Is it so hard to do?!?!?!

salaam

What I do not understand, is why some Muslims say, "We read Jummah prayer, that's enough, We'll go to heaven in the end anyway!"

I have'nt heard muslims i know say this alahamdulilah, but subhanallah Muslims need to know that Islam does not issuse Jannah tickits. Jannah is earned through good actions!
wa salaam

salaam

lol der r few ppl that go 2 jummah salaah and dont pray any ova salaah, but 1st we sudnt judge them, we got talk to them on a level

the best dawah ya can giv to someone who dont pray is tel them the hadiths in which RasoolAllah (saw) says " the difference between muslims and kuffar, is our performing of salaah"

u can say that if they not doin all salaah, they wil b included in kuffar accordin to that hadiths that sud propa effect them

and remem sis we can warn, but only Allah can guide em

Its sooo hard. I agree. Actions speak louder than words - if they see you doing it - inshallah they will get hidaayah too. If we are in their face about it (and it easily becomes this way because we are so emotional and WANT THEM TO CHANGE NOW NOW NOW!) they will just get cheesed off. Who wants someone ordering them around or telling them what they should be doing? They probably get enough of that at home or from others.

Its hard - but its important to be patient and give them time. If you talk about the beauty of Allah and his deen too, without getting all hyped, that should set them thinking. Make dua for them - get up at Tahajjud. Invite them to pray with you. When they do pray - make a big deal of it between the two of you "Wow! Thats great - you'll see how it'll change your whole being man!"
Thats what i think.

More suggestions would be great!
Peace

I think the reason might be that they have affirmed the truth with their tongue but they have not felt it with their heart. If the iman has not reached their heart, how can they fear? I think it just hasn't hit them that it is reality... they need something to really make it hit home.

Tell them if they can stand thousands, perhaps millions of years in the fires of hell? They can't even stand to be burned on a small patch of skin with a cigarette, so how can they stand hell for even a second?

The problem with these kind of people is that they are too obsessed with the materialist life of this wold, perhaps they don't have enough knowledge about Islam, or they Islam as being so many 'harams' that they feel they would never be able to be a good Muslim even if they tried because it will make life 'boring'...

Everyone is different, we should approach them with kindness and reminders, but with sternness too... depending on the person. And of course, time and patience and prayer to Allah!

How do we actually show them that Islam is not just a bunch of harams?

Well it is hard, because from their perspcective, they won't understand that a life with out girls/guys/music/movies/tv etc can be fun... it is something they have to experience for themselves to understand it...

And I guess you can tell them, okay, look, when Allah makes smething haram, He makes other things halal, so He made zina haram but He made marriage halal... etc

I guess it is different from person to person, but you have to take them through it slowly slowly... like maybe first give them a nice Islamic book about something that doesn't tell them 65% of their life style is major haram... maybe go for a book that shows how to develop a good Muslim character, one of those lovey dovey type things, you know lol. The stories of the Prophets is a great place to start...

Get them interested, get them hooked... look at the bigger issues, don't start talking to them about hijab or something if they don't even pray... you gotta work up to it, let them feel the love for Allah and Islam and eventually they will work up the guts to start reading about halal and haram and start taking their own slow steps to getting away from haram and closer to halal...

It won't be the same for every person though...

The tactic that that i see is the Makkan and Madani period technique, the Messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him) taught them how to love Allaah, His Messenger, the truthfulness of the hereafter, judgement day, paradise, hellfire, within Makkah, it made them love the deen and get attatched. It changed their inside - softened their heart, and once they were firm on the deen and whole heartedly into it - the major commandments of the halaals/haraams came within the Medinan Period.



So using wisdom, we gota make them love Islaam. Most think it's just a basic set of rules, but in reality these are a blessing. So we give them heart-softeners first, we explain to them the reality of Islaam and gradually help them make salaah. Once they become used to this, then they are prepared to change their lifestyle.


Ask any person who's become practising whole-heartedly, and you'll realise they went through a gradual process. I.e. if you go upto someone and say "THAT'S HARAAM, YOU FAASIQ/SINNER!" they going to distance themselves from you right?

And by the Mercy of Allah, you dealt with them gently. And had you been severe and harsh*hearted, they would have broken away from about you; so pass over (their faults), and ask (Allah's) Forgiveness for them; and consult them in the affairs. Then when you have taken a decision, put your trust in Allah, certainly, Allah loves those who put their trust (in Him).

[Qur'an 3: 159]

Don't you know that the majority of the Jews obeyed Allaah out of excessive fear? The christians became misguided and had excessive hope and love to the effect they turned away from their book? But the Muslims are in between - hope, fear, love which is balanced. We are the balanced ummah.


So use your wisdom. Treat these brothers and sisters like new reverts, teach them the basics because many don't know them. They have questions but they think they're not allowed to ask.

Instill the love of Allaah, His Messenger and show them you care, and that's why you don't want them to do wrong - because sinful acts are forbidden so they don't harm us. Show them the harms of that bad and the benefits of the good, and be patient with them.. sometimes you need to be gradual and patient, because they may be changing inside, they just waiting for the right time to change. If they jump into it in one go - then they likely to jump out the exact same way. But if they enter gradually, then they are likely to remain firm on it and change aspects of themselves gradually so they don't overburden themselves.



I had a friend in high school who never knew how to pray, atleast i think he never. What used to happen is that when we prayed Jummuah, he used to just do the movements without saying the words i think. The mates would laugh at him for not knowing how to pray - would that bring him closer to Allaah? No.

When we went college, we had many friends who had started practising Islaam. He started joining in because he felt the odd one out. He would be taught in kindness, because we want to bring him closer to Islaam - not distance him. So why embarrass him if our main intention is to draw him closer to Allaah? Rather we make him comfortable with us so if he is unsure of anything - he can ask and we can tell him that it's nothing embarrassing, and he will feel happy that he has mates who care.


The Messenger of Allaah treated the people with honor, even if someone was a high class or low class person - so the man would feel proud of being muslim and getting that respect. That's what you want to give other people. Don't feel your better than this person, because it might be that you die in an evil state (we seek refuge in Allaah), and it might be that this person dies in the state of Islaam. So always be humble yet honorable;

And the true servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk the earth with humility and when the ignorant address them, they respond with words of peace.

[Qur'an 25:63.]


16:125 Call unto the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching and reason with them in the best manner. Verily your Lord knows best who has strayed from His path and and best knows He as to who are the rightly-guided.


41:34 The good deed and the evil deed cannot be not equal. Return an evil deed with one that is good. Then he between whom and thyself was mutual enmity shall become as though he were an intimate friend.

And Allaah knows best.

One very good thing i learned is that harshness or sternness is really not the way to go.

For example some people wake others up for Fajr like this:yelling, "You lazy little thing! Get up before I bring a jug of water and splash it all over you, and put the light on and drag your bedcovers from you!"

Or you can go, "Oh Saabir! (patient one!), wake up for fajr" - in a calm, soothing, nice voice. If you compliment them like this "oh saabir" - that person may come to think they really are patient, and might make more of an effort to wake up.


Bro Fi - what are some ways we can help others to love Allah and Islam like you said? Some friends we may have -we might not see everyday and that makes it a bit harder. But what sorts of things do you think we could do that would show others the beauty of Islam and Allah?

Peace

format_quote Originally Posted by F.Y.

For example some people wake others up for Fajr like this:yelling, "You lazy little thing! Get up before I bring a jug of water and splash it all over you, and put the light on and drag your bedcovers from you!"

Jug? Don't you take out the garden hose?

lol kidding, but that is really a good point!

format_quote Originally Posted by F.Y

what are some ways we can help others to love Allah and Islam like you said? Some friends we may have -we might not see everyday and that makes it a bit harder. But what sorts of things do you think we could do that would show others the beauty of Islam and Allah?

It depends on how much knowledge your friends already have, if your friends are just normal people who have heard alot of things from their parents, but never really known the concept of what Islaam really is (from authentic sources.)

I.e. before i looked into Islaam properly, i never even had access to what the Qur'an meant, and when i did - i still never knew what it totally meant because i never knew the biography of the Messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him.) I remember i saw Surah Ar-Rum (The Romans) and i was amazed at the surah title, but when i looked into it there wasn't really much about the Romans. Which got me abit confused.


So what i would do first is mention abit of facts (from Authentic Sources; Qur'an/Sunnah) on Islaam to my mates every now and then which make them think differently from another angle. For example, if they get hurt - then i could try to tell them that this is a Mercy from Allaah because there is a hadith in Sahih Al Bukhari that;

Whatever befalls a Muslim of sorrow, grief, exhaustion, fatigue or harm, Allah will forgive him his sins for that. This is true even for a thorn that penetrates his foot.” (Bukhari & Muslim)

If they still are effected by the fact of good/bad deeds, then this may effect them in a positive way insha Allaah and make them draw abit closer to Allaah's Mercy.


Now again, it depends on your friend - if he/she has that little bit of pride in the fact that they're muslim and have that innocence, and they still recognise the concept of good/bad deeds - then continue in giving them small tips which will make them think about life from different angles.


Continue giving them amazing facts, narrate to them stories which you may have heard i.e. shocking stories of death, good/bad endings, and info like that because this makes them think about death more often, which makes them strive to be more prepared and willing to change themselves.


For example i posted in another thread;


There was a lecture i heard last year, and in this lecture the brother discussed good and bad endings of people.

There was a man who was waiting to go on a date with his girlfriend, i think he was muslim. He was waiting for her somewhere, but for some reason - she was taking a really long time. He was so desperate to meet her, why was she taking so long? After a while, she came. He was WELL HAPPY! He got so happy, he fell down and.. prostrated to her. What? Yeah, he did that.. but guess what? He never got up after that again. He died in that state. May Allaah protect us. You know what's shocking? We will be raised on the day of judgement on the last position we were in.



Here's a good one though.

There was a woman who was getting prepared on her wedding day. The people were putting her makeup on her, her gel and all that women wear on one of their most special days of their life. She finds out its maghrib salaah (prayer.)


"I need to do my wudhu.."

"You've got your makeup on now, you can't do that now.."

"I have to pray salaah!"


She got up and ran to do her wudhu. She washed off her gel, her makeup. Starts praying maghrib salaah.


What's the last thing she does?

She moves her head to the side to finish her prayer; "Asalaamu 'alykum warahmatulah..." the angel takes away her soul.. thats the last words that come out from her mouth..

http://www.islamicboard.com/health-s...rt-broken.html

Or even the story of Burseesah which is so shocking subhan Allaah:
http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...e-do-read.html




People like stories. So small stories and ahadith related to daily life have a great impact on that person, if they face a similar situation again - they think differently, and therefore react differently, maybe in a way which they will strive to draw closer to Allaah?


You can also narrate to them ahadith on hellfire and paradise and their reality (i.e. if Allaah created this world mixed with good/bad - it's easy and logical for Him to create a world with pure good, and pure evil in the hereafter etc) from authentic sources, and the person will be amazed. Why? Because they are recieving info from authentic sources, and you have to tell them that you are getting it from real ahadith to make them more amazed (instead of them thinking its tales from your parents or something.)



Once you show them amazing stories of great figures in our Islamic history and what they went through, they realise one time or another that the heroes of today aren't really heroes at all.. infact their just a delusion. It makes the person realise that they have to change themselves, narrate to them ahadith i.e. Allaah loves a good deed, even if it's small, so long as it's continuous.



So this person might strive on changing his/herself gradually, even if it's small aspects in their life. And then if you show them that you're teaching them in kindness, if they are ever wanting to ask a question - you can show them that you're willing to answer them with open arms, so they won't feel embarrassed.

Infact, this is something that's missing in society today - lack of trust and comfort, everyone thinks that being harsh is kool, and you have to show them that i'm ready to hear you out, and if you're ever afraid, i want to help. This will lead to them asking questions and trusting you, and if you don't know the answer - tell them you will look for it (which is a positive thing because they will realise you don't make anything up, but you are serious, and wanting to find answers from trustworthy sources. Then you can even ask here on the forums.)


Now you might not be able to change them totally, however you have given them a safety net, so even if they do fall - they have Islaam - a secure bed to fall onto. With their questions answered, and all they need to do now is walk forward.You pray to Allaah to guide them, and the best way for someone to be practising is to have muslim friends which they can always return back to, to express themselves, and to clear up any doubts are confusion they may have.

So the more contact, the better. Like i stated earlier, the time when my mate started praying Salaah more was when all the other mates did, and he felt that he HAD to and if he never - he would be the odd one out. Which encouraged him in the good.



Going all the way back to the Surah Rum issue, i only truelly understood the concept of what the Qur'an was when i understood the life of Allaah's Messenger (peace be upon him.) So you should explain that, and how revelation came down gradually in different situations, the authenticity of the Sunnah and how it's not just 'fairy tales' but based on authentic sciences etc. How Islaam was dominant and the superpower in the world for centuries, uptill the 1800's (something which the west tries to hide alot out of pride.)



You make them feel proud of being a muslim, and explaining the great benefits which come through it, how Allaah gives an easier life to those who believe, the concept of giving up something for the sake of Allaah, and Allaah replacing you with something better. The concept of Allaah never overburdening a soul with what it can't bear. Doing something for the sake of the creation at the expense of Allaah's wrath would mean that this creation would in the future turn against you also and criticise you, whereas Allaah is sufficient for you and has a great reward in store for the believers etc.



If you are able to mould them into understanding how Islaam is superior, and how falsehood will die and perish - then they'll realise that what they're upon isn't really something to strive for. Infact it's their loss, and if they strived for Allaah, it would make them winners in this life and the hereafter.



And Allaah knows best.


If you still have more questions, or unsure of what i said - please do ask.

format_quote Originally Posted by Muj4h1d4

Erm can anyone answer my question?


one question though...can women give info about Islam to men? (women and men are Muslim)

yes, they can if needed.


In the social life women participated in calling for good things, ordering that good deeds be done and forbidding bad deeds as Allah Almighty says:

The Believers, men and women, are protectors, one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe regular prayers, practice regular charity, and obey Allah and His Messenger. On them will Allah pour His Mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise. (At-Tawbah:71)