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On the other hand, when Hamas or Islamic Jihad shots a rocket in Israel there is 20% of chance that they will kill an Arab(mostly muslim). What you think about that?
Second, nowadays 97% of Gaza citizens are muslims, the christians in majority left in last decade.

True on both counts.

Thats what I get for not keeping up with current events.


I just wish both factors would wake up and see that the majority of deaths, are innocent bystandeers. This has been a way of life now for 2 generations.

Wont somebody let Peace have a try?
 
True on both counts.

Thats what I get for not keeping up with current events.


I just wish both factors would wake up and see that the majority of deaths, are innocent bystandeers. This has been a way of life now for 2 generations.

Wont somebody let Peace have a try?
The fundi schmuck who assassinated Rabin screwed things up capitally.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-air-strikes-on-Gaza-strip-kill-hundreds.html

This bit **** me of so much, why do these guys have to continue with the **** rocket attacks, they fire hundreds of rockets and acheive absolutely nothing, and in the end the hundreds of innocent muslims lose their lives because of it.

Yes they lost their land, but they acheive nothing with their rocket attacks accept getting more muslims killed, their own rockets have misfired and killed palestinians

It's more complicated then that. I'm sorry but you and many Muslims a like are just a victim of SyOps magic. Zionists have been firing ineffective rockets for years. They have used this as a platform to kill Palestinians. Palestinians barely have food to feed there families. Most of them have probably been starving for over a decade due to blockades etc. It serves no benefit for the Palestinians to supposedly "rocket" attack Israeli territories.

The newspaper article you cited is owned by the Zionists. Obviously, when you own something, you control the flow of it. Don't be fooled by what you hear from the Media, most if not all of it is controlled. You get told half truths mixed with lies. They've mastered the art of story telling. Unfortunately their News sells and influences the minds of the masses.

My best advice is; learn Surah Al-Kahf by Heart. Only then will you not fall into the Dajjal Deception.
 
Suggested reading = "The Lemon Tree"
Starred Review. The title of this moving, well-crafted book refers to a tree in the backyard of a home in Ramla, Israel. The home is currently owned by Dalia, a Jewish woman whose family of Holocaust survivors emigrated from Bulgaria. But before Israel gained its independence in 1948, the house was owned by the Palestinian family of Bashir, who meets Dalia when he returns to see his family home after the Six-Day War of 1967. Journalist Tolan (Me & Hank) traces the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict through the parallel personal histories of Dalia and Bashir and their families—all refugees seeking a home. As Tolan takes the story forward, Dalia struggles with her Israeli identity, and Bashir struggles with decades in Israeli prisons for suspected terrorist activities. Those looking for even a symbolic magical solution to that conflict won't find it here: the lemon tree dies in 1998, just as the Israeli-Palestinian peace process stagnates. But as they follow Dalia and Bashir's difficult friendship, readers will experience one of the world's most stubborn conflicts firsthand. 2 maps. (May)
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.


Sounds interesting.

Though the only reason I brought up British was because they too attacked a newly founded nation, the same as Arabs in 1948.
 
"The Lemon Tree" really was a great read. Very well put together, I cannot recommend it enough.
 
everyone, dont forget, Hamas is a democratically elected goverment, all their police stations and headquarters have been destroyed, if this happened anywhere else, you would hear non stop about ohhh this is an attack on democracy etc, yet in Palestine they dont say anything! When Georgia was attacked all you heard was this is an attack on democracy, the same is happening in Palestine, but now its ok, sheesh, the hypocrisy of the west will never stop.
 
When Georgia was attacked all you heard was this is an attack on democracy, the same is happening in Palestine, but now its ok, sheesh, the hypocrisy of the west will never stop.

Agreed, Israel gets a free pass on pretty much everything when it comes to them "protecting themselves". "Poor little defenseless" Israel gets some firecrackers thrown over the fence and they respond with grenades.
 
Israel resumes Gaza bombardment

Israeli warplanes have resumed their air strikes on Gaza Strip, hitting targets across the territory, including a mosque and a television station.

Two bodies were retrieved from the rubble of a mosque near Gaza City's Shifa hospital early on Sunday, witnesses said.

The blast, just after midnight, blew out windows at the hospital, hospital officials said.

The studio building of al-Aqsa TV was also destroyed, but the station remained on air with a mobile unit.

Palestinians counted about attacks in the early hours of Sunday, after more than 225 people had been killed and hundreds of other injured in air raids the previous day as Israel launched Operation Cast Lead.

Ehud Barack, Israel's defence minister, has warned that the air raids could be followed by a major ground incursion into the Gaza Strip.

"We are ready for anything. If it's necessary to deploy ground forces to defend our citizens, we will do so," Barak's spokesman quoted him as saying on Sunday.

Israeli television has reported that hundreds of infantry and armoured forces were massing on the border of the territory.

No truce

Earlier Barak rejected calls for a new truce between the Palestinian Hamas movement and Israel.

"For us to be asked to have a ceasefire with Hamas is like asking you [the United States] to have a ceasefire with al-Qaeda. It's something we cannot really accept," he told Fox News from Tel Aviv.

Ehud Olmert, the outgoing Israeli prime minister, described the assault as a war on the Palestinian faction which took full control of the Gaza Strip in June 2007 after pushing out security force loyal to Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president.

Members of the Israeli cabinet say the attack was in response to an increase in the number of home-made rockets being fired into southern Israel since a ceasefire ended on December 19.

At least one Israel was killed and six other wounded in missile attacks by Palestinian fighters after the raids on Gaza began.

Carnage

Gaza witnesses reported heavy damage after dozens of missiles were fired from helicopter gunships and fighter jets on about 40 different locations in the strip on Saturday.

Many of the dead in the series of attacks were police officers, including Tawfiq Jabber, the Gaza chief of police.

The toll is expected to rise further, with bodies still lying buried under the rubble of destroyed buildings.

Hospitals, already suffering from shortages due to an 18-month blockade on the Gaza Strip, said they were struggling to cope with the number of injured, which included women and children.

Gaza is densely populated. Its 1.5 million residents were already experiencing shortages in power and basic supplies due to the siege which is widely condemned by human rights movements as a collective punishment.

'Ugly massacre'

Ismail Haniya, the Hamas leader in Gaza, called the assault Israel's "ugliest massacre".

"I call on Palestinians to remain united and together in the face of this crime, in the face of this massacre and continued aggression, targeting our soil and our citizens," he said.

Olmert, speaking in Tel Aviv on Saturday, said the operation would take time and called on Israelis to be "patient".

"The quiet we offered was answered with mayhem. Our desire for calm was answered with terror," he said.

"You are not our enemies. We do not fight against you," Olmert said in a direct address to Palestinians.

"[Terrorist organisations] are disastrous for both peoples. Israel is not fighting against the Palestinian people, and the targets attacked today were chosen with the intent of avoiding civilian casualties."

Long operation

Jacky Rowland, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Jerusalam, said: "People have been forewarned about further operations of this intesnsity for many days to come, with more sorties flown by Israeli planes and helicopters and more targets in Gaza.

"In response, more than 50 rockets were fired into Israel today. Defence officials are warning that there could be as many as 200 rockets fired every day into Israel in the days to come."

Salam Fayyad, the Palestinian prime minister in the West Bank-based government, condemned the attack and demanded an immediate cessation.

Many leaders added their voices to condemn the onslaught, including Ban Ki-moon, secretary-general of the UN, who called for an immediate cessation of hostilities.

Mousa Abu Morzouz, the deputy leader of Hamas, said: "Nobody in this world can accept what happened and the Israeli aggression ... [we expect] the international community to stand against this and say that it is not acceptable."

Mustafa Barghouthi, the former Palestinian information minister, said: "This is not an attack on Hamas. It is an attack on the whole population and the free will of the people of Gaza."

He accused Israel of committing "war crimes" and demanded that Abbas and his government stop all relations with Israel.

'Only just beginning'

The Israeli army released a statement on Saturday saying "terrorist installations" were hit and that all Israeli pilots returned unharmed.

Avi Benayahu, an Israeli military spokesman said: "The operation against Hamas is "only just beginning".

The air raids follow a breakdown of a six-month-old Israel-Hamas truce earlier this month.

The ceasefire expired on December 19, with Hamas arguing that Israel had violated the truce by preventing vital supplies from entering the Strip.

Egypt has opened the Rafah crossing with the Gaza Strip to receive injured people, Egyptian officials said. Ambulances have been sent to the crossing and two Egyptian hospitals emptied to take in the wounded.

Hamas won control of the Palestinian Legislative Council in elections in January 2005. The international community refused to accept a Hamas-led government, demanding that the faction recognise Israel and renounce violence. Economic sanctions by the EU and US followed.

Hamas took control of the Gaza Strip in June 2007 after bloody street battles against its rival, Fatah.



http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/12/20081227193910425276.html
 
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Israels Opression!

Are these the guilty ones??

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Gazans: Israel violated the truce

In June, Israeli and Palestinian leaders agreed to a ceasefire following weeks of intense fighting in Gaza.

Under the terms of the ceasefire, Hamas and its affiliates would refrain from firing home-made rockets into Israel and the latter would halt incursions and attacks on the Gaza Strip.

The Egyptian-brokered agreement also called for an easing of Israel's restrictions on the borders, thereby allowing goods into the besieged territory.

However, the fragile truce between Israel and Gaza was breached by an Israeli raid and Palestinian rocket fire on November 4.

Since then Israel has accused Gazan fighters of launching dozens of home-made rocket attacks at Israeli towns and the Hamas leadership has countered by saying Israeli air raids and military action have killed several Palestinians.

The Israeli blockade on Gaza has sparked much international criticism as precipitating a looming humanitarian crisis in the Strip.

Al Jazeera spoke to residents of the Jabalya refugee camp in Gaza about the truce, its effects, and whether it should be renewed.

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2008/12/20081218102459596978.html
 
They're firing Russian rockets, how is that gonna achieve anything but Israeli retaliation?
I'm not a law expert so I wouldn't know to whom it legally belongs.
the flippin Israelis shouldn't even be there to even begin! whats stopping them from gettin out of a place they dont belong in, in the first place. if they stay there illegilly, then serves them right!


Israel was under attack and it fought back. They targeted Hamas. It's not Israels fault Hamas put their bases inside civilian areas.
Palis are the victims, no doubt about that. But the means they're using to fight Israel make them loose credibility.
so what are they meant to do? sit back and relax! :rollseyes

Both Israel and Palestine have the right to fight.
Israel had no right to fight back, considering they're on illegal territory


may Allah ease the state of the Palestinians and make Palestine a grave for their enemies ....
 
In your opinion 1 dead from rocket = 200 dead and injured palestinians?

Latest count:

Israel: 1
Palestinians: 230 dead, over 400 wounded

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081227/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians

A few months ago I was watching this video entitled:

See Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land: Media & the Israel-Palestine Conflict
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604775898578139565

and when I finished watching it, all I could think was that Israel has two billion dollars worth of US military machines, nuclear capability, elite special operations units, thousands of soldiers and Mossad to fight against a group of teenagers throwing rocks as their only offense weapon? Talk about overkill. Israel has become the so-called "monster" they are fighting. In the end, they have become their own self-fulfilling prophecy.

What really makes my heart ache is that the U.S. mourns their 2,500 dead from 9-11 but what about the 25,000 dead (more actually) in the Middle East afterwards? Who mourns for them? I see far more women, children and innocent civilians brutalized and killed by the US and Israel than the other way around. This latest attack from Israel and the U.S.'s response to it is a classic example. How long can a people allow themselves to be mislead by a corrupt government?
 
I've watched ART (Arab Radio Television) channel this morning and they're playing Patriotic Arab Unity video clips..... maybe because of what is happening in Gaza...

Arab/Muslim unity? At the present state, "ARab/Muslim unity" is like having a snow in my country...imsad
 
everyone, dont forget, Hamas is a democratically elected goverment, all their police stations and headquarters have been destroyed, if this happened anywhere else, you would hear non stop about ohhh this is an attack on democracy etc, yet in Palestine they dont say anything! When Georgia was attacked all you heard was this is an attack on democracy, the same is happening in Palestine, but now its ok, sheesh, the hypocrisy of the west will never stop.
The very government that is firing rockets on Israel.
 
so what are they meant to do? sit back and relax! :rollseyes

Israel had no right to fight back, considering they're on illegal territory
may Allah ease the state of the Palestinians and make Palestine a grave for their enemies ....
They can do anything that doesn't involve rocketing or in any other way attacking Israel. Why don't they strike, boycott etc, what they did during the intifadas. Civil disobedience works.

Prove it is illegal.
 
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