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    I would like to start this thread with an incident that happened to me recently. All this is 100% true.
    One morning (or late at night) I woke up after I felt there was a disturbance in my room (not sure what). I opened my eyes and it was soon obvious to me that I could not move. I tried as hard as I can to get up but felt like there was a strong force pushing on my chest and into my bed. I desperately tried calling for help but I could not speak. My mouth was open but there was no sound coming out. This happened for about 30 seconds. After that something very scary happened. I started to shake violently on my bed and the bed was shaking too. I can remember thinking to myself at the time "I cant believe it, I am actually being possessed by a Jinn". The shaking lasted for about 20 seconds. When it finally stopped I could turn around in my bed. I still felt that there was a weight on my body but less than before. I did not dare get out of my bed at the time and quickly went back to sleep.
    For days I did not speak of the incident to anyone. I did not want to think about it fearing that it may happen again if I do.
    Then one day I was watching a program on The Discovery Channel. It was about Aliens (which I find very interesting). They were mentioning alien encounters, then asking skeptics and believers to comment on the incidents. One of the encounters was the Alien abductions. I heard what the believers had to say, and then came the skeptics. They talked about how these abductions can be explained by a phenomenon called "Sleep Paralysis". They proceeded to explain what sleep paralysis was and I could not believe how similar their encounters were to mine. Everything from the pressure on my chest to not being able to move or speak. I will give an experts explanation of Sleep paralysis at the end of this thread.
    Here is what I found most interesting about this; sleep paralysis existed in all parts of the world. However, there is one major difference about what each culture experiences. Each experienced what "their" culture feared during episodes of sleep paralysis. For example for;
    The U.S: it was Alien abductions. There are hundreds of thousands (if not millions according to some) of reports of Alien abductions in the U.S, yet there are virtually none in Mexico.
    Japanese: The Haunted girl.
    English: Old Hag. (An Old witch like woman standing next to your bed)
    Muslims: Jinn possessions!
    There are more examples but these are the ones I could think of.
    I was so relieved to know that it had nothing to do with Jinn after all. I then went and told some of my friends and I was completely surprised to know that many of them also had similar experiences. It seems like it is more common than I thought but people just dont talk about it. Now here I am telling you about my experience. Did anyone have a similar experience?
    Make no mistake I am not saying that it is not possible for a Jinn to possess someone (I actually dont know if it is), I am just saying that it is more than likely that it wasnt the case during that night. Which also brings me to another question, does anyone know of any ahadith that speak of Jinn possession? I have not yet come across any.
    Anyway I would like to know what anyone thinks about this. Here is Sleep Paralysis explained in more detail:

    "Sleep Paralysis

    Definition: Sleep paralysis (SP) is transient state of involuntary immobility occurring immediately prior to falling asleep or upon wakening and is classified as a parasomnia associated with REM (rapid eye movement) sleep.

    Parasomnia is defined as any disruptive sleep event.

    Indications and Experiences Associated With SP

    -SP is fairly common; many people report at least one incidence that is consistent with the general description of SP.
    -There are many different experiences associated with this disorder.
    -The individual is obviously paralyzed hence the name. However, many people are able to open their eyes and thus can later describe their experience visually as well as physically.
    -Those who suffer with it most commonly describe hypnagogic (discussed below) and hypnopompic hallucinations. Hypnopompic describes hallucinations upon awakening.
    There are three different classes of the hallucinations. Historically, these factors describe many common experiences that were consider of supernatural or paranormal.

    -One factor is called the Intruder, where there is a sensed presence, and auditory and visual hallucinations.
    (Many people throughout time have described the Old Hag that is a shadowy hallucination and an experience of sensed presence. )
    -The second is labeled the Incubus, and consists of pressure on the chest, difficulty breathing, and pain.
    (Some people have described a demon choking or suffocating them or possibly sitting on their chest. This phenomenon is also thought to explain possession and alien abduction.)
    -The third factor is Unusual Bodily Experiences where the individual has sensations of floating or flying, out-of-body experiences, and feelings of bliss."

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    the thing is i am pearson always seeking for naswers i believe there is an answer for everything, alot of times when it happens i can move my hand so i try to pull myself up, a month would go by then out of nothing i feel the presence in my room sometimes i would be praying when i feel it and thats how i know its back nothing to do with stress also it dosent mater tired or not, scared or not.

    and one site said "Recurrent kaboos. This kind of kaboos indicates that a person has been harmed by evil spirits." End quote.

    any thoughts?

    this is the site.

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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    one more thing sometimes i would wake up with bruises my sister would notice and tell me and like i said since i was young.
    so tell me if thats normal im seeking for an answer what to do??
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    format_quote Originally Posted by agmn View Post
    one more thing sometimes i would wake up with bruises my sister would notice and tell me and like i said since i was young.
    so tell me if thats normal im seeking for an answer what to do??
    it may be nocturnal epilepsy, or more formally Autosomal dominant nocturnal frontal lobe epilepsy
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    ya i dont think so im very healthy al hamdulilah
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    ...
    well obviously there is something wrong with you!
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    format_quote Originally Posted by agmn View Post
    one more thing sometimes i would wake up with bruises my sister would notice and tell me and like i said since i was young.
    so tell me if thats normal im seeking for an answer what to do??
    When I was 13 or so I used to wake up with scratches on my back and my my t shirt folded on other side of room, never remembered anything but have put it down to the effects of anxiety due to starting school.
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    Same thing happened to me, and I believe you should read Aiyat ul quarsi
    The second you read it you will feel better & everything will be fine.
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    gulp..... nightmare, eyes open, cant move, fear, no voice. no movement, pressure on certain part of body... normally leg... or weight on end of bed...

    this has happened to me a few years back.... 3 times... while i was trying to convert to islam.... "transition phase" of conversion.....

    hasnt happened in ages.. allhamdilliah.

    still get scared occasionally though.

    thing things are around me and stuff... watchinf me whilst i make wudu, or at sleepy time....

    i had a vision last week.

    gulp

    in between sleep and wakefullness....
    i zoned out.... started daydreaming about living on a farm, i walked into the power generator room and it was full of static... i walked to the middle of the room and i could feel the static.loads of static... i looked to my right and a white angel/jinn thing moved towards me, i fell and snapped out of my trance.... my hairs were all standing on end and i could feel the static...

    scaredy cat. big time.
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    actually the sleep paralysis is extremely rare but a normal occurrence and not jin posession. , i read about it a while ago in my psychology book. when you go to sleep and hit REM sleep you mind disconnects from your body thus paralyzing it. most people dont wake up when they have hit REM sleep but it has happened and they experience paralysis for a bit because the paralysis has not worn off yet. sort of like when you reboot your computer it takes time for for the icons to load before you can click on them. the condition is due to an ill-timed disconnection between the brain and the body. Sleep paralysis is the result of premature (or persistent) mind-body disconnection as one is about to enter into (or exit from) REM sleep.
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    Is there any pray that could be said to stop it from coming back. I'm having this every night for the past week. If your going to describe it as SP, it's bull****!!
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    one of the ways to protect one self from sleep paralysis/ jinn is when you lie down to sleep read the following dua

    The prophet (PBUH) said who ever rests in a place, sleeps or sits and reads this dua nothing can harm him, no jinn or poisonous animal etc. As long as he stays there and does not move from that place.

    Among the saheeh du’aa’s for refuge that have been narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) are:


    “A’oodhu bi kalimaat Allaah al-taammaati min sharri maa khalaq"


    (I seek refuge in the perfect words of Allaah from the evil of that which He has created).”(Narrated by Muslim, al-Dhikr wa’l-Du’aa, 4881)

    A sahabah came and said "I was stung by a scorpion last night when i was sleeping in a valley. He (pbuh) said not even the scorpion would have harmed you had you read this dua.

    And Allah (swt) does Know Best
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    happened to me umpteenth time until it stopped a few years back..first time this occured, i thought it was death for me...then when it went off, i prayed..then it came on and off..initially, it was scary....but soon, became irritating...the most frustrating thing about this is that i couldn't even move my tongue to recite the Ayat al Kursi...Subahanallah...maybe my faith wasn't strong then? Allahu a'alam...
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    **** it happened to me once, it was 5-6 yrs ago i woke and realise i could move. no matter how hard i try and also i couldnt speak. then i realised there was a lot of water coming out of my eyes there was a clock and i saw it was ticking so that made me realise that it wasnt dream. then after a long time i got up and started crying.

    ufff i recall that and i feel so scared but thank god it never happend again.
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    Salams,

    I don't think sleep paralysis and the jinn are connected. Allah knows best.

    I have had both encounters, sleep paralysis, I think it's because of lack of circulation, body weight, anemia or stress, or leaning on your body on one side too much while asleep.

    The other occasion was when I went outdoors to bringing in my cat and I felt a dark giant was behind me and somehow my foot got stuck into the road and my back being pressed down...in no time I was on the ground. I felt like something was pressing me down and crushing, burning feeling started happening on my foot ankle and leg and back pressed down, I thought may I am having heart attack so I said the kalima, and I prayed to Allah and I said this wasn't the right time to go because of my young kids being left all alone, and then that burden went away. In fact this happened another time in the kitchen when I had a lot of trauma, both times I was under immense stress and unhappiness.

    I think I would call that close to having a stroke.

    Forget the Jinn, they are tonally useless, it's a waste of time and effort even thinking about them.

    Keep yourself healthy and in good Iman. Trust Allah, in the end we all have to return to Him.

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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    ^ The time I was in the kitchen and I felt something heavy was on me, I couldn't even breathe even when I tried.

    The other time I when I was out to get the cat, it was midnight, quite eerie and not a sound anywhere, I was in the middle of the road and it seemed bumpy that's when I thought it was strange what could happen if say someone fell here, could easily get knocked by a car, my cat was giving me strange glare, it just stared into my eyes in a really weird way, then I tried to get it but that's when it happened, when my foot got stuck. So when I was on the ground, after I said the Kalima, it went away and I wasn't sure what limbs I could move, the foot that was stuck, was weak and I had to limp back home. I had a huge swelling and a bruise when I took the shoe off. Had to go to the emergency as I couldn't walk and this bruise lasted me 6 months. I realized that I may have got diabetic. I was eating too many sweets, chocs when I was depressed and every I ate something sweet the same foot would swell up again. When I did some research I found out that sugar can become very poisonous to the body.

    I have left sugars since and my foot has healed & I've not had any kind of problem since.

    As for sleep paralysis the cure is again don't have sugars and do plenty of exercise.

    I can vouch that reciting Ayatul Kursi really does remove nightmares, subhan Allah.

    Okay guys it's past 3.00 pm - No more talk of jinns tonight!

    Wasalam
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Sameera View Post
    ^ The time I was in the kitchen and I felt something heavy was on me, I couldn't even breathe even when I tried.

    The other time I when I was out to get the cat, it was midnight, quite eerie and not a sound anywhere, I was in the middle of the road and it seemed bumpy that's when I thought it was strange what could happen if say someone fell here, could easily get knocked by a car, my cat was giving me strange glare, it just stared into my eyes in a really weird way, then I tried to get it but that's when it happened, when my foot got stuck. So when I was on the ground, after I said the Kalima, it went away and I wasn't sure what limbs I could move, the foot that was stuck, was weak and I had to limp back home. I had a huge swelling and a bruise when I took the shoe off. Had to go to the emergency as I couldn't walk and this bruise lasted me 6 months. I realized that I may have got diabetic. I was eating too many sweets, chocs when I was depressed and every I ate something sweet the same foot would swell up again. When I did some research I found out that sugar can become very poisonous to the body.

    I have left sugars since and my foot has healed & I've not had any kind of problem since.

    As for sleep paralysis the cure is again don't have sugars and do plenty of exercise.

    I can vouch that reciting Ayatul Kursi really does remove nightmares, subhan Allah.

    Okay guys it's past 3.00 pm - No more talk of jinns tonight!

    Wasalam
    LOL...yes..i agree on the ayatal Kursi part...
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession

    Of course Ayat-ul-kursi should be reading before sleeping every night, alongwith the 3 Kul-Surahs and Surah Al Mulk and The Shahadah.

    In my opinion the phenomenon described by the OP seems to be a case of hypnagogic/hypnopompic hallucinations, it's happened to me a few times and the first time I freaked out but later I learnt it's just a normal thing. It feels very REAL though, like I'm trying so hard to speak and move but I can't...I didn't have the shaking episode though, that would worry me about epilepsy or other related conditions.

    Sometimes doctors do polysomnography(sleep studies) for this purpose...but usually that's done for stuff like sleep-walking, sleep-talking etc.
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    Should be read* (sorry, mistake in the previous post)
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    Re: Sleep Paralysis vs Jinn Possession


    don't know if its jinn but i had something happen to me where i woke up in the middle of the night and i could not move my right arm all the way up from the shoulder i never had it happen before so it was hell funny i thought because of the fact i was half asleep i was not in my senses at all i actually thought somebody cut my arm off
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