cinema in saudi make a comeback

Fighting4Iman said:
^ the typical picture painted by the west is children who treat parents as holidays to be seen and dealt with rarely, mannerisms are completely different and unacceptable to most muslims in many ways (such as freemixing ie handshaking of opposite genders).

Honestly the music/fun live life for the thrill of it culture certainly is NOT entertwined at all with islam.

and that is what i see in the west - people living life to fulfil their desires.... getting eaten by them...


pubs every night, getting drunk for fun etc.. its sickening !
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I have never been drunk in my life thank you.

The totality of western culture is not sexual decadence and nihilistic hedonism.
 
Fighting4Iman said:
^ you know i feel sometimes people use the big picture to deflect the small problems.


EVEN if you see cinemas as a small problem that would mean a lot to me.


these days it seems like most people dont even want to recognise it as a problem.. IT IS

it should ALWAYS be avoided.


even before i knew anything about islam my dad use to hate any of us going anywhere near cinema's !
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Bro, being close-minded about things doesn't help at all. A object is never bad or good, it depends on how people use the object.

Enough said, there is nothing haraam about movies, and you have the right not to watch them. But then again, don't color everything with the same brush.

Peace
 
TrueStranger said:
Bro, being close-minded about things doesn't help at all. A object is never bad or good, it depends on how people use the object.

Enough said, there is nothing haraam about movies, and you have the right not to watch them. But then again, don't color everything with the same brush.

Peace
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I understand his point as far as the content of many western movies are concerned, many are appalling. I just don’t understand the rejection of Cinema as a medium as inherently unislamic.
 
wth1257 said:
I understand his point as far as the content of many western movies are concerned, many are appalling. I just don’t understand the rejection of Cinema as a medium as inherently unislamic.
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Its basically that in islam, the roots of problems/potentially bad things in society are usually forbidden or disliked. so if cinema created a trend of time wasting or freemixing, then cinema would be the cause of the problem and the safest solution as always is to avoid potentially harmful things rather than take risks
 
wth1257 said:
Not necessarily historical narratives, but just ordinary movies of acceptable morality, but one that placed Islam in a positive light rather than the "OMG! Da Moluems is gonna blow me up!!!" that one usually sees in so many movies.
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Out of pure interest, which movies are you thinking off?
 
wth1257 said:
I understand his point as far as the content of many western movies are concerned, many are appalling. I just don’t understand the rejection of Cinema as a medium as inherently unislamic.
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I understand his point of view as well, what i don't understand is why everything has to be seen from the "western" perspective. The West uses the media as a tool to publicize its cultural principles, ideologies, and superiority. Muslims can use the media to advertise the Islamic doctrine, way of life and superiority. Why should we have to ban and make haraam something that could be of great use to the Muslims?

There could be different cinemas for different genders. As for wasting time, how could one waste time when one is watching something that will only further educate him/her about Islam?
 
TrueStranger said:
We have a fire that is blazing and it isn't about cinemas, it is the State the Muslim nations are in. The killing, injustice, and the disunity that is taking place in the Muslim world should receive more attention than this.
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what difference does it make :? movies or division, they all affect the ummah in negative aspects
and yeah, they're are people who oppose differences, etc but the prob is, they're never heard!

We as Muslims should be able to create an environment that is clean, friendly and Islamic. Our Cinemas should not be like their cinemas, our movies should not be like their movies, our dramas should not be like their dramas, so on and so forth. If the movies are Islamic then there shouldn't be any kissing or music, or anything that is obscene. .

As i said before if Muslims created their own movies and documentaries which promoted Islamic values, and taught Muslims about Islam, then young Muslims won't have to watch movies that are created for "Western Audience".
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but it doesnt happen...and when it does (which is rare), it seen as boring/old fashioned, etc..is not about what CAN/should be done, its about WHAT IS in this time frame...and as far as im concerned bringing back cinema to Saudi or to any Muslim country is gonna have negative aspects :)

TrueStranger said:
A object is never bad or good, it depends on how people use the object.
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but unfortunately most of the time, cinemas are used in the wrong way :)
 
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Ramlah said:
what difference does it make :? movies or division, they all affect the ummah in negative aspects
and yeah, they're are people who oppose differences, etc but the prob is, they're never heard!
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There are millions of different movies, and not all of them are bad nor can you compare movies with the Muslim on Muslim violence.

but it doesnt happen...and when it does (which is rare), it seen as boring/old fashioned, etc..is not about what CAN/should be done, its about WHAT IS in this time frame...and as far as im concerned bringing back cinema to Saudi or to any Muslim country is gonna have negative aspects :)
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And what is stopping it from happening? As Muslims? You are assuming that people will label it as something boring or old fashioned. Let's stop being suspicious about everything. No God fearing Muslim brother or sister will go to a cinema with a bad intention.

but unfortunately most of the time, cinemas are used in the wrong way :)
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Any other building could be used in the wrong way, shall we destroy every building :blind:
 
Ramlah said:
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^ lol buildings are a lot more beneficial and needed...so that dont make sense :p
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A cinema is a building as well so what can we do. How about we have the Religious Police there. That would take care of things :D
 
Ramlah said:
what difference does it make :? movies or division, they all affect the ummah in negative aspects
and yeah, they're are people who oppose differences, etc but the prob is, they're never heard!


but it doesnt happen...and when it does (which is rare), it seen as boring/old fashioned, etc..is not about what CAN/should be done, its about WHAT IS in this time frame...and as far as im concerned bringing back cinema to Saudi or to any Muslim country is gonna have negative aspects :)


but unfortunately most of the time, cinemas are used in the wrong way :)
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Greek Philosophy and unorthodox Sufism also had many negative aspects to them. Greek Philosophy led to a number of heresies. Under its sway every major Muslim Philosopher from Al Kindi on claimed that the philosopher gained to same knowledge as the prophet, but through reason rather than intelligence. In fact under Ibn Rushd philosophy became intellectually superior to revelation as the Qur'an was claimed to be nothing more than a rhetorical appeal to "the masses" the lead them to a diluted version of the truth philosophers discovered. Sufism led to anti intellectualism and total disregard of the mandates of Sharia'. I think it's safe to say that both posed a greater potential danger to Islam than Cinema. Yet Al Ghazali studied these things, incorporated that which could be incorporated, and is still seen centuries later as one of Islam's greatest theologians. I don't mean this in any sort of disrespectful way, but it seems a lot of the ummah has lost the nerve and daring that led to the great achievements of Al Ghazali and other "golden age" thinkers. It reminds me of the Christian Thomas Aquinas' line in his Summa where he says God permits evil because his omnipotence is such that He can bring goodness even out of evil. It seems that the great Islamic thinkers had a similar disposition. They took unIslamic things, adapted them, and then utilized them for Islam. Classical Colonialism is over but cultural colonialism is going strong and only getting stronger. It seems like Muslims have to find ways to oppose it or American cultural hegemony will really devastate Islamic culture and ways of life.
 
Of course, much that can be said about Cinema can also be said about the internet. The amount of kufr on it is tremedous.
 
KAding said:
Of course, much that can be said about Cinema can also be said about the internet. The amount of kufr on it is tremedous.
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Exactly what I was going to say.

On the internet you can find good and bad, depending on what you're looking for. With cinema nowadays, there's more bad than good, islam wise. The concept of the cinema is not haram in itself, it is the content that is forbidden. If the content is islamically acceptable, there's no reason for watching watching a movie at the cinema to be haram.

Halal movies would be a great improvement for people who want to benefit and be entertained at the same time, but only have the movies of hollywood/bollywood to turn to.
 
subhanAllah


the internet is under control! the environment in a cinema is not!

thats the difference!
 

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