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    Please get advice from experienced people who deal with jinn issues. The following information is just pieced together. and I say what is the point of holding onto information that may benefit someone in this world but won't be any help in the next (that they won't be able to do anything with it).

    What I have seen is that as no one is going to of course check if you thinking it normal for you, as no one would know, people who put up with jinn issues think their thoughts are normal for them, rather than the jinn.

    There is 2 differences:

    1. active thinking
    2. passive thinking

    The problem is that because there are a lot of thoughts that go through a person who is putting up with jinn issues, they think they are thinking too much and are using a lot of their brain-but actually they are in number 2-as they are passive thinking. They can sometimes check this for example:

    1. If you think of a shape-imagine it and follow it's outline like you are tracing it-how difficult is this?? Do not tell the shape to anyone or speak of it, even create shapes that are wonky.
    2. Try counting -not in the normal sense as that would be too easy and fall into passive thinking, add without saying aloud like a letter or a word and add numbers to it like A14, B15, and keep changing the numbers -how long can you do this??

    It has been proven that those even with tourettes syndrome, if they apply their mind to something, they have more control of themselves.

    If you are struggling with jinn issues, just keep it simple and going up -the last 2 surahs, you need to even do them a 100 times each -aim for 10 at a time to build up to sitting there and just doing that.

    When you are praying, you need to just be reading it as you are reading it to Allah and he is listening, DO NOT think about your upsets, like you are not happy-remember this is the ploy of the jinn- you have already had plenty of time to think about your troubles for the rest of your day. When you are reading, just concentrate on one word at a time, like you would do if you are asked to read out a speech/book to someone -this is actively thinking. As if you just let the thoughts carry on, you are not reading properly to Allah.

    There is a lot we don't understand, but the basics are is that our body is also in the jinn world, that is why they can see us and also do black magic, which is just for them just stabbing, attacking people. With your thoughts you are already thinking at your level-but when a jinn interferes, it overtakes your level so what they say is what you think about, and that is why your thoughts run. This is a very basic way of explaining it, like your thoughts a train track, but they are the train and running over you. The people who do black magic are arrogant-remember if they had so much control, why don't they just ask the jinn to rob a bank for example-as even at the time of the Prophet Suleman peace be upon him he had one who carried the throne to his place and even built homes-why don't those who are arrogant get the jinn to build them mansions??

    This is why it is imperative that people teach children basic manners, like sitting still at people's homes, and eat your dinner properly and practise not making a mess- this is because this is where they learn discipline, now you see that there are children, who don't do this, this is why they are an easy target. Also the jinn do pick on those people more who had a bad upbringing, as they are more likely to sit there and put with more problems. There is no harm in learning about psychology -which includes "attachment styles in childhood", as long as you know that Allah is already treating you as if your capable-as he is already testing you in this world. It's not about sitting and just getting emotional support, but about being a functioning adult.

    I would practise active thinking-even if you don't like maths, do basic sums even long division/multiplication -this is what the jinn don't want. Learning something, remembering even another language-apply your brain to something, and just repeat what you have learnt.

    The above might work for some people and help them out.

    Remember Allah, Day of Judgement, Paradise and Hell -which means accepting the Mahdi and the Prophet Jesus peace be upon him when he comes back-here DO NOT be distracted by anything that happens, remember you are already being tested enough-so look after yourselves, concentrate on yourselves to do what you can. People should remember that we're heading for the Major signs of the Day of Judgement and nothing takes over this, especially when the coming of the Dajjal, you help when you can, give to charity when you can-but it is not religious to talk about what is happening -someone said they saw someone in a dream, this muslim used to just talk about what is happening like news-he fell silent and said these things did not help him. Concentrate on yourself, because it is a distraction of the jinn to get you to look at affairs around the world, rather than concentrating on looking after yourself-think if you have been putting up with the jinn-this was oppression in itself.

    Remember Allah and the Day of Judgement much.
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    Re: Jinn and thoughts

    Forgot to add Point 3, then those people who are putting up with jinn possession, don't actually talk to themselves or go over information-they think they do, as they have just thoughts running -output. But if they test it and just say things like, asking themselves questions, like did you like this food? And what did you like about it-when they answer these and any other types of questions like what your ideal colour of room would be etc, they will find this is very different from their running output thoughts.
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    Re: Jinn and thoughts

    As Salam Alaikum

    Subhan Allah

    That was very useful ruqyah and medical advice
    My question would be
    Are jinn the same as Satan....?

    Jazakh Allah Khair.
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    Satan is another name for Iblis-the one who did not bow down to the Prophet Adam peace be upon him. Satan is also another jinn. The jinn were created from a smokeless fire (speculation is what could have been the fuel for this fire to make it smokeless) - but only Allah knows. They were created before Mankind. I have only created threads to highlight the disparity as too many people listen to westernised ways not understanding of issues. If you click on my name and it comes with an option to see all users threads - I have created a few around this area.
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    Re: Jinn and thoughts

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ghost1987 View Post
    As Salam Alaikum

    Subhan Allah

    That was very useful ruqyah and medical advice
    My question would be
    Are jinn the same as Satan....?

    Jazakh Allah Khair.
    No. Jinn are not the same as Satan.

    Satan, Ibliss as sister Sunshine said, is made from smokeless fire and is one of the Jinn.
    However, the jinn have complete societies and with different cultures, religions etc. just like us.

    So there are muslim, christian, jewish, and atheist jinns.
    some of them are good, others are bad.
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    Re: Jinn and thoughts

    format_quote Originally Posted by Sunshineday View Post
    Satan is another name for Iblis-the one who did not bow down to the Prophet Adam peace be upon him. Satan is also another jinn. The jinn were created from a smokeless fire (speculation is what could have been the fuel for this fire to make it smokeless) - but only Allah knows. They were created before Mankind. I have only created threads to highlight the disparity as too many people listen to westernised ways not understanding of issues. If you click on my name and it comes with an option to see all users threads - I have created a few around this area.
    Thanks for sharing. I laughed so hard about "if they had so much control, why don't they just ask the jinn to rob a bank".
    Very good argument.
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