cinema in saudi make a comeback

[crayon]

That's the whole point of creating an "islamic" cinema. YOU choose the movies that are shown, YOU choose what content is acceptable and what is not, YOU choose to have the seating segregated, etc. By YOU I mean the person in charge of the cinema/s, perhaps the government in this case..

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

That's the whole point of creating an "islamic" cinema. YOU choose the movies that are shown, YOU choose what content is acceptable and what is not, YOU choose to have the seating segregated, etc. By YOU I mean the person in charge of the cinema/s, perhaps the government in this case..

A locally produced comedy, Menahi, premiered in two cultural centers in Jeddah and Taif this month before mixed-gender audiences, a taboo in Saudi Arabia whose strict Islamic rules ban unrelated men and women from mixing.

Menahi stars new comedy sensation Fayez al-Maliki as a naive Bedouin entangled in a get-rich-quickly scheme in Dubai, the region's tourism and trade hub where lifestyle is far less restricted.

thats not what they have in mind sis

the thought of even making a cinema shows how we're straying from the path

 

[crayon]

In relation to this article, then yeah, maybe it's not such a great thing for there to be cinemas here in saudi. But they are not haram in themselves, rather it's the use they're put to, that's what I'm trying to get to.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

In relation to this article, then yeah, maybe it's not such a great thing for there to be cinemas here in saudi. But they are not haram in themselves, rather it's the use they're put to, that's what I'm trying to get to.

see this is another thing i have a problem with


why do that?


it happens too many times in this forum and its so frustrating, people go to lengths to show how something can be halal only to agree the way tis used is indeed haram subhanAllah

 

[crayon]

People do that because other people are too quick to instantly label everything HARAM without looking at what it actually entails.

If I said I thought mini skirts were awesome (i don't, it's just an example), I'd probably get a million "OMG HARAM YOU HORRIBLE ****TY MUSLIM YOU", without them even bothering to think that "hey, if she only wears them when she's at home and there's no one there but her husband, that could be okay". Yes, most of the people who wear mini skirts are NOT wearing them in that case, they wear them in front of other women and men. But to instantly condemn something as haram (i means things that aren't outright forbidden like fornication, alcohol, etc.) without looking at its use is just ridiculous.

 

[KAding]

see this is another thing i have a problem with

why do that?

it happens too many times in this forum and its so frustrating, people go to lengths to show how something can be halal only to agree the way tis used is indeed haram subhanAllah

I don't understand, what about cinema makes it impossible to control? Surely, it is a lot easier to regulate and control cinema than the internet? And what about TV? How is it possible to make halal TV, but not cinema?

By banning cinema in general and with it an Islamic movies industry, you only drive bored young Muslims into the hands of Bollywood and Hollywood. Especially in a future where movies are downloaded rather than bought over the counter you'll have tremendous difficulties controlling supply.

 

[aadil77]

Some good points on the pros and cons of islamic cinema, now its just up to the saudis to decide

 

[themuffinman]

prophet muhammad clearly forbade us from being like the kaffirs, and emphasized us having our own muslim identity. it reminds me of an article written by brother anwar

Just like there is a Muslim for the sake of Allah, there is a new phenomenon of a Muslim for the sake of the disbelievers. And just like the Muslim for the sake of Allah does everything thinking what will Allah will think of me, the Muslim for the sake of the disbelievers does everything thinking what the disbelievers would think of him. So when a Muslim speaks out he does so to please Allah and when our other Muslim does not speak out he does so in order to please the disbelievers. When a Muslim fights he does so for the sake of Allah and when this other Muslim does not fight -even though he has every reason to do so- he does that in order not to displease the disbelievers. Obviously this is not expressed as such but is packaged in nice terms such as ‘this is not good for dawa’, or ‘this would turn away the people from Islam’.
Allah says: “It is not your responsibility to guide people but it is Allah who guides whomever He wills”
This Muslim is obsessed with his image in front of the disbelievers. He is so obsessed with it that it becomes his standard for wala and bara. So he loves the Muslims who present the ‘good boy’ image to the disbelievers and he despises the Muslims who give Muslims a ‘bad name’.
Rasulullah (saaws) says: One of you does not achieve full Imaan until he loves for Allah, dislikes for Allah, gives for Allah and holds back for Allah.
This Muslim is so aggressive and intolerant with his fellow Muslims but is tolerant and kind towards the disbelievers. He is an extremist with Muslims and a moderate with disbelievers.
Whenever the interests of the disbelievers are threatened or harmed by Muslims he is the first to jump to their defense. He would speak against his brothers and betray them. He may even advise Muslims to spy against one another and report to the authorities. For him fighting for Islam, and for the ummah is terrorism, but he manages to shop for a fatwa that would allow him to serve in the armies of the disbelievers and fight against his brothers. Being a Muslim for the sake of the disbelievers permeates his every action. If he meets a Muslim he frowns and if he meets a disbeliever his face beams with a smile.
Infact there are some Muslims who are so much Muslim for the sake of kuffar that they do not even like Muslims who call the kuffar kuffar!
I mentioned that this is a new phenomenon because this only came about in these later times. The Muslims of the early times would care less about the kuffar, and if they ever did it was for the sake of Allah and not for their sake.
But lets put things in proper perspective:
Allah says about the disbelievers: “They are like cattle, nay, they are even more misguided”
And Rasulullah says about the believer: “Tearing down al Kaaba stone by stone is less than shedding the blood of a Muslim”

-author- brother Anwar al awlaki
http://www.anwar-alawlaki.com/

 

[KAding]

prophet muhammad clearly forbade us from being like the kaffirs, and emphasized us having our own muslim identity. it reminds me of an article written by brother anwar

Just like there is a Muslim for the sake of Allah, there is a new phenomenon of a Muslim for the sake of the disbelievers. And just like the Muslim for the sake of Allah does everything thinking what will Allah will think of me, the Muslim for the sake of the disbelievers does everything thinking what the disbelievers would think of him. So when a Muslim speaks out he does so to please Allah and when our other Muslim does not speak out he does so in order to please the disbelievers. When a Muslim fights he does so for the sake of Allah and when this other Muslim does not fight -even though he has every reason to do so- he does that in order not to displease the disbelievers. Obviously this is not expressed as such but is packaged in nice terms such as ‘this is not good for dawa’, or ‘this would turn away the people from Islam’.
Allah says: “It is not your responsibility to guide people but it is Allah who guides whomever He wills”
This Muslim is obsessed with his image in front of the disbelievers. He is so obsessed with it that it becomes his standard for wala and bara. So he loves the Muslims who present the ‘good boy’ image to the disbelievers and he despises the Muslims who give Muslims a ‘bad name’.
Rasulullah (saaws) says: One of you does not achieve full Imaan until he loves for Allah, dislikes for Allah, gives for Allah and holds back for Allah.
This Muslim is so aggressive and intolerant with his fellow Muslims but is tolerant and kind towards the disbelievers. He is an extremist with Muslims and a moderate with disbelievers.
Whenever the interests of the disbelievers are threatened or harmed by Muslims he is the first to jump to their defense. He would speak against his brothers and betray them. He may even advise Muslims to spy against one another and report to the authorities. For him fighting for Islam, and for the ummah is terrorism, but he manages to shop for a fatwa that would allow him to serve in the armies of the disbelievers and fight against his brothers. Being a Muslim for the sake of the disbelievers permeates his every action. If he meets a Muslim he frowns and if he meets a disbeliever his face beams with a smile.
Infact there are some Muslims who are so much Muslim for the sake of kuffar that they do not even like Muslims who call the kuffar kuffar!
I mentioned that this is a new phenomenon because this only came about in these later times. The Muslims of the early times would care less about the kuffar, and if they ever did it was for the sake of Allah and not for their sake.
But lets put things in proper perspective:
Allah says about the disbelievers: “They are like cattle, nay, they are even more misguided”
And Rasulullah says about the believer: “Tearing down al Kaaba stone by stone is less than shedding the blood of a Muslim”

-author- brother Anwar al awlaki
http://www.anwar-alawlaki.com/

What does this have to do with cinema and movies exactly? What is your point exactly? That you need an Islamic movies industry? Or that you shouldn't watch movies because kaffirs do it? If the latter, are you implying Muslims can't use or do anything that is used or done by cattle, err, I mean non-Muslims?

 

[wth1257]

see this is another thing i have a problem with


why do that?


it happens too many times in this forum and its so frustrating, people go to lengths to show how something can be halal only to agree the way tis used is indeed haram subhanAllah

Perhapse they think you are "throwing the baby out with the bathwater".

One reason the Ottoman Empire fell behind Europe was the decision to ban the printing press on the grounds of its potential harm. The fear that people would use it the print the Qur'an rather than write it by hand and this would cause the respect towards the Qur'an to diminish.

They threw the baby out with the bathwater and perhapse you are doing the same thing here.

 

[themuffinman]

What does this have to do with cinema and movies exactly? What is your point exactly? That you need an Islamic movies industry? Or that you shouldn't watch movies because kaffirs do it? If the latter, are you implying Muslims can't use or do anything that is used or done by cattle, err, I mean non-Muslims?

it is referring to the quote by the prince " saudi shall not stand still while the world changed around it" ....his intention is dangerouse if he plans to adapt saudis environment to that of the west, whats to stop him from lifting the prohibition on alcohol just because the world has deemed it moral? there is a difference in progressing with in the world with good things like funding education in saudi instead of wasting money progressing in immorality with the west

 

[noorseeker]

someone close this thread down purleeese

 

[KAding]

it is referring to the quote by the prince " saudi shall not stand still while the world changed around it" ....his intention is dangerouse if he plans to adapt saudis environment to that of the west, whats to stop him from lifting the prohibition on alcohol just because the world has deemed it moral? there is a difference in progressing with in the world with good things like funding education in saudi instead of wasting money progressing in immorality with the west

So in the end it has nothing to do with whether you should or shouldn't immitate us misguided kaffirs, but simply whether what you are immitating is or isn't un-Islamic.

 

[themuffinman]

exactly...i agree that the west has sum good things to learn and imitate from like their educational system but why would u imitate the unislamic portions and call it progress?