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    i have some land and i keep chickens in my pens but outside i keep a dawg to stop fox and people like gypsy that steal my chickens i had my hobby for a long tym cos i'm workin on a breeding program so plz help is it good dat i keep a dog for dis reason o yea i all so wear over alls to walk my dog i all so tried having camera but they jus put a mask on and started to steal now i got new place i don't want to lose my chickens again

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    if i call the police dat my chickens got stolen don't you tink they gunna laugh

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    Re: keeping a dog

    may i ask question?
    what's wrong with having a dog?
    it looks like it's forbiden for you to have dog - pet? Can you have other animals?
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    Re: keeping a dog

    dog is an unclean animal
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    Re: keeping a dog

    format_quote Originally Posted by SHAH G View Post
    dog is an unclean animal
    Agreed !

    THey also carry diseases
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    Re: keeping a dog



    hmmm for your purpose i thought islamically it would be allowed? Allahu A3alam [we need sheikh Fi Sabilillah ]

    and the bunny was taken from alpha tasmiyah and i took off him this has gone rong neways off topicness sorry...yeh we need bro Fi

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    Re: keeping a dog

    Praise be to Allaah.

    According to Islaamic Sharee’ah, it is not permitted to keep a dog except within narrowly-defined limits, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) explained: "Whoever keeps a dog, his good deeds will decrease every day by one qeeraat (a unit of measurement), unless it is a dog for farming or herding." According to another report: ". . . unless it is a dog for herding sheep, farming or hunting." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, al-Fath, 2322)

    Dogs are extremely naajis (impure, unclean). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "If a dog drinks from the vessel of any one of you, let him wash it seven times" (reported by Muslim, no. 279). According to another report: ". . . and clean it the eighth time with earth." (Saheeh Muslim, no. 280).

    It is forbidden in Islaam to sell a dog and to receive payment for it, as is reported in Saheeh al-Bukhaari from Abu Mas’oud al-Ansaari: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade (accepting) the price of a dog. (al-Fath, no. 2237)

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us not to resemble dogs by placing our forearms on the ground during sujood (prostration), as in reported in the hadeeth narrated by Anas ibn Maalik, according to which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Do sujood properly; none of you should spread his forearms like a dog does." (al-Bukhaari, Fath, no. 822).

    Whoever keeps a dog in his house is denied the blessing of the angels’ presence in his house, as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 3225).

    Keeping dogs nowadays is the habit of the kuffaar, who adopt them as friends, kiss them, let them lick them and their clothes, sleep with them and even leave them money in their wills. Keeping a dog is an imitation of the kuffaar. Some Muslims may claim that they need to keep a dog at home for purposes of protection, to which we respond that nowadays there are burglar alarm systems and other measures one may take for security purposes, and there is no need to keep a dog, praise be to Allaah.

    It only remains for us to say that the fact that it is forbidden to keep a dog and interect closely with it does not mean that we should not be kind or feel compassion towards dogs if we see them in a pitiful state. These are two entirely separate matters. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us that "a man saw a dog biting the dust because of thirst, so he took his shoe and started to scoop water up with it until the dog’s thirst was quenched. Allaah appreciated his good deed and granted him entry to Paradise for it." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, no. 174).

    According to another report, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whilst a man was walking he became very thirsty, so he went down to a well and drank from it. When he came out, he saw a dog panting and biting the soil because of thirst. The man said, ‘He is suffering the same as I suffered,’ so he filled his shoe (with water), came out and let the dog drink until his thirst was quenched. Allaah appreciated his good deed and forgave him because of it." The people asked, "O Messenger of Allaah, will we be rewarded for how we treat animals?" He said, "In every living thing there is a reward." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, Fath, no. 2363).

    We do not want to omit reminding you of the importance of reading the Qur’aan properly and referring to it. You say in your question that the story of the thirsty dog is in the Qur’aan, and that is not the case, as it is reported in the Sunnah.

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    Re: keeping a dog

    salaam

    in sahih bukhari theres a hadith which says

    "Angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or an animate picture"

    and this is backed up by this story also in muslim

    once Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) became sad; and said that Jibra'eel (Álayhis Salaam) promised to meet him at night but did not turn up. "By Allah what has kept him back," said the Prophet (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam). Then he realised a puppy was under his bed. He ordered that the puppy be removed and the area be sprinkled with water. In the afternoon when Jibra'eel (Álayhi Salaam) came, Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) enquired as to the delay. Jibra'eel (Álayhi Salaam) said that we, the group of Angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or pictures.

    the saliva of f doggys is haraam, thats why they haram, so if you can sum how stop salivin then woo hoo

    dogs are allowed for huntin purposes or protection, i wanna dog erm but i aint got a valid reason so im gona go huntin

    and your question bro, for protection .. dogs are allowed aswell, in sahih muslim it says .....

    "Ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who keeps a dog other than that meant for watching the herd or for hunting loses every day out of his deeds equal to two qirat."

    so lol for your purpose of protectin chickens from foxes and gypsies lol thats allowed

    and also people that say bla bla bla islam hates dogs n bla bla bla some ulema say that the dog who was with the people in the cave, (the story in surah kahf) they say that dog is gona be in heaven, so hush

    neway lol bro hope that helps ya
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    Re: keeping a dog

    I'm just thinking about a time I had a dog to protect my chickens.


    The dog ate the chickens.

    Actually before I reverted i was a dog lover and at one time did raise dogs. I will agree dogs are remarkable creatures and as creatures of Allah(swt) we do need to treat them as such. they are not to be mistreated nor neglected. However, as Muslims we need to be carefull that we only keep them within the guidelines that were given to us.

    I can not say that a Muslim should not have a dog. I can only speak for myself and say that at the present time I would have no purpose of keeeping one that would be within the prescribed limits.

    Each of us will have to determine if we have valid reason to own one or if we are trying to adjust purpose to meet our own desires.
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    Re: keeping a dog

    format_quote Originally Posted by SHAH G View Post
    yep dats him http://ganoi.com/photopost/showgalle...500&ppuser=139 these are all my burds i kept they all got stolen and some i sold a pair my birds can be sold for about £350
    Why are you keeping the birds?
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    thanx for all the replie man i fell better and o yea i keep asian gamefowl not steel fowl
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    Re: keeping a dog

    assalamualikum warahmatullahi warahbarakathuhu

    Akhi i thought keep a dog is alright, i mean keeping a dog as a gurad is okay humm :confused:

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    Re: keeping a dog

    format_quote Originally Posted by SHAH G View Post
    yep dats him http://ganoi.com/photopost/showgalle...500&ppuser=139 these are all my burds i kept they all got stolen and some i sold a pair my birds can be sold for about £350
    assalamualikum warahmatullahi warahbarakathuhu

    Subhanallah there ALL yours mashallah Akhi, oh your like me then, i love cats && i have got 6 mashallah && woow you like chicks kewl keep it up

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    Re: keeping a dog

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    I'm just thinking about a time I had a dog to protect my chickens.


    The dog ate the chickens.

    lol

    i remember one time we kept 'ayam serama' it is a small chicken...and petite...but it beautiful. Most people keep them as pets.

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    it is kind of world smallest chicken...

    some info you can find on this link http://www.happychickeneggfarm.com/serama/

    anyway...there was a dog passing by my house...and he was persistently barking wanting to eat the chicks. We were scared of the dog...so we do not do anything to prevent the dog from eating the chicks. So that was the last time for us to keep chickens.
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    ayam serama are nice but jus call em serama and ayam jus means chicken i got ayam bangkok it's import from thailand they leung huang kao(LHK) strain really good bloodline i had em import about 3 yr ago but nw i can't get anyting cos of tha chicken flu virus ting goin on malaysian thai are same as ayam bankok in thailand
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    Re: keeping a dog

    My grandad used to have chickens at his house but then a few got ill and died in a storm so he zibaed (if that makes sence) the last one and we ate it :X (We'd called it Freddy for those of you who're interested )
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    the odd thing is...the chicken business here are not affected at all with birds flu...(which i think maybe only few % affected with the flu)...

    they even increase the chicken price...that is quite sad though because Malaysian loves chicken ffended:

    and it seems every year they are increasing the price...

    well is good for me i think...because i'm trying my best to avoid chicken because i just read article on diet based on blood type...and it says that chicken will make me fat (actually i don't really believe it...just experimenting myself...whether the article is telling the truth )
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    oooooooooooh southern fried chicken lol man i'm ###### only drank water at sehri
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    Re: keeping a dog

    assalamualikum warahmatullahi warahbarakathuhu

    so humm it is allowed to keep a dog then or what? :confused:

    Akhi what dog do you have?

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    Re: keeping a dog

    format_quote Originally Posted by SHAH G View Post
    american pitbull
    assalamualikum warahmatullahi warahbarakathuhu

    American pitbull mashallah there beautiful, oh i had a dog in U.S (thats where i originally come from) && i even got mine trained i miss my dog

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