Grave Worshipping in Islam

format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor

Is it permissable? Personally from what i've heard i'd say it was forbidden in Islam, but i've seen it happen so many times. Some say Shai's do it more in a way of tradition.

Your views please? Any verses from the Quran back this up?


sectarian

its completely forbidden, thats shirk. We worship no-one BUT Allah !!

It is forbidden and completely contrary to what Islam is, which is worshipping none but God. See,

http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-...n-tawheed.html

that link says its shias anyhow :X

format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor

Is it permissable? Personally from what i've heard i'd say it was forbidden in Islam, but i've seen it happen so many times. Some say Shai's do it more in a way of tradition.

Your views please? Any verses from the Quran back this up?

sectarian

i am not qualified to answer your question.
some would say that the respect sikhs show to the SGGS constitutes worship. i think there is some confusion between the 2 terms "respect" and "worship".
some also say that the respect muslims show to the ka'ba is worship. i think that's incorrect also.

Well the shahaadah says its all:

There is none worthy of worship but Allah.

format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs

i am not qualified to answer your question.
some would say that the respect sikhs show to the SGGS constitutes worship. i think there is some confusion between the 2 terms "respect" and "worship".
some also say that the respect muslims show to the ka'ba is worship. i think that's incorrect also.

Ka'bah is just the Qibla (the direction for facing while praying)..thats why we face the Qibla. We do not worship the Ka'bah, we worship the Lord of the Ka'bah.

As far is people visiting graves, it is allowed and encouraged to make dua'a (supplicate) FOR the forgiveness of the dead.
But people go there for different reasons - they do shirk there by asking dua'a FROM the dead person. shirk is the worst crime a human being can commit, since he/she is associating parterns to Allah, Subhanahu wa Ta'ala. Only in Allah's hands is our destiny. He is the Only One to ask for help.
Shirk is what is forbidden in Islam. Allah, the Just and Merciful is everywhere. Every Muslim has a direct connection to his Lord.
People have come up with these innovative ideas of visting graves of pious people to ask from them. SubhanAllah! may Allah protect us from all sorts and forms of Shirk.
Ameen

format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs

i am not qualified to answer your question.
some would say that the respect sikhs show to the SGGS constitutes worship. i think there is some confusion between the 2 terms "respect" and "worship".
some also say that the respect muslims show to the ka'ba is worship. i think that's incorrect also.

Indeed, but bowing to a grave of a deceased is completely different to prostrating before the 'Shabad' (Word of God) These are people who were once human, and only God is worthy of Worship.

format_quote Originally Posted by moujahid

Ka'bah is just the Qibla (the direction for facing while praying)..thats why we face the Qibla. We do not worship the Ka'bah, we worship the Lord of the Ka'bah.

As far is people visiting graves, it is allowed and encouraged to make dua'a (supplicate) FOR the forgiveness of the dead.
But people go there for different reasons - they do shirk there by asking dua'a FROM the dead person. shirk is the worst crime a human being can commit, since he/she is associating parterns to Allah, Subhanahu wa Ta'ala. Only in Allah's hands is our destiny. He is the Only One to ask for help.
Shirk is what is forbidden in Islam. Allah, the Just and Merciful is everywhere. Every Muslim has a direct connection to his Lord.
People have come up with these innovative ideas of visting graves of pious people to ask from them. SubhanAllah! may Allah protect us from all sorts and forms of Shirk.
Ameen

i understand what you are saying above and the difference in praying for the forgiveness of the dead. i guess only god knows what is in a person's heart.

format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor

Indeed, but bowing to a grave of a deceased is completely different to prostrating before the 'Shabad' (Word of God) These are people who were once human, and only God is worthy of Worship.

yes, you're right - they are different. my point was that people shouldn't judge what is in someone's heart - this should be in god's department. a sikh bowing to the SGGS might, to an outside observer look like he was worshiping it, even though he was/does not.
obviously, according to islam, i am incorrect.

Please realize that Shias are just as much a cult that is far from Islam just like Qadianis and NOI

format_quote Originally Posted by amani

that link says its shias anyhow :X

Not sure what that means? Are they not muslim?? :-S

format_quote Originally Posted by Hijrah

Please realize that Shias are just as much a cult that is far from Islam just like Qadianis and NOI

Oh that answers my question. To be completely honest i wasn't aware of cults existence in Islam. Reason why i respected it so much.

format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor

Not sure what that means? Are they not muslim?? :-S

Peace

check this out ..

http://www.islamicboard.com/sects-di...-overview.html

format_quote Originally Posted by justahumane

Agreed, but if respecting a grave prompt U to visit it every Thursday and sing songs in praise of the person resting there, and asking the person to get ur work done, offer him some sweets on his grave,................than indeed its something un-islamic.

lol, True - Manmat as we say...