to a 2010 national survey by the Centers for Disease Control and Department of Justice, in the last 12 months more men than women were victims of intimate partner physical violence and over 40% of severe physical violence was directed at men. Men were also more often the victim of psychological aggression and control over sexual or reproductive health. Despite this, few services are available to male victims of intimate partner violence.
Today, my doctor, who I will call “Sandy” did an ultrasound and everything appeared to be fine. “Would you like to know the gender?” Sandy asked.
I was in shock, I started crying, weeping at the thought of what I was about to curse the world with. I couldn’t bring another monster into the world. We already have enough enemies as it is.
But I knew what I had to do. My body’s betrayal was no more, I was free. I stand by my decision to abort my baby because it was a male. And I would do it again.
CDC Study: More Men than Women Victims of Partner Abuse
National Study: More Men than Women Victims of Intimate Partner Physical Violence, Psychological Aggression
Over 40% of victims of severe physical violence are men
Bert H. Hoff, J.D. *
SUMMARY:
According to a 2010 national survey by the Centers for Disease Control and Department of Justice, in the last 12 months more men than women were victims of intimate partner physical violence and over 40% of severe physical violence was directed at men. Men were also more often the victim of psychological aggression and control over sexual or reproductive health. Despite this, few services are available to male victims of intimate partner violence.
With each video that i watch, i take another step away from marrying. Not that i am gonna go after women doing haram stuff, but just in general taking step after step away from women. No offense to honest, dedicated and devoted sisters, but you guys are way in the minority i could say especially in these days. This will not change in the future one could say, more likely to be even less of your types.
"It was narrated that 'Abdullah said: "The Messenger of Allah said to us:' O young men, whoever among you can afford it, let him get married, for it is more effective in lowering the gaze and guarding chastity, and whoever can not then he should fast, for it will be a restraint (wija ') for him.' "
Just lower the gaze and fast any day that it is permissible to fast and lower the gaze when outside.
Looking at my life as a single man MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way), although no intimacy, children or love from the spouse in general and many other things. The amount of drama compared to fasting every day that is possible, lowering the gaze and having no intimacy, children or love from the spouse and all the benefits that come with it i could say i am living the life. I know Rasullah(saws) has said that we must marry, but the amount of not suited women outside is unbearable. So for me it more looks like choosing the lesser evil. However for brothers that have found a good sister to marry, my advice is to marry.
A woman will not hit a man if this man did not do something that make him deserve to be beaten, such as committing sexual harassment on this woman, or cheat her.
A woman will not hit a man if this man did not do something that make him deserve to be beaten, such as committing sexual harassment on this woman, or cheat her.
I don't know what world you live in, but that is not always true.
If a woman fights a man, she better be ready to be hit.. eye for eye.. just retaliation.
Allahu alam.
Meaning of Shirk according to The Qur'an
" Worshipping anyone or anything besides Allah " or " distributing anything exclusive to Allah, to anyone or anything else "
Meaning of Tawheed according to The Qur'an Worshipping none but Allah. Affirming whatever is exclusive to Him, Him alone.
A woman will not hit a man if this man did not do something that make him deserve to be beaten, such as committing sexual harassment on this woman, or cheat her.
On this i respectfully disagree with you. There are some crazy women outside just like crazy men. This day and age, the amount of impatience women have risen tremendously and doesn't come near to what the older generation had. In the older generation such crazy women and men were less, but this feminism has made them go haywire. So even if a woman is so furious to strike you, it isn't her right. You as a man are not her slave, just like she is not your slave. Both men and women are slaves of Allah and the only one who has the authority is Allah(swt) in this to punish a woman or a man. In this life He also has given us certain rulings about punishment and in the here after also He gives the punishment.
On this i respectfully disagree with you. There are some crazy women outside just like crazy men. This day and age, the amount of impatience women have risen tremendously and doesn't come near to what the older generation had. In the older generation such crazy women and men were less, but this feminism has made them go haywire. So even if a woman is so furious to strike you, it isn't her right. You as a man are not her slave, just like she is not your slave. Both men and women are slaves of Allah and the only one who has the authority is Allah(swt) in this to punish a woman or a man. In this life He also has given us certain rulings about punishment and in the here after also He gives the punishment.
Situation out there is not as bad as your assumption, and not really same as in comic or situation-comedy. In comics or sit-com indeed, we often see a wife easily hit her husband. But from what I have seen in reality, it happen only if the husband make a big mistake that make the wife very angry, such as uses family saving for betting.
Situation out there is not as bad as your assumption, and not really same as in comic or situation-comedy. In comics or sit-com indeed, we often see a wife easily hit her husband. But from what I have seen in reality, it happen only if the husband make a big mistake that make the wife very angry, such as uses family saving for betting.
I hope that that is the case of whole Indonesia. As my own culture in the Middle East as well as the ones living here in the west sadly men are violent towards their wives, however in the last 10 years or so, divorces has risen also tremendously. I myself live in the west and here, men (western men especially) still stick to "men don't hit women" and this whole brainwashing feminism has made women "man up" and abuse their husbands by all means. Women strangely have become very aggressive. I am not sure if this has to do that they have forgot their place (what i mean by this is that they are physically weaker than men) and start assaulting men.
It is like somebody saying you will make the jump..there is NO WAY you will not make it. You are the man..yes YOU ARE THE MAN. After some time when you have grown a lot of courage and are convinced you make it ..you do it and you fail.
This i have the feeling it has happened the same with women. Equality and there is also the police and women are better than men kind of propaganda. Not to forget they are being treated like angels during their childhood becoming all spoiled and always getting what they want. So if in a relationship this doesn't go as what they wanted to go..they easily do whatever it takes to get what they want.
Last edited by Simple_Person; 03-27-2017 at 04:50 PM.
I was watching this video and after watching it, i decided to READ the comments. I was shocked and that reminded me about the hadith of Rasullah(saws).
Saaiduna Ibn Abbas Radiallahu Anhu narrates that the Prophet of Allah Sallallahu Alahi Wasalam said: “I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful.” It was asked, “Do they disbelieve in Allah?” or are they ungrateful to Allah? He replied, “They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favours and the good done to them. If you have always been good to one of them (your wives) and then she sees something in you, she will say, ‘I have never received any good from you.”
I remember an event that happened few years ago which I involved in it.
There was a little traffic accident between two cars that by a man and by a woman. They stopped in front of my office, and out from the cars. When I approached them I saw the woman revile the man. The man just silent. But suddenly I saw that man raised his hand. Quickly I held his hand and told him. "No, bro!. Don't beat a woman!". I lead him to his car, but that woman still provoked him. He turned back and walked to that woman. I hel him again, but he protest me
"Don't you hear what she say?"
"I hear, I hear. But don't beat a woman, okay?".
I lead him to his car again. But again, that woman provoked him. So I told him "You stay here!". Then I walked to that woman with angry face and my eyes stared at her eyes. She began to look scared. After I close with her I shout "You shut up! ... and go home!!!". She look shocked, and quickly she's gone with her car.
Yeah, no need to hit a woman if only to stop her provocation.
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