Freemasons ???

Salam
Masons portray an image which they are not. They make it seem like they are a normal social club, which they are not. If you know, they have levels, even though someone that is Masonic might seem ok. That means that they are around the lower levels.
Again, they are not what they seem. Many many people went in, saw the truth and caould not leave.
If you hear of strange deaths. Deaths such as princes Diana's death.
That means that you can expect the masons to be behind it.

Salam
I said that I don't have a final say. And you are correct.
sorry for any misunderstanding. I must try to explain myself more.

format_quote Originally Posted by Nasir_bhai

we should not judge what the threemasons are. we do not now enough to say what or who they are. it is like when the kaffir judge us but do not the truth about islam. we are basically doing what they are doing, which is wrong and that is judging.
we have all been brought up thinking that they are evil and devil worshippers but yet we have not met one so we cannot say that. as sister Rabi'ya had stated the best thing to do is dawah. this is what i think anyway.

Allah talah knows best

Salam
Yes you do Da'waa, but you must be aware. Just be aware. Do not go looking for them, but if you meet one, why not. You never know Allah can guide that person through your hands.

Please also see the following thread:

http://www.islamicboard.com/world-af...g-one-eye.html

For image do google search.

Regarding the date, I can only quote what I have read and been told. The date I have been given was that of 1776. As far as I am aware there has been no proof of any illuminati pre this date. Whether they were around before this is no for me to answer. A lot of conspirancies are around regarding the imagery of the illuminati, such as pyramids, pentacle, eye of ra. Take a dollar bill and look at the pyramid! leaving alot of people to believe that the illuminati are still in control of the world finances, governments etc. Whether they are or not is for us to find out.

Assalamo-alaikum-warahmatullahi-wabrakatu

Here is an interesting fatwa I came accross on Islam Online. (Apologies if already been posted).

Can a Muslim be a freemason?
3/10/2004 8:05:00 AM GMT

As-salamu `alaykum. Although I have heard and read that Muslims should not join Freemasonry, I need to ask what happens if we do. I became a Freemason six years ago. It has not interfered with my religious practices, nor has it made me perform any blasphemous acts. All it has done for me is reinforce in me the strict morals and ethics that Islam has forever taught me.

Am I wrong to be a member of this organization? If so, could you please explain to me why? Your answer will be extremely appreciated by many confused fellow Muslims who have either joined me or are contemplating the move. Thank you!


Answer
Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.



Dear questioner! Thank you very much for your good question that reflects a true search for knowledge. May Allah increase you in knowledge and grant you success in this world and in the afterlife.



In the first place, we would like to note that a Muslim should show loyalty only to Allah, his Creator and Sole Protector. His first priority should be his religion and the interests of his faith, since it is that faith only that makes his life brighter. A Muslim should never affiliate himself with any organization that works for the destruction of his religion; rather, he should regard the Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as sources of his conduct.



No other thing deserves more trust than these two. Almighty Allah says: "O ye who believe, obey Allah and the Messenger when He calleth you to that which quickeneth you, and know that Allah cometh in between the man and his own heart, and that He it is unto Whom ye will be gathered." (Al-Anfal: 24)



Coming to the question in point, the prominent Muslim scholar Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a Senior Lecturer and Islamic Scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, answers:



"As far as I know, Freemasonry is a secret organization whose beliefs and practices are totally kept confidential except from those who are initiated into it. They have levels of secrets which are not divulged to those who are at lower levels. A Muslim should never fall prey or give allegiance to something which cannot be scrutinized by the firm criteria of the Qur’an and the Sunnah. Whoever joins Freemasonry is like a person who writes a blank check; by doing so he agrees to give allegiance blindly to an authority to comply with their wishes no matter what they are.



No Muslim can surrender his will unconditionally to anyone but Allah. If anyone has done so, he is guilty of the most blatant violation namely shirk (associating partners with Allah). Allah says: “Do they have partners beside Allah who shall prescribe for them rituals that Allah has not sanctioned.” (Ash-Shura: 21)"



Delving into the core of Freemasonry and its nature, we would like also to cite the following:


"The Society of Freemasons is a secret organization with aims which are never officially declared in public. It engulfs itself with a thick curtain of secrecy to the extent that any new recruit gives a most solemn oath not to reveal its secrets. He is made fully aware that he reveals these secrets at peril to his life. Admission to the society is not open to everyone. In fact, the Society of Freemasons recruits its members after careful study of their characters and positions. It also tries hard to enlist in its membership kings, presidents, ministers, leading politicians and highly influential people. Such people are given honorary membership that keeps them at the periphery of the society, which means that they do not share in its decision making and they are not let into its secrets. Only those who are prepared to work with dedication for the aims of the society are made aware of these secrets. This, too, after they have passed certain tests and been promoted from one degree to another in the hierarchy of the society.


What attracts people to join the Freemasonry is the assurance of mutual help which its members pledge themselves to give on joining. A Freemason is expected to give unlimited support to other members of the society. Members have certain signs by which they come to know each other, such as the way they shake hands with other people and certain additions in their signatures on letters, etc. In countries where Freemasonry is well established, this can be of great advantage to any member who shows dedication to the cause.


A number of people have written about the secret aims of the Society of Freemasons. These were largely ex-members who left the society after finding that they could not reconcile themselves to its aims and purposes. The majority of these cases were in countries where the society was not able to promote itself well, which, in turn, limited its membership. This forced it to promote certain members to higher degrees, which enabled them to know more of the secrets of the society. Through such people we know that the society has a very strict hierarchy that keeps members at a low degree until they have passed a very severe test of loyalty and dedication. We also know that the society serves the aims of world Jewry and derives its name from that particular purpose. A “mason” is a builder, and the Society of Freemasons aims to rebuild the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem after destroying Al-Aqsa Mosque because the Jews allege that the mosque has been built on the site of the destroyed temple.


Everything that furthers the interest of the Jews and promotes their position in the world is undertaken by the society. The cover of absolute secrecy and its strict hierarchy enables it to make use of the positions and influence of its non-Jewish members to serve the Jewish cause. We have to understand that many of its members work for the society trusting that they only serve the causes of liberty, equality and justice. They remain unaware that they simply serve the cause of giving the Jews supremacy in world affairs. Freemasonry has over the years earned itself a number of enemies, most notably the Catholic Church.


In view of all this, there is no doubt that if a Muslim joins the Society of Freemasons, he contravenes the teachings of Islam. The aims, policy and practices of this society are against the principles of Islam and violate its laws. For example, Islam believes in maintaining justice among all people, regardless of race, color, family, position or creed. A Muslim must be fair to all people. Islam forbids favoritism, nepotism and discrimination on any basis. Freemasons favor one another on the basis of membership of their society.


Islam respects other religions. Freemasonry deceives its members into thinking that they further the cause of a better humanity when they are actually furthering the interests of those who seek to give the Jews supremacy over all peoples of the world. Islam is the final message from Allah to man. It is the religion that supercedes all past divine messages, including Judaism.


Freemasonry seeks to destroy Al-Aqsa Mosque in order to rebuild the Temple of Solomon in its place. How can a Muslim, then, join such a society?


Islam believes in open methods and declared aims and orders its followers to be always truthful and to follow a straight path. Freemasonry shrouds itself in secrecy to cover its wicked practices. If its aims were truly to promote a better humanity, it would have come out into the open and declared its aims and policies. Only evil cloaks itself in secrecy because it wants to hide its repugnant nature."



Allah Almighty knows best.

Ok so they exist, big deal, WHO CARES?

They're not affecting nobody!!

format_quote Originally Posted by Rabi'ya

please do not speculate. You should not say things unless you can prove things.

Please provide your evidence about what you know about freemasonry before you go accusing people.



Rabi'ya:rose:

Salam
The death of princes Diana, was because she had wealth. And she was helping poor African countries.
Now what happens when someone helps poor people. This creates a threat.etc.

format_quote Originally Posted by Iqram

Ok so they exist, big deal, WHO CARES?

They're not affecting nobody!!

Salam
You are Muslim, the only people that can stand up to Masons are Muslims.

Assalamo-alaikum-warahmatullahi-wabrakatu

Ok so they exist, big deal, WHO CARES?

They're not affecting nobody!!

Gotta diasagree with that or anyone else who says similair thing. If someone is plotting against Islam you should know about it so that you can recognise such a sect/group and save yourself from its fitnah.

Its bad enough with shaytan always trying to trip us up and then you get groups like this playing with the minds of the ummah. We need to plan ahead so that our children and the future ummah are not affected by their plans.

Masalaam
Br Abdullah

But the thing is, why don't we just concentrate on being muslims.

JUST BE MUSLIMS, FI SABILLILAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We create this fitnah for no reason, if we don't get involved with them, they wont do anything to you.

I have never come in contact or met a freemason, so i don't really know what's going on with us muslims, why can't we just be Muslims and act like them instead of all the rubbish, this is what makes us think of the bad things in life.

Please I repeat again JUST BE MUSLIMS AND ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING ALL THE TIME, IF YOU DO THE RIGHT THING NOTHING WILL EVER GO WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

format_quote Originally Posted by Salaam

Salaam,

He is probably in a group to cover up the Original group, they will not let anyone join the Secret Society. Only highly intellectual people or people with power will be asked to join…

That's not true. I know people who are Freemasons.And they aren't Jews either. They mainly hangout and drink profusely. Many are average to lower intelligence if the truth be known. They have asked me to join. I don't have time to sit around with a bunch of old dudes. I got my own gig going.

Salaam

The Freemasons are the forerunners for 'Dijal' they have their infulences everywhere just look at T.V their logo the 'all seeing eye' already trying to adapt one of allah's attributes to their orginisation, big brother logo eye, the back of the u.s. dollar theirs an eye, cbs theirs an eye.

format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth

Salaam

The Freemasons are the forerunners for 'Dijal' they have their infulences everywhere just look at T.V their logo the 'all seeing eye' already trying to adapt one of allah's attributes to their orginisation, big brother logo eye, the back of the u.s. dollar theirs an eye, cbs theirs an eye.

You are confusing the Freemasons with the Illumini.

ok, so what?

If they come to us we beat them down with some sort of Spiritual force against them from the Quraan or something, it's not something to make such a big deal about, they should be destroyed by the Quraan, it will be a bit like exorcism of Jinns.