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    I am going to Saudi Arabia (OP)


    Having been all across the world, I have chosen Saudi Arabia as a place I want to go next. I have all the information and permission from the goverment to enter the country now, but it was a very big hassle. First I had to show proof that I was not a Jew. Jews are not allowed in Saudi Arabia which is complete religious discrimination, of course but anyway, that is not the point of me starting this thread.

    What culturaul things should I know that would make visiting Saudi Arabia different from other countries I have been to. (Turkey and Jordan). Is my wife as a non-Muslim expected to cover up as well? What happends if she does not?

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

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    format_quote Originally Posted by ManchesterFolk View Post
    Having been all across the world, I have chosen Saudi Arabia as a place I want to go next. I have all the information and permission from the goverment to enter the country now, but it was a very big hassle. First I had to show proof that I was not a Jew. Jews are not allowed in Saudi Arabia which is complete religious discrimination, of course but anyway, that is not the point of me starting this thread.

    What culturaul things should I know that would make visiting Saudi Arabia different from other countries I have been to. (Turkey and Jordan). Is my wife as a non-Muslim expected to cover up as well? What happends if she does not?
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    nothing will happen in jeddah but in makkah and madinah you wont be allowed

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    format_quote Originally Posted by ManchesterFolk View Post

    Then why did I have to prove I was not Jewish?
    how does a person prove that they are not jewish?
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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    r u going for hajj

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aisha! View Post
    r u going for hajj


    no hes not muslim

    MF have you been yet?
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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aisha! View Post
    r u going for hajj
    he is not muslim sis

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    Ok I'm from Saudi Arabia, I was born and been living there ever since. As for the Jews if they're allowed or not.. I know you might be surprised but I'm not quite sure, I've heard some tell me that they are not allowed, however some might come in with other religion in papers while they still practise their religion. I think the ones that are not allowed are Sikh's, yep I'm quite sure that they're not allowed, haven't seen any of them there before.

    As for your wife, it depends on the city that you're going to. For example in Jiddah, even some Arabic and muslim girls at some places do not cover their heads. And there are like resorts where women do not cover at all. (Do not judge the whole population, these are individuals that I'm talking about). And as far as I know IF your wife was a Muslim they might stop her and just tell her to cover up, however I don't think the same goes for the non-muslims. Ofcourse all of that is regarding Jiddah and few other cities.

    If you're going for tourism I advice you to visit Jiddah (my hometown) and El-Shargiyah, those are probably the best places to find shopping malls, entertainment...etc

    Yeah also the shops closes at prayer times... just incase.

    Ummm... yeah I would not advice you, if you're taking any pictures, to go and show up your camera in public in shopping malls or where families gather. People usually get uncomfortable with that, especially families. If you want to take picture of a certain family for example you might want to ask them first.

    Don't know what else might be in use for you so if you'd be more specific on what kind of tourism or what kind of info do you want I'd be more than glad to provide you with whatever is it that I have.

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    format_quote Originally Posted by ManchesterFolk View Post
    Having been all across the world, I have chosen Saudi Arabia as a place I want to go next. I have all the information and permission from the goverment to enter the country now, but it was a very big hassle. First I had to show proof that I was not a Jew. Jews are not allowed in Saudi Arabia which is complete religious discrimination, of course but anyway, that is not the point of me starting this thread.

    What culturaul things should I know that would make visiting Saudi Arabia different from other countries I have been to. (Turkey and Jordan). Is my wife as a non-Muslim expected to cover up as well? What happends if she does not?


    TBH i don't think he is going. Just to make a purile statement

    If you truly are going then you will not be allowed to visit makkah or medinah. If you are jewish i would suggest you do not tell anyone your faith as you might not come back on one piece!


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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    format_quote Originally Posted by traveler View Post
    erm in saudi Arabia...Is proof needed to identify oneself if not jew?.....is this true?...why arent jews allowed? any valid reasons?

    erm yeap....non muslims are not allowed to enter both makkah or madinah as its been clearly mentioned by brothers above.....

    regarding ur wife covering up......depends where shes staying at?....am not sure at all....hope others can help inshAllah....
    how come your going to Saudi Arabia?
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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs View Post
    how does a person prove that they are not jewish?
    I can think of one way, but it's a bit naughty.

    On a more serious note, I'll give this thread a bit more time to answer the question in the first post. If it appears after that time that there is no definitive answer from someone who knows the laws, I'll probably close it.

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    format_quote Originally Posted by amani View Post


    well jews have made trouble in saudi before so im not surprised they are banned :rolleyes: im talking recent not years ago either.

    hope you have a nice time. i dont think your wife has to cover her hair but the black 'abaya' is required
    Its not wise what you say. I could say similar thing- muslims made trouble in Europe so im not suprised that they are banned.

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    Its not wise what you say. I could say similar thing- muslims made trouble in Europe so im not suprised that they are banned.
    Peace

    saudi arabia is slightly different from europre, im not talking about the whole arab world im talking about the holy land, its a strictly 100% muslim country.

    and why would a jew want to go there anyway? if i recall correctly its an israeli stamp thatd ban a person in the country, including muslims....
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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    Its not wise what you say. I could say similar thing- muslims made trouble in Europe so im not suprised that they are banned.


    ^lol drivel. I'm a british born european, i practice my faith openly. I know many brothers and sisters across europe that do the same! In which country are they banned? We even have a masjid in the heart of Rome!

    Muslims do not make trouble. We are a peaceful bunch. Shall we blame all the christians for what is happening in Iraq? Afganistan? of from the past Algeria etc

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

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    ^lol drivel. I'm a british born european, i practice my faith openly. I know many brothers and sisters across europe that do the same! In which country are they banned? We even have a masjid in the heart of Rome!

    Muslims do not make trouble. We are a peaceful bunch. Shall we blame all the christians for what is happening in Iraq? Afganistan? of from the past Algeria etc

    :X

    I didnt say that muslims are banned in going to Europe, i just said what if they would be, just like Jews in entering Saudi Arabia?


    As i know in Algeria in nineties during war between islamists and army 200 000 people died, so how you want to balme christians for that? The same in Iraq, shias killing sunnnis and vice versa. And in Afghanistan taliban attacks harm innocent civils mostly.

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    Guys, can we not get sidetracked please? Unless somebody's got an answer to the question in the first post, it would probably be unwise to post anything on this thread, since it would get deleted, you'd get angry, I'd get a headache, yadda yadda yadda...

    All this commotion would obviously contribute to both the Greenhouse and Butterfly Effects, resulting in melted ice cream cones in truly shaken Japanese high rises. I don't want that on my conscience. Do you?

    Stay to the topic please.

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85 View Post
    I didnt say that muslims are banned in going to Europe, i just said what if they would be, just like Jews in entering Saudi Arabia?


    As i know in Algeria in nineties during war between islamists and army 200 000 people died, so how you want to balme christians for that? The same in Iraq, shias killing sunnnis and vice versa. And in Afghanistan taliban attacks harm innocent civils mostly.


    ^lol you're joking right!? France is a christian state invaded algeria hence a christian war. Same argument with America and UK inavading iraq and afganistan, hence a christian war in which we should blame all christians should'nt we? Am i wrong? If so please don't blame all muslims for the actions of a small minority.

    If one was to judge the actions of the west so far they would indeed think all Christians were hate filled warmongers.

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    format_quote Originally Posted by HBot 5000 View Post


    ^lol you're joking right!? France is a christian state invaded algeria hence a christian war. Same argument with America and UK inavading iraq and afganistan, hence a christian war in which we should blame all christians should'nt we? Am i wrong? If so please don't blame all muslims for the actions of a small minority.

    If one was to judge the actions of the west so far they would indeed think all Christians were hate filled warmongers.


    France is secular country. In USA there is disconnection between church and state. And war in Iraq and Afghanistan wasnt motivated by religious goals, unlike 9/11 attacks or war in Algeria in nineties between army and islamists.

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    Re: I am going to Saudi Arabia

    Since this thread is going off on a tangent, and since the thread starter Manchester Folk hasn't posted on it for a long time, and since nobody has actually answered his question, I've decided to lock it.


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