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UGH!!!!!!! Nice Guys Finish Last

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    Have you ever wondered why nice guys ALWAYS finish last, at least on Earth, most definately not the hereafter.

    Why?

    Why does society have so much loving respect and unmatched fear of the "bad boys."

    Even our superheroes, batman and superman, do their "good deeds" through ferociously violent acts.

    Well-accomplished "good guys" like Bill Gates are passed off as "tame" and "nerdy" whilst the far less-accomplished serial murderers (Jeffrey Dahmer, "BTK," Charles Manson) are given iconic status in the hearts of the youth and our less-to-say, trash culture.

    Why do people pass off "good" as being tame or weak?

    This is a big question that's gotten me terribly frustrated at times and has even become a theme in my daily life.

    Here's a scenario:


    There was a lonely guy in my fitness class, seemed like a quiet, tame kind of guy, I fealt a bit sorry for him, so I talked to him a few times. After 3 or so weeks, he started wising up to me. I got sick of his show-offy ways so I pushed him into a wall and had a few words with him in a dark corner, and from that day on he hasn't said a wise word to anyone, let alone myself.

    Is anyone else fed up with this system of "respect?"
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    Re: UGH!!!!!!! Nice Guys Finish Last

    that guy needs a nice mug of Chaa (pakistani tea)
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    It's not about being a badboy, it's confidence these guys have bucket loads of it, you could be the nicest guy in the world just show confidence.
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    Re: UGH!!!!!!! Nice Guys Finish Last

    It's not about being a badboy, it's confidence these guys have bucket loads of it, you could be the nicest guy in the world just show confidence.
    Confidence? Everytime a "good guy" shows confidence its passed off as arrogance. A world of double standards.
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    Re: UGH!!!!!!! Nice Guys Finish Last

    bro seriously, this is so minor
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    Re: UGH!!!!!!! Nice Guys Finish Last

    bro seriously, this is so minor
    I know, but everywhere I go, its IN MY FACE! Its like a plague of sorts, and being a good guy doesn't carry merit anymore.
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    Re: UGH!!!!!!! Nice Guys Finish Last

    wallahi..dnt mean to be rude..... totally dnt understand this thread....or is it the time..lol

    can u explain it again...inshalah
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    Re: UGH!!!!!!! Nice Guys Finish Last

    wallahi..dnt mean to be rude..... totally dnt understand this thread....or is it the time..lol

    can u explain it again...inshalah
    Must be my English, I speak 'Murkin!

    The thread is about all my frustration towards the societal reputation system.

    EXAMPLE:

    Good guys are passed of as weak, tame, inconfident, and otherwise useless.

    "Bad Boys" are treated like royalty; they get everything they desire just because of the "bad boy" image.

    I hope that makes it easier
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    He might have thought you were coming onto him!

    And it was you who pushed him!
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    Re: UGH!!!!!!! Nice Guys Finish Last

    OK, you must never watch chick flicks because the nice guys always win the girl in the end. Sadly, these movies shape how women look for a man. For example, the women are shown that bad boys do not make good mates, but good guys, while not as tempting, make so much better partners. Also, Bill Gates is an icon and is more widely recognized around the world than the aforementioned serial killers. Yes, some girls are more readily attracted to bad boys, but there are many, many more who like the nerds and geeks. In fact, after Napoleon Dynamite came out, being a nerd and liking a nerd were and still are popular.
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    OK, you must never watch chick flicks because the nice guys always win the girl in the end.
    That is far from reality. My school, like many, is picking up a trend that is popular in Europe; see, a year ago, jocks were the life of my school, now, its the band members who are at the spotlight. That's bad, because this year, I inched closer to making Varsity in Baseball! ffended:

    But its not just my unimportant situation, its society in general. This backward way will wear off, hopefully, but its been gaining steam ever since it was popularized by Western culture and the "roaring '20's."
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    Re: UGH!!!!!!! Nice Guys Finish Last

    I think you have a skewed view of reality...you can't run your life by cliches...
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    I think you have a skewed view of reality...you can't run your life by cliches...
    So I'm not real?

    I seriously live my life through a corrupt and changing scope! Oooooh! Its the material culture that's ruining me, I have to get out of America, NOW!!!! :grumbling
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    Society admires things they can not be in their own lives. So they admire people, either in life or in movies, that represent a status or way of life that normally ordinary people could not become or afford to become without the consequences or the work needed to achieve it. Why do you think celebrities are so popular and why a lot of people are interested in thier personal lives? Thus, people admire 'bad guys' because they represent confidence and control, attributes that it was found that ordinary people often lacked. Everybody can become a 'nice guy' but not everyone can become a 'bad guy' without the consequences of that choice. So that is why it is appealing to ordinary people since most can't aspire to become a 'bad guy' and get away with it. Don't confuse the notion as 'bad guy' being evil, movies depicts 'bad guys' as essentially 'good guys' but do not respect rules or anybody.

    Another thing, a lot of girls in the Western societies are naive, and think 'bad guys' as sexy, in control and cool...Until they get beaten or treated as female dogs. Regretable but I figure it is lesson they must learn on their own.

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    Maybe you finish last because you are a little too dramatic and cocky from what I have read by you.
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    Re: UGH!!!!!!! Nice Guys Finish Last

    Maybe you finish last because you are a little too dramatic and cocky from what I have read by you.
    Cocky? Its impossible to be cocky and dramatic at the same time, its like exuding confidence in the field of depression...it doesn't make ANY sense whatsoever
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    Dramatic does not equal depression, so yes, one can be both cocky and dramatic.
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    Dramatic does not equal depression, so yes, one can be both cocky and dramatic.
    Don't hate me because I double task!
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    I never said I hated you, but I do think you are a jerk/too sarcastic by your posts.
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    Re: UGH!!!!!!! Nice Guys Finish Last

    format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir View Post
    Don't hate me because I double task?
    lol!!

    I'm laughing but we should cut down on the insults.
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