If a female humanoid from an other planet accepts Islam , can a Muslim male marry her and if a male humanoid from an other planet accepts Islam can a Muslim human marry her if they are marriageable medically. Do not consider it as a joke ,since I do believe we are very near to find alien life. Even if it is apparently difficult but one must be ready for many things. Do not be like those who considered that No human being ever reached moon and Sun revolves arround earth like Ahmad Rada of Bans Baraili [See his book Fauzul Mibin in which he advocated Geocentic theory]
Why not? lol The question is, why are you certain they would be "humanoids"? Sounds like too much sci fi (big fan here!). You cannot even imagine the types of creations Allah has made. All we do know is that we are the best of his creation, so maybe there are prototypes out there.
As far as finding alien life, we haven't even advanced in space travel. People are wanting to go to mars next, which appears barren and it will take years to go back and forth. The only way to "find" alien life in our lifestime would be to have others visit our planet and that would not be pretty.
Back to your question, marrying an alien could pose a better outcome than marrying an earthling considering our state and all LOL!
I'm not sure how 'humanoid' any alien would be - an intriguing thought is that if we did find life on another planet, would we even recognise it as life or would it be too different to tell? On earth itself the range of creatures is absolutely breath-taking.
By medically I'm assuming you mean if they can have children together. Although I once read that the marriage between a human being and a jinn is not permitted. I'm not too sure about this but wouldn't the same apply to an alien?
There is nothing wrong with thought experiments like this.
Is it likely we'll find alien life any time soon? Probably not.
We may find traces of it when we get to Mars, or maybe even bacteria or archaea somewhere below the surface, but even that possibility is a good ways off.
Just because it isn't likely to happen soon, if at all, doesn't mean it shouldn't/can't be pondered.
As for marriage, if the aliens are sentient, and also end up being biologically compatible with humans, and if they adopt Islam, then hypothetically, I wouldn't see why it would not be acceptable.
Church of Scientology? (before you try and explain what it is, I am well aware). I question the closed mindedness of some Muslims, that's not what Islam is about. The universe is so vast, you'd have to subscribe to the "earth is flat" theory to no realize the possibilities of creation all around you. Allah said that he created Angels, Jinn and Humans, but he never said ONLY (he also created animals, but they are not considered intelligent life form). This could mean that these are the only intelligent creatures we will ever come to know sure, but it doesn't negate life anywhere else in the universe.
The biggest issue when it comes to finding life in other planets is our severely limited space travel. It doesn't seem to be possible in our lifetime as much as some of us would love that.
Church of Scientology? (before you try and explain what it is, I am well aware). I question the closed mindedness of some Muslims, that's not what Islam is about. The universe is so vast, you'd have to subscribe to the "earth is flat" theory to no realize the possibilities of creation all around you. Allah said that he created Angels, Jinn and Humans, but he never said ONLY (he also created animals, but they are not considered intelligent life form). This could mean that these are the only intelligent creatures we will ever come to know sure, but it doesn't negate life anywhere else in the universe.
The biggest issue when it comes to finding life in other planets is our severely limited space travel. It doesn't seem to be possible in our lifetime as much as some of us would love that.
If there is going to be contact with an advanced alien race, one we recognize as sentient and alive (I mean, there could be sentient beings of hydrogen in the Sun, and some of the solar flares that come towards the Earth could be coded to tell us hello. Not something I would consider likely, at all, but it's not like we'd [currently] know that is what was going on), odds are they would have to contact us first. With a roughly 14 billion year old universe, with Earth around 4 billion years old, if we've advanced this far since the Earth began, then if there were sentient life further out, they could potentially be billions of years older than us. Of course, that also goes back to the first point I made, if they are that far advanced, would we recognize their attempts to contact us?
That's a good question! Reminds me of the movie "Arrival" (2016) have you seen it ? Our language and understanding of communication could be severely limited for all we know, so what you pose is important to consider.
Also, we do know the universe has been expanding since its creations, so really, we are only becoming more and more isolated as everything spreads further apart and we actually don't know FOR A FACT that the people before us didn't have contact with other life. People assume that the people of Nuh (as) and before were not "as advanced" as we are but there is no real evidence to suggest this. Allah has destroyed many people before without leaving anything behind, so how would we really know?
I know its another subject all together, but I like people to think and come out of their box. It's really sad that some people deny possibilities just because it makes them uncomfortable lol.
If having sex and marrying a animal is haram why would finding something of a different species be halal because imagine if you met a very smart ape that could speak and it shaved its fur and wore clothing would you think it's halal for you to marry that ape if it doesn't have a identical genome to human beings i would assume it's haram allhuallam but I heard there are certain narations that there has been somthing similar to human beings that used to live on different planets but again similar
Some good points, but I would expect no less from someone living on the Starship Enterprise.
Based on what we do know, and how found, there is no evidence to support the idea of a past society as advanced, or more, than us (though they did tend to be more advanced than the primitives a lot of people seem to think all non-modern societies to be), but a you said that doesn't mean it wasn't simply destroyed to the point of zero trace. We'd just likely never know about it.
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That's a good question! Reminds me of the movie "Arrival" (2016) have you seen it ? Our language and understanding of communication could be severely limited for all we know, so what you pose is important to consider.
I have no seen it, though I've heard good things about it.
Also, we do know the universe has been expanding since its creations, so really, we are only becoming more and more isolated as everything spreads further apart and we actually don't know FOR A FACT that the people before us didn't have contact with other life. People assume that the people of Nuh (as) and before were not "as advanced" as we are but there is no real evidence to suggest this. Allah has destroyed many people before without leaving anything behind, so how would we really know?
Yep, given enough time, it currently seems that all star systems will eventually become very isolated from all others, to the point of any sentient beings still alive, if they don't have past knowledge of stars and planets and such, they may have no evidence at all of other objects existing in space.
I know its another subject all together, but I like people to think and come out of their box. It's really sad that some people deny possibilities just because it makes them uncomfortable lol.
They just don't know what they're missing. Out of the box thinking and random "what if?" scenarios often make for some of the best/most fun conversations.
if I'm correct in order for a message to be sent to all worlds then there has to be intilgent life on other worlds so that means there's been more beings then us and that there's been a Quran like ours sent to them but Idk for sure because English translation is different then Arabic
we will never ever discover aliens as aliens are part of the unseen realm!
so you can stop fantasising about marrying aliens sis!
This is not necessarily true though lol. If you've been following the conversation, it may be a bit more clear. Jinn and Angels are of an unseen realm, meaning, they are in another dimension which we cannot reach. "Aliens" (I prefer to just call them, other life forms) are not actually from an unseen realm. You can easily grab a telescope and SEE other planets, stars and nebulae with the naked eye (and magnification). This mean, if we only had proper space travel, we could actually visit these locations and explore other life forms. You can't do that with Jinn and Angels. No amount of magnification will help you see or touch them, plus, they are here, on earth with us lol. It doesn't require travel, but again, another dimension we can't see/experience.
Let her dream about marrying an alien, she isn't hurting anyone or herself. I don't blame her, humans can be so dull and impossible sometimes!
I'm not sure how 'humanoid' any alien would be - an intriguing thought is that if we did find life on another planet, would we even recognise it as life or would it be too different to tell? On earth itself the range of creatures is absolutely breath-taking.
By medically I'm assuming you mean if they can have children together. Although I once read that the marriage between a human being and a jinn is not permitted. I'm not too sure about this but wouldn't the same apply to an alien?
This is not necessarily true though lol. If you've been following the conversation, it may be a bit more clear. Jinn and Angels are of an unseen realm, meaning, they are in another dimension which we cannot reach. "Aliens" (I prefer to just call them, other life forms) are not actually from an unseen realm. You can easily grab a telescope and SEE other planets, stars and nebulae with the naked eye (and magnification). This mean, if we only had proper space travel, we could actually visit these locations. You can't do that with Jinn and Angels. No amount of magnification will help you see or touch them, plus, they are here, on earth with us lol.
Let her dream about marrying an alien, she isn't hurting anyone or herself. I don't blame her, humans can be so dull and impossible sometimes!
i done a post about this before; here u go:
according to Islam other creatures made outside of this earth is part of the 'unseen' just like the angels are
our test in this world is to believe in ALlah without seeing the spiritual world or without seeing anything that makes it too obvious for us that Islam is the truth and thus faith becomes automatic than out of a responsibility, this is why when the sun rises in the west before the last day, no one's testimony of faith will be accepted then as then it will be too obvious and seeing otherworldly creatures that are muslim too* will make it too obvious too!
other creatures are probably ten zillion light years away and man can never get there!
* All creatures prostrate to Allah except some jinn and mankind. Allah, Might and Majesty be to Him, says: "See you not that to Allah prostrates whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth, and the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and the mountains, and the trees, and Ad-Dawâb (moving living creatures, beasts, etc.), and many of mankind . . .?" (Al-Hajj: 18)
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according to Islam other creatures made outside of this earth is part of the 'unseen' just like the angels are
our test in this world is to believe in ALlah without seeing the spiritual world or without seeing anything that makes it too obvious for us that Islam is the truth and thus faith becomes automatic than out of a responsibility, this is why when the sun rises in the west before the last day, no one's testimony of faith will be accepted then as then it will be too obvious and seeing otherworldly creatures that are muslim too* will make it too obvious too!
other creatures are probably ten zillion light years away and man can never get there!
* All creatures prostrate to Allah except some jinn and mankind. Allah, Might and Majesty be to Him, says: "See you not that to Allah prostrates whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth, and the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and the mountains, and the trees, and Ad-Dawâb (moving living creatures, beasts, etc.), and many of mankind . . .?" (Al-Hajj: 18)
Although I agree with the majority of this post,it isn't really relevant to anything being discussed here and this still doesn't make other life forms part of the unseen. If other creatures in other planets decided that we (humans on earth) were part of the unseen simply because they have not reached us, it doesn't make it a fact. We are not part of the unseen and neither are they. It is a matter of distance really, not another dimension which is unseen. This is majorly off topic though, I just really felt compelled to clarify that. There's a big difference between the unseen and the unreachable. Some people never get to travel to the other side of the world. It doesn't make what they haven't seen or experienced, part of the unseen.
The subject we are discussing doesn't negate that all creatures prostrate to Allah. We're talking about the possibility (or reality imo) of other life forms. Just because we cannot reach them doesn't mean they are not there. For many of us, discussing these kind of things brings us closer to Allah and opens us up to exploring our deen. There is nothing wrong with exploring these ideas at all whatsoever and discouraging people from discussion is unnecessary.
By the way, seeing other life forms doesn't necessarily make Islam obvious to anyone, especially not scientists that deny the existence of God in the first place. So
"our test in this world is to believe in ALlah without seeing the spiritual world or without seeing anything that makes it too obvious for us that Islam is the truth and thus faith becomes automatic than out of a responsibility
doesn't really apply. The sun rising from the west is a totally different subject, and they don't need to be jumbled together.
Talking about other life forms has nothing to do with end times really.
We have been given enough information to spark curiosity and explore, Allah created us and he knows how we work. He gave us enough info about Jinn and angels to satisfy most of us with faith and he gave us bits, pieces and clues about other subject, like other life forms for instance. and that's amazing! Alhamdullilah.
Why not? lol The question is, why are you certain they would be "humanoids"? Sounds like too much sci fi (big fan here!). You cannot even imagine the types of creations Allah has made. All we do know is that we are the best of his creation, so maybe there are prototypes out there.
As far as finding alien life, we haven't even advanced in space travel. People are wanting to go to mars next, which appears barren and it will take years to go back and forth. The only way to "find" alien life in our lifestime would be to have others visit our planet and that would not be pretty.
Back to your question, marrying an alien could pose a better outcome than marrying an earthling considering our state and all LOL!
NOT THE BEST Creation, one of the best.
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Yep, what I was implying by my comment (the next post really) was that we were among the best . In our planet and possibly even in our universe (if you want to consider multi universes) we are the most capable intelligent life form. It isn't about intelligence itself (because lets face it, people can choose to be REALLY dumb lol), it is about the potential that the human has. A potential that angels and jinn don't have. I do believe this is explained in the tafsir of the Quran in other words. I'm rusty though.
There's alot to be explored on the subject. Too early for me though, maybe later insha'Allah.
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considering our state and all LOL!
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if I'm correct in order for a message to be sent to all worlds then there has to be intilgent life on other worlds so that means there's been more beings then us and that there's been a Quran like ours sent to them but Idk for sure because English translation is different then Arabic
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