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Tornado said:
Anyways, just as a curiosity, I always wondered why the response (by muslims) to Jesus is significantly less than it would be for say Muhammad. Is it because Jesus was alive (if) so long ago? Or is it because making fun of Jesus is so normal these days?

(BTW: If Jesus really lived, I'd have a lot of respect for him)
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It is not because we have less feeling about Jesus(as). It is more because Insults against Muhammad(PBUH) are more personalized and felt as an intentional insult against Muslims alone. When we see an insult against Jesus(as) we have a tendency to say they are insulting Christianity and not actually attacking us. It is true we should not feel that way and should be equally enraged over insults against Jesus(as). But, we are human and are subject to human emotions and thoughts.
 
Perhaps they're doing it out of protest. Christianity after all considers homosexuality a sin and prevents gays and lesbians from getting additional rights.
Just a few days ago the pope compared the threat homo-and-transsexuals to that of climate change, which too is highly insulting yet nobody is saying he should keep his mouth shut.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
Perhaps they're doing it out of protest. Christianity after all considers homosexuality a sin and prevents gays and lesbians from getting additional rights.
Just a few days ago the pope compared the threat homo-and-transsexuals to that of climate change, which too is highly insulting yet nobody is saying he should keep his mouth shut.
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Why describe yourself by a sexual act in the first place?

There is Male gender and there is Female gender. There is no such thing as Gay gender.

Gay is not a sex.... its a sexual urge. Just because you have certain sexual urges doesn't change the fact that you are a Male.

I do not care what you get upto in the privacy of your bedroom but when you describe yourself by a sexual act and bring it out on the streets then I have no respect for you whatsoever. I hope you see sense someday...
 
Hamayun said:
Why describe yourself by a sexual act in the first place?

There is Male gender and there is Female gender. There is no such thing as Gay gender.

Gay is not a sex.... its a sexual urge. Just because you have certain sexual urges doesn't change the fact that you are a Male.

I do not care what you get upto in the privacy of your bedroom but when you describe yourself by a sexual act and bring it out on the streets then I have no respect for you whatsoever. I hope you see sense someday...
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Why did blacks describe themselves as blacks during the civil rights movements? The surely had other more important qualities that made them who they are?
Yep, gay is not a gender and gays are males attracted to males. What's the problem here?
Transexuals could qualify as a gender of some sort, I don't know.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
Why did blacks describe themselves as blacks during the civil rights movements? The surely had other more important qualities that made them who they are?
Yep, gay is not a gender and gays are males attracted to males. What's the problem here?
Transexuals could qualify as a gender of some sort, I don't know.
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The Blacks do not describe them by the sexual urges they have. That is a very poor comparison.

The point is why does it have to be everyobody's business to know what you are attracted to or what urges you have?

I don't need to know what you are attracted to... I don't go around telling people what I am attracted to and label myself with a sexual urge.

If you are attracted to men then that is your problem bro and I really don't need to know about it.
 
Greetings,
Hamayun said:
The point is why does it have to be everyobody's business to know what you are attracted to or what urges you have?
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It doesn't.

I don't need to know what you are attracted to... I don't go around telling people what I am attracted to and label myself with a sexual urge.
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Does every gay person you know have a big sign on them or something?

Many people don't let others know they're gay for a long time, mainly because of the hatred that exists (and is frequently on display here whenever this topic comes up).

If you are attracted to men then that is your problem bro and I really don't need to know about it.
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Are you calling someone here gay now? :?

Peace
 
Hamayun said:
The Blacks do not describe them by the sexual urges they have. That is a very poor comparison.

The point is why does it have to be everyobody's business to know what you are attracted to or what urges you have?

I don't need to know what you are attracted to... I don't go around telling people what I am attracted to and label myself with a sexual urge.

If you are attracted to men then that is your problem bro and I really don't need to know about it.
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It's not a poor comparison, thank you. You did miss the point though. The point is, that during the civil rights movement, the skin color was the reason for oppression and lack of civil rights for the black people, so they identified themselves with their sin color. Today, when black have equal rights to whites, race holds much lesser significance. For the most part, t doesn0t matter whether you're black or white anymore.
The situation with gay people is very similar.
 
I feel uncomfortable seeing two men being intimate. I find it disgusting. I am not saying that because I am a hateful person.... I am saying it because I am an honest person.

People will always find it disgusting regardless of how acceptable it becomes.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
It's not a poor comparison, thank you. You did miss the point though. The point is, that during the civil rights movement, the skin color was the reason for oppression and lack of civil rights for the black people, so they identified themselves with their sin color. Today, when black have equal rights to whites, race holds much lesser significance. For the most part, t doesn0t matter whether you're black or white anymore.
The situation with gay people is very similar.
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This is the most desent thing I have heard said about gays on this forum.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
It's not a poor comparison, thank you. You did miss the point though. The point is, that during the civil rights movement, the skin color was the reason for oppression and lack of civil rights for the black people, so they identified themselves with their sin color. Today, when black have equal rights to whites, race holds much lesser significance. For the most part, t doesn0t matter whether you're black or white anymore.
The situation with gay people is very similar.
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There we go, comparing Gay rights to the Civil rights, I think that's a bunch of loaded nonsense n really holds no facts to gain any sympathy.

u can't help it that your Black, you telling me you can't help it that ur gay? u can't avoid discrimination?

Are there public restrooms only for gays? Dogs set on them? Discriminated against publicly? Don't Gays get seats on Buses?

ru kidding, me look around u, it is freaking cool in the west to be gay...

Don't twist it...
 
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Yanoorah said:
There we go, comparing Gay rights to the Civil rights, I think that's a bunch of loaded nonsense n really holds no facts to gain any sympathy. u can't help it that your Black, you telling me you can't help it that ur gay? u can't avoid discrimination?
Are there public restrooms only for gays? Dogs set on them? Discriminated against publicly? Don't Gays get seats on Buses?
ru kidding, me look around u, it is freaking cool in the west to be gay...
Don't twist it...
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I'm not saying its the same, I'm saying there are similarities.
Discrimiantion is not only about public restrooms and bus seats.
Perhaps, but there are other places where I imagine it is very uncool to be gay.
 

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