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    Salaam,

    Do you Believe the Freemasons Exist or Not?

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    i apologise, i seem to lack knowledge in this type of group, inshallah i will elarn more about them
    and may allah protect us from shaytaan and guide us all to the straight path
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    I dont think we shoudl be criticising this group of people. instead do da'wah.what good is dicussing them doing??

    do something positive..idle chit chat will get us no-where



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    salam
    mashallah true and well said sis
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    Re: Freemasons ???

    Salaam,

    How do you know your uncle is a freemason, i thought they are not allowed to tell no one...
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    yes and what we can do is try to change our own selves and those around us and spread awareness about islam among people because Allah doesn't change the condition of a people unless they don't change themselves..
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Salaam View Post
    Salaam,

    How do you know your uncle is a freemason, i thought they are not allowed to tell no one...
    two of my uncles are freemasons, one of them asked my dad to join -but he said no.thats how i know

    I duno much about them, but they are not bad people. maybe the organisation is not the best but the individuals shouldnt be badmouthed, because afterall they are human.



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    Dear :brother:s n :sister:s,

    Freemasons are a Jewish organization working for Great Israel. Let us have a look on the picture of Jew as painted by Quran. Hope it clears the things. one thing that it is not to criticise anyone around just to know what is our Allah thinking about all.
    I am trying to locate "The 14 Protocols of Elders of Zion" Any one who can post them here will show the EXACT face of freemasons and other likewise organizations in the context of current situation of the World.

    The Jews in the Qur'an

    Allah's Messenger's wife, Umm Al-Mu'mineen (the Believers' Mother) Safiyyah bint Huyayy - radiallahu 'anha (May Allah be pleased with her) - was the daughter of one of the Jewish leaders of Madinah. After her conversion to Islam, she informed the Prophet - sallallahu alayhi wa sallam (SAWS) - when she had first felt the rays of Islam enter her blessed heart. It was the day that Anas - radiallahu 'anhu (May Allah be pleased with him) - describes as the most radiant day ever came upon al-Madinah - the day Allah's Messenger (SAWS) - entered it.

    All the Ansar (Muslims of Madinah) men, women and children gathered to greet him, cheers of praise to Allah filled the air. Amongst the gathering were two men; as much as the Ansar and Muhaajireen (Imigrants to Madinah) revered the Prophet, they despised him. It was the father of Safiyyah - radiallahu 'anha - and her uncle.

    She was only a youngster as she looked into the darkness and gloom that had enveloped their faces when they returned home that day. Her Jewish uncle 1400 years ago asked, "Is it him? Is it the Prophet that our scriptures speak of?" Huyayy lowered his head and said, "Yes. It is him." "Then what shall we do?" Safiyyah's uncle continued. Huyayy looked into his eyes, "Till the final day we shall be his bitterest enemies!"

    From the very first raka'ah of salat we read the verse in the opening Surah: "Guide us to the straight path - The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked (Your) anger." (Surah al-Fatiha1:7)

    Adiyy ibn Hatim asked Allah's Messenger (SAWS): 'Who it was that evoked Allah's anger?' He said, "It was the Jews." - Tafseer Ibn Katheer

    In the opening verses of Surat Al-Baqarah, Allah invites the Children of Israel to come back - to remember the favor and blessing He bestowed upon them - and to fulfill the promise that they would follow the Prophet when he was sent to them. "O Children of Israel, remember My favor that I bestowed upon you and fulfill My covenant upon you that I will fulfill your convenant (from Me) and fear only Me." (Surah al-Baqarah 2:40)

    Allah saved them of their slavery to Fir'own "Pharaoh", he saved them from sea and drowned Fir'own and his army. Allah selected them to receive food from the sky. Allah sent them Prophet after Prophet from amongst themselves, and sent the Holy Scriptures - the Towrah (Old Testament) and the Injeel (Gospel).

    Allah preferred them over all others at their time. ""...And that I preferred you over the worlds (i.e. people)." ( Surah al-Baqarah 2:47)

    How did they reply to these Blessings of Allah?

    1. They Followed Only What They Wanted to Follow:

    When a Prophet came to them, if what he taught did not appeal to them they either rejected that truth or slit the throat of the Prophet and followed what was appealing to them. "We had already taken the covenant of the Children of Israel and had sent to them Messengers. Whenever there came to them a Messenger with what their souls did not desire, groups (of the Messengers) they denied and another party they killed." (Al Maa'idah 5:70)

    We must remember here that this is the Lord of the Universe telling us - in verses to be read till the final day - the deepest secrets that lie in the pits of Judaism. "And who is more truthful than Allah in statement?" (Al Nisaa' 4:87)

    2. They Changed the Words of Allah:

    There were groups of Jews that would change the words of Allah - adding something here, deleting there - to pound the truth and keep the flock in servitude to what they desired. "And indeed, there is among them a party who alters the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say: 'This is from Allah,' but it is not from Allah. And they speak untruth about Allah while they know." ('Aal-Imran 3:78)

    3. Their claim that they are the beloved children of God:

    Ibn Abbas narrates: Nu'maan ibn Aasaa, Bahr ibn 'Amr and Shaas ibn Adee (3 Jews) came to Allah's Messenger (SAWS). He sat with them and invited them to Allah and warned them of Allah's anger. They replied, 'Why are you trying to scare us O Muhammad? By God, we are the children of God and His beloved ones!' At that the verse was revealed: "And the Jews and the Christians say, 'We are the Children of Allah and His beloved.' Say: 'Then why does He punish you for your sins?' Rather, you are humans from among (all the others) that He created." (Al-Maa'idah 5:18) - Ibn katheer 2/36.

    4. Their Blasphemous Statements:

    There came upon the Jews a time of poverty, so they went to Shaas ibn Qays and questioned him. He said, 'Your Lord is stingy, he never provides.' Allah revealed in the Qur'an: "And the Jews say, 'The hand of Allah is chained.' Chained are their hands and cursed are they for what they say. Rather, both His hands are extended; He spends however He wills.'" (Al-Maa'idah 5:64)

    5. Their Murdering of the Prophets:

    One of the most horrific sins that they performed was the slaughtering of their Prophets. This was one of the major reasons they were struck with humiliation. "And they were covered with humiliation and poverty and returned with anger from Allah (upon them). That was because they (repeatedly) disbelieved in the signs of Allah and killed the Prophets without right. That was because they disobeyed and were (habitually) transgressing." (Baqarah 2:61)

    Not only did they try to kill their Prophets, but they attempted to assassinate the Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) - himself. Allah's Messenger (SAWS) went with some Companions to meet with the Jews of Banu Nadheer. While he waited for them at the side of a building, they climbed the roof with a boulder to crush down upon the head of Allah's Messenger (SAWS). Jibreel (Gabriel) warned him of their plan. He stood up without saying anything, left for Madinah and came back with an army. This was the cause of Banu Nadheer's expulsion from Madinah.

    The list goes on
    - They did not command the good or forbid the evil,
    - they did not accept the ruling of what Allah revealed upon them,
    - they disbelieved their book,
    - they received food from the heavens but rejected it,
    - they challenged their Prophet (Moses) to show them Allah in this life,
    - they took Angel Jibreel (Gabriel) as their sworn enemy,
    - they took the graves of their Prophets as symbols of worship ...
    and the list goes on and on in the Qur'an and Sunnah.

    Muslims Should Avoid the Wrong Ways of the Jews:

    There are some verses in the Qur'an that spoke about those that do not judge by what Allah has decreed as transgressors. Some students of Ibn Abbas - radiallahu 'anhu - asked him, "Were these not revealed for the Jews and Christians?" He said, "Subhan Allah! Are all the glad tidings in the Qur'an for us and all the admonitions for them? If we do what they did, our end will be their end."

    Allah's Messenger (SAWS) said, ""You will follow the wrong ways, of your predecessors so completely and literally that if they should go into the hole of a lizard, you too will go there." We said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Do you mean the Jews and the Christians?' He replied, "Whom else?" (Bukhari)

    In conclusion, a fundamental part of our religion is Al-Wala' and Al-Bara' (wala' - love and loyalty / Bara' hatred and disownment). It would be profitable for us to reflect on the implementation of our Wala' and Bara' in regards to the Jews.

    Firstly: We should not take them as our close allies:

    Allah commands us in the Qur'an: "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is one of them. Indeed Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people." (Ma'idah 5:51)

    Secondly: We should not Imitate them:

    The forbiddance of imitating the Jews and the Christians applies to those things that have become icons of their customs and falsehood. So for example, if someone wore a white collar on his neck, everyone would assume he was Christian. This is because the white collar has become a symbol of theirs. The ruling is more general than just clothes. Allah's Messenger (SAWS) said: "Act differently than the Jews." (Abu Dawood)

    Thirdly: A Muslimah (Muslim woman) may never marry a Jewish or Christian man that remains on his beliefs:

    Allah declares in the Qur'an: "They are not (i.e. the Muslim women) lawful wives for them, nor are they lawful (husbands) for them." (Mumtahinah 60:10)

    Is all this a death sentence on the Jews?

    Nay, Allah's infinite Mercy has left the gate open for anyone who wishes to come back to Him. "And if only the People of the Scripture had believed and feared Allah, We would have removed from them their misdeeds and admitted them to joyful Gardens." (Ma'idah 5:65)

    O Allah guide us to the straight path - the path of those who You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked (Your) anger, nor of those that went astray.


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    رَبَّنَا اغْفِرْ لَنَا وَلِإِخْوَانِنَا الَّذِينَ سَبَقُونَا بِالْإِيمَانِ وَلَا تَجْعَلْ فِي قُلُوبِنَا غِلًّا لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا رَبَّنَا إِنَّكَ رَؤُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ



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    Re: Freemasons ???

    format_quote Originally Posted by Rabi'ya View Post
    but they are not bad people. maybe the organisation is not the best but the individuals shouldnt be badmouthed, because afterall they are human.
    Rabi'ya:rose:

    On the day of judgment, every one will be raisen with his Jamiat (party/class/association).
    people may not be bad but the intentions of the organization are indeed not good.
    they are follwoing a total anti islam agenda, basically.
    n these ppl are helping them in their capacities, and adding their share........:grumbling
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    رَبَّنَا اغْفِرْ لَنَا وَلِإِخْوَانِنَا الَّذِينَ سَبَقُونَا بِالْإِيمَانِ وَلَا تَجْعَلْ فِي قُلُوبِنَا غِلًّا لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا رَبَّنَا إِنَّكَ رَؤُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ



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    Salam
    These masons try to cover up, making things from school lessons to movies seem normal. But they also have a book for those who reach a high intelect, to show them that masonry is not to be messed around with. Now when people see this book they find out the truth but the feel enclosed and can't do anything. The masons try to stop people on both ends. The only thing that can take you out of the masonry grasp is Islam.
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    Wooah kool thread

    Freemasons do exist they have private meetings and special way to shake hands etc....they also plan to take over the world lol

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    Salam
    Its sad you know. If they know that when you come to Allah (Islam) You can have anything in this world very easily. But they insist to take the long way.
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    Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and beliefs....

    To you be my religion and to you be yours..

    They are misguided - the best thing we can do is give da'wah and make duaa



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    Re: Freemasons ???

    format_quote Originally Posted by Rabi'ya View Post
    Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and beliefs....

    To you be my religion and to you be yours..

    They are misguided - the best thing we can do is give da'wah and make duaa



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    To ME be my religion and to you be yours..
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    رَبَّنَا اغْفِرْ لَنَا وَلِإِخْوَانِنَا الَّذِينَ سَبَقُونَا بِالْإِيمَانِ وَلَا تَجْعَلْ فِي قُلُوبِنَا غِلًّا لِّلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا رَبَّنَا إِنَّكَ رَؤُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ



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    Salam
    No. Masons know about Islam. They are human shaytan. Look at the description of shaytan in the Quran. They fall in that description.
    They know the truth. But its ignorance.
    Don't let them fool you. Yes give Da'waa, but don't go out to Masony, remember that they are paving the way for the dajal. But that does not mean if you suspect someone to be one then you don't, You should give da'wa everytime of your life.
    With out going into the details Da'waa' can be through your actions, emotion control,etc.
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    They know the truth. But its ignorance
    as far as i know my uncles dont know about islam. they see me and they are confused. u can tell when someone is genuinely confused. how do u know they are paving the way for the dajjal. i am no expert but surely many groups of people fall into the description of the shaitaan?

    To you be your religion, and to me be mine(SurahAl-Kafirun 109:6)
    sorry i thought i put the reference :s my bad



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    Some of the presidents of The United States were Free masons. That tells you that it really does exist!That is why they have this symbol on the back of the U.S dollar that is a symbolism to free masonary. If you look at the image below you will notice a pyramid with the one eye inside of it. Since George Washington was the President and his picture was on the dollar bill..all of which has free masonry symbols on the back, evidently he was a free masonry aswell. You just never know who they are, until they verbally say so.



    isnt the symbol of freemason the one eye? which is the sign of dajjal? please correct me if im wrong

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    Some of the other presidents of the United States were free Masons aswell.


    http://www.bessel.org/presmas.htm

    1 George Washington (Pres. 1789-1797)(MM 1753)
    2 James Monroe (Pres. 1817-1825)(MM 1776)
    3 Andrew Jackson (1829-1837)(MM 1800?)(Fedl #1 1830)
    4 James K. Polk (Pres. 1845-1849)(MM 1820)
    5 James Buchanan (Pres. 1857-1861)(MM 1817)
    6 Andrew Johnson (Pres. 1865-1869)(MM 1851)
    7 James A. Garfield (Pres. 1881)(MM 1864)
    8 William McKinley (Pres. 1897-1901)(MM 1865)
    9 Theodore Roosevelt (Pres. 1901-1909)(MM 1901)
    10 William H. Taft (Pres. 1909-1913)(MM 1901)
    11 Warren G. Harding (Pres. 1921-1923)(MM 1920)
    12 Franklin D. Roosevelt (Pres. 1933-1945)(MM 1911)
    13 Harry S. Truman (Pres. 1945-1953)(MM 1909)
    14 Gerald R. Ford (Pres. 1974-1977)(MM 1951)
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    Salam
    No. All the US presidents were Masons. As for Halima you are correct. But the Masons do know about Islam. As the prophets's(PBUH) uncle. He agreed with Abu-Sufyan that the prophet(PBUH) was a prophet indeed, but he did not become Muslim because he valued his status and wealth more. The Masons are in a similar position.
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    check this mini documentary about the free Mansons....

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=Free+Masons
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Hajar View Post
    check this mini documentary about the free Mansons....

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    Jazka'Allah khair fo sharin this
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    format_quote Originally Posted by anis_z24 View Post
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    No. All the US presidents were Masons. As for Halima you are correct. But the Masons do know about Islam. As the prophets's(PBUH) uncle. He agreed with Abu-Sufyan that the prophet(PBUH) was a prophet indeed, but he did not become Muslim because he valued his status and wealth more. The Masons are in a similar position.
    All of the presidents were free masons? wow I didn't know that. Then how come there are some presidents that are labled as free masons and some arent? Like if you look back on the resources it only pointed some out. It didn't even point out that current George W.Bush as a free mason. Although, have you noticed that alot of the presidents have the same name? Like George Washington, George Bush, ect ;etc ;etc?
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