A Royal Navy crew broke into applause after landing on British soil Thursday, basking in relief shared by a nation after their release from 13 days of captivity in Iran. (AP Photo/ MoD, Chris Wenham)
WASHINGTON --
The Bush administration welcomed Thursday's homecoming of 15 British sailors and marines released from Iranian captivity and for the first time since the crisis erupted accused Iran of using 'hostage diplomacy' to boost its status.
With the soldiers safely back on British soil, the White House and the State Department turned up criticism of Iran that had been deliberately toned down during the incident in an effort not to complicate the situation.
From his ranch in Crawford, Texas, President Bush spoke with British Prime Minister Tony Blair in a lengthy video conference, telling him he was pleased that the 15 had returned home, National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said.
This was a script written, produced and directed by "Ahmadinejad" and the whole world fortunately acted their part like he wanted.
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Re: U.S. accuses Iran of 'hostage diplomacy' - Your Views
format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor
U.S. accuses Iran of 'hostage diplomacy'
By MATTHEW LEE
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
A Royal Navy crew broke into applause after landing on British soil Thursday, basking in relief shared by a nation after their release from 13 days of captivity in Iran. (AP Photo/ MoD, Chris Wenham)
WASHINGTON --
The Bush administration welcomed Thursday's homecoming of 15 British sailors and marines released from Iranian captivity and for the first time since the crisis erupted accused Iran of using 'hostage diplomacy' to boost its status.
With the soldiers safely back on British soil, the White House and the State Department turned up criticism of Iran that had been deliberately toned down during the incident in an effort not to complicate the situation.
From his ranch in Crawford, Texas, President Bush spoke with British Prime Minister Tony Blair in a lengthy video conference, telling him he was pleased that the 15 had returned home, National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said.
This was a script written, produced and directed by "Ahmadinejad" and the whole world fortunately acted their part like he wanted.
Re: U.S. accuses Iran of 'hostage diplomacy' - Your Views
format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor
Erm, you alone are ''England'' a majority of us brits don't want anything to do with the US and their bullying ways!
UK and Iran diplomacy, see how it works? Dubya must be spitting feathers at how we managed all this. hehe
We don't want to be associated with Iranians.. They are our enemies. The US are our allies, our friends and the majority of Brits would no doubt agree on that. I don't like the American policy of "make Iraq a better place for Iraqis" because basically I don't care about Iraqis. We are still on the American side as they are with us, hence Bush helping us to get the hostages back..
Re: U.S. accuses Iran of 'hostage diplomacy' - Your Views
How did you bushy do that then eh england....?
It was diplomacy at its best by both nations.
The videos of the detainees showed they were alive and not under threat nor were they paraded in orange jumpsuits chained to eachother. like those yanks do.
Didn't they take over a year to free their men years ago?? lol we got them back in 13 days.
Screw dubya and his admin!
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Re: U.S. accuses Iran of 'hostage diplomacy' - Your Views
format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor
How did you bushy do that then eh england....?
It was diplomacy at its best by both nations.
The videos of the detainees showed they were alive and not under threat nor were they paraded in orange jumpsuits chained to eachother. like those yanks do.
Didn't they take over a year to free their men years ago?? lol we got them back in 13 days.
Screw dubya and his admin!
Umm they paraded them on live tv forcing them to "confess" and criticise the government. They spread the propoganda, got a British embassy attacked in Iran and then searched for an easy exit. They aren't the good guys. They are the ENEMIES. Everything you saw on tv was FAKE, an ACT. It's a "dream come true" to be back in England. Mustn't have been as good as the Iranians made out to believe. We will hear what REALLY happened hopefully.
Let's send those 15 troops back out again and continue to spy on Iran...
Re: U.S. accuses Iran of 'hostage diplomacy' - Your Views
format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor
UK and Iran diplomacy, see how it works?
You make a good point on diplomacy.
I agree that both Iran and the UK came out of it pretty well, all things considered. Ahmednejad had his big day on TV, but the British conceded nothing in getting the sailors back, which they managed without any threats or aggressive rhetoric.
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format_quote Originally Posted by England
Umm they paraded them on live tv forcing them to "confess" and criticise the government. They spread the propoganda, got a British embassy attacked in Iran and then searched for an easy exit. They aren't the good guys. They are the ENEMIES.
So England and US doesnt spread propaganda? Where do you think the term "Axis of Evil" came from? Why do you think the US is the least trusted nation in the world now (according to BBC survey)? Educate yourself --- I recommend you begin with Sam Keen.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble
You make a good point on diplomacy.
I agree that both Iran and the UK came out of it pretty well, all things considered. Ahmednejad had his big day on TV, but the British conceded nothing in getting the sailors back, which they managed without any threats or aggressive rhetoric.
Re: U.S. accuses Iran of 'hostage diplomacy' - Your Views
format_quote Originally Posted by England
Umm they paraded them on live tv forcing them to "confess" and criticise the government. They spread the propoganda, got a British embassy attacked in Iran and then searched for an easy exit. They aren't the good guys. They are the ENEMIES.
Yada yada yada
They got ''nice'' suits out of it.... :laugh:
We have no ememies, just fruitcake bushy wushy
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There was no way the Iranian president would have killed them. We all knew that. He wouldn't have dared...
It was a success for Iran, not the UK. They should be punished. By sorting this out "Diplomatically" it has made us look weak to Iran...
Re: U.S. accuses Iran of 'hostage diplomacy' - Your Views
format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble
You make a good point on diplomacy.
I agree that both Iran and the UK came out of it pretty well, all things considered. Ahmednejad had his big day on TV, but the British conceded nothing in getting the sailors back, which they managed without any threats or aggressive rhetoric.
Indeed! - It shows we don't have to get up in arms and attack each other. We are all winners in this. And how bushy managed to keep his gob shut throughout this mess, I'll never know!
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The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah.
Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
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Re: U.S. accuses Iran of 'hostage diplomacy' - Your Views
format_quote Originally Posted by England
There was no way the Iranian president would have killed them. We all knew that. He wouldn't have dared...
It was a success for Iran, not the UK. They should be punished. By sorting this out "Diplomatically" it has made us look weak to Iran...
Well as you're such a brave person get your rambo gear on and go to iran and show us how it's done.....Rambo....
Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā
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Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
Re: U.S. accuses Iran of 'hostage diplomacy' - Your Views
format_quote Originally Posted by England
There was no way the Iranian president would have killed them. We all knew that. He wouldn't have dared...
Calm down, mate. It's not a case of 'daring' or not, Ahmednejad had no reason to kill them and there isn't the slightest reason to think he wanted to do so. He is a clever political operator, not a psychopath.
It was a success for Iran, not the UK. They should be punished.
I have a certain problem with the idea of people being 'punished' for success. Sure, like you I don't believe the Iranian 'version' of events for a moment, but if they got away with it they got away with it. The hostages were released apparently unharmed - compare them the pilots who were captured in the first Gulf War, for example. So what 'punishment' is appropriate? As I said, I think both sides came out of it well, for different reasons.
By sorting this out "Diplomatically" it has made us look weak to Iran...
It was a diplomatic incident! Nobody has been made to look 'weak'. Sure, such things can blow up into more than that, but this didn't even come close. If the government had started waffling about sanctions we could never get agreed, or military action, the Iranians wouldn't think we were 'weak', they would think we were idiots - and they would be right.
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