Scores die in Israeli air strikes

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But there are a main difference since Israel is occupying land that does not belong to them. So "give away" is not the right expression but withdraw their occupation forces from another nations land. They have no right to even be there. So pack up the moving trucks and leave both the Gaza and West Bank and move the wall that is cutting their land.

And then start to talk.

"Palis will think they won the battle" - yeay right, especially the one´s died already. Is it a question of win or loose to you? Doing the right thing is a loss? There are no winners in this conflict – just losers.

Maybe the Arabs will have to get used to with the loss of Palestina, just like the Greeks had to get used to with the conquest of Bizantium by Turks.
 
But there are a main difference since Israel is occupying land that does not belong to them. So "give away" is not the right expression but withdraw their occupation forces from another nations land. They have no right to even be there. So pack up the moving trucks and leave both the Gaza and West Bank and move the wall that is cutting their land.

And then start to talk.

"Palis will think they won the battle" - yeay right, especially the one´s died already. Is it a question of win or loose to you? Doing the right thing is a loss? There are no winners in this conflict – just losers.
Those weren't my thoughts. I support full Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank and the formation of a Palestinian state. I also support that the sections of the wall that stand on the newly founded Palestinian state be moved.
 
What do you propose the Palestinians should do then?

I don't know, what I do know is that the idealized two state solution will not work, and will be opposed vehemently from both sides. No matter what happens, the bloodshed will not end. At least, until the return of Jesus peace be upon him. I just hope it's not too far ahead.imsad
 
Israeli jets target Gaza tunnels

Israeli jets have bombed 40 tunnels in the southern Gaza Strip in a second day of intense air raids aimed at forcing Hamas militants to halt rocket fire.

In the latest raids jets bombed tunnels in the Rafah area, used to bring supplies into Gaza from Egypt. Israel says they are used for arms smuggling.

Palestinians now say at least 280 people have died in the air raids.

Israel has threatened to launch a ground assault and has authorised a call-up of 6,500 army reservists.

At the UN, the Security Council called for an end to all violence in Gaza, including rocket attacks from Gaza.

Israel says militants have fired 110 rockets into Israel since Saturday.

A doctor at the Shifa hospital in Gaza City described a desperate scene, with essential medical supplies, fuel and water all running out.

Dr Khamis El Essi told the BBC that many people had been admitted with multiple injuries, such as head and back wounds. Some patients had had limbs amputated.

He said some of the injured were carers and relatives who had been sheltering in a nearby mosque hit in an Israeli raid.

The air strikes were launched on Saturday against Hamas targets in the densely-populated coastal territory, less than a week after the expiry of a six-month-long ceasefire deal with the militant group

Israel hit targets in all Gaza's main towns, including Gaza City in the north and Khan Younis and Rafah in the south.

More than 210 targets were hit in the first 24 hours of what Israel says could be a lengthy military operation.

"Israel will continue until we have a new security environment in the south, when the population there will not longer live in terror and in fear of constant rocket barrages," said government spokesman Mark Regev.

The high numbers of casualties made Saturday the single deadliest day in the Gaza Strip since Israel's occupation of the territory in 1967, analysts said, although no independent confirmation is available of the numbers killed.

Border confusion

Most of those killed were policemen in the Hamas militant movement, which controls Gaza, but officials said women and children also died.

The head of Gaza's police was among those killed.

Up to 700 others were wounded as missiles struck security compounds and militant bases, the officials added

Egypt has opened its border with Gaza at Rafah to let the injured seek treatment there.

But the Egyptian foreign minister has accused Hamas of not allowing injured Palestinians to leave Gaza to seek treatment, even though much-needed medical supplies are waiting at the nearby El-Arish airport.

In Israel, one person was killed, in the town of Netivot, some 20km (12 miles) east of Gaza, while there were reports of several Qassam rocket strikes early on Sunday.

Rockets landed in Ashdod, Israel's largest southern city - some 38km (23 miles) from Gaza - the deepest they have ever struck inside Israel, Israeli media said. No injuries were reported.

A Palestinian youth was killed by Israeli fire in the north of the West Bank during protests against the raids, medics said.

In Gaza, Palestinian officials said two people died when a mosque was hit on Saturday night.

A BBC journalist in Gaza City said a Hamas-run security and prison compound was hit by at least three missiles on Sunday morning. Hamas said all of its security compounds in the strip were destroyed on Saturday.

'Time for fighting'

At the UN, the Security Council ended emergency talks with a call for an end to hostilities, speaking of "serious concern" at the escalation of the situation in Gaza.

US ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad suggested Hamas held the key to restoring calm.

"We believe the way forward from here is for rocket attacks against Israel to stop, for all violence to end," he said.

He was implicitly backed up from Cairo by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas - whose Fatah faction is a bitter rival of Hamas.

"We could have avoided what happened," Mr Abbas said, saying the Islamist group should have renewed the ceasefire before it lapsed.

The air raids came days after the truce expired and as Israel prepares for a general election in February.

Defence Minister Ehud Barak has explained the operation in stark terms, saying "the time has come to fight".

In response the exiled leader of Hamas, Khaled Meshaal, called for a new intifada, or uprising, against Israel, while the movement's Gaza leader, Ismail Haniya, called the attack an "ugly massacre".

International reaction to the bombing has been dominated by calls for restraint.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, Middle East envoy Tony Blair and the French EU presidency all called for a ceasefire.

The Israel-Hamas truce was regularly under strain and was allowed to lapse when it expired this month.

Hamas blamed Israel for the end of the ceasefire, saying it had not respected its terms, including the lifting of the blockade under which little more than humanitarian aid has been allowed into Gaza.

Israel said it initially began easing the blockade, but this was halted when Hamas failed to fulfil what Israel says were agreed conditions, including ending all rocket fire and halting weapons smuggling.

From 1967 Israel's military occupied the Gaza Strip and Jewish settlers built communities within the territory. Israel withdrew in 2005 but has maintained control of Gaza's borders.

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Is this the beginning of a third intifada? imsad
 
At least, until the return of Jesus peace be upon him. I just hope it's not too far ahead.imsad

But the Antichrist must appear first, before Jesus Christ descend to earth...

how to recognise who's the antichrist right now?:blind:
 
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — A crude rocket fired by Palestinian militants fell short of its target in Israel on Friday, striking a house in the northern Gaza Strip and killing two schoolgirls.

The attack came as Israel sent mixed signals over its plans to respond to continuing Palestinian rocket fire. Israeli defense officials say politicians have approved a large-scale incursion into the territory once rainy conditions clear. But at the same time, Israel appeared receptive to international pressure against an invasion, opening the Gaza border Friday to allow in deliveries of humanitarian aid.

None of Gaza's militant factions claimed responsibility for the deadly attack on the house in Beit Lahiya. Gaza Health Ministry official Dr. Moiaya Hassanain said the two victims, ages 5 and 12, were cousins. Three other children were wounded, he said.

The girls were the first Palestinian civilians inadvertently killed by militants since their truce with Israel began collapsing six weeks ago. Family members and medics said they were killed by rocket fire.

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When militants strike Israel, especially if they kill a civilian/soldier, every group claims responsibility. Yet when something like this happens, not a single group claims they did it. :rollseyes

Also, I find it humorous that Iran tells muslim nations to punish and destroy Israel, yet they themselves don't lift a finger. :rollseyes
 
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Supporting Palestinians: Emotions Are Not Enough

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We should support our brothers and sisters in Palestine with money and medicine, and aid them through all legal means.

Let us at least show our protest and objection against what is going on. One wonders how it is forbidden to talk about the holocaust in Europe while a holocaust is committed against the Palestinians who have no army, no food, and no medical supplies.


Muslim scholars should come together in condemning these massacres or holocausts and revive the sense of shame in people's mind against what is going on and awaken them and all free people in the world to stand against it, not only by words but also by action.


When Will Palestine Be Back?


Palestine and Al-Masjid Al-Aqsa will be freed when we put our differences aside, unite together and become true and caring brothers. Defeat is the result of disunity and disagreement between the hearts and unity is the key to victory.


Allah grants victory for His pious slaves; victory will come when Muslims become truthful and sincere to Allah, rely only on Him fully, and supplicate to Him.


It will come when we abandon what some people are uttering that "The only way to salvation is to beg the 'powerful' countries."

Allah says, (And (you will obtain) another (favor) that you love: victory from Allah and an imminent conquest; and give good tidings to the believers) (As-Saff 61:13).


. And Almighty Allah says:


(This is because Allah has never changed a favor which He has conferred upon a people until they change their own condition; and because Allah is Hearing, Knowing.) (Al-Anfal 8: 53 ).


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Ina Lillah wa Ina ilahi raji'oon. Lets keeping those who lost their and and the families in our dua's. We should all pressure out govt's to place some pressure on isreal.
 
I pray that Allah helps the Palestinian people. imsad

For the Palestinian people:

رَبَّنَا وَلاَ تُحَمِّلْنَا مَا لاَ طَاقَةَ لَنَا بِهِ وَاعْفُ عَنَّا وَاغْفِرْ لَنَا وَارْحَمْنَآ أَنتَ مَوْلاَنَا فَانصُرْنَا عَلَى الْقَوْمِ الْكَافِرِينَ


"Our Lord! Put not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Pardon us and grant us Forgiveness. Have mercy on us. You are our Maula (Patron, Supporter and Protector) and give us victory over the disbelieving people"

Surah Baqarah; Ayat 286.
 
One thing i do not understand is...WHERE ARE THE MUSLIMS!!! No one is trying to help Palestine.

This may sound controversial but the sooner Iran has a Nuclear bomb the better!
 
One thing i do not understand is...WHERE ARE THE MUSLIMS!!! No one is trying to help Palestine.

This may sound controversial but the sooner Iran has a Nuclear bomb the better!

controversial my foot.i cant wait till they get one, they are the only ones with any guts to help the muslims anyway, the arabs can sit in their gold chairs and watch, the cowards!

........:cry: im sad...
 
controversial my foot.i cant wait till they get one, they are the only ones with any guts to help the muslims anyway, the arabs can sit in their gold chairs and watch, the cowards!

........:cry: im sad...

What makes you so sure they'll use it? When Israel attacked Lebanon, they stood still. Still, they stand still as Israel attacks Gaza. All they do is show off their huge missles during parades, perform military exercises, etc.... 'Real guts.' :rollseyes
 
controversial my foot.i cant wait till they get one, they are the only ones with any guts to help the muslims anyway, the arabs can sit in their gold chairs and watch, the cowards!

........:cry: im sad...
"they are the only ones with any guts to help the muslims anyway"
And what are they (Iran) doing?
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's only action it to tell others to take action.

Iran Orders Muslims To Defend Palestinians In Gaza
http://www.rferl.org/content/Iran_Orders_Muslims_To_Defend_Palestinians_In_Gaza/1364363.html
Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei issued on December 28 a religious decree to Muslims around the world, ordering them to defend Palestinians against Israel's attacks on Gaza,
 
What makes you so sure they'll use it? When Israel attacked Lebanon, they stood still. Still, they stand still as Israel attacks Gaza. All they do is show off their huge missles during parades, perform military exercises, etc.... 'Real guts.' :rollseyes

Taking on Israel isn't like fetching groceries. The only way the regional nations can do it is to launch a co-ordinated and concerted effort. An effort like that will almost certainly be fronted by Iran. But in order for that to happen, we need to force a change of opinion in the collective regional Arab leadership, because ousting them altogether as savoury as it may sound, isn't going to be easy.

But if there are sustained protests in all the major capitals, and the position of the leaderships becomes genuinely compromised, especially within the military, from where the chances of a coup could be enhanced, then they are likely to accede to public opinion and do something about it.

There can be no such concept as international consensus on this when the nations defining the consensus are the ones who have deep and vested interests in the security of israel. It's time we took rigid action as an Ummah.
 
I don't think israel, no matter how callous it is, would contemplate using nukes against a number of nations ranged against it. It's been almost 42 years since the 6 day war. We've had the chance to reconstitute, and now it's time for us to really complete the job. The US effectively told the UN to go hang in the run up to the Iraq war, if so, we too can unilaterally liberate the Palestinians. We don't need an imperialist sanctioned mandate for that.
 
controversial my foot.i cant wait till they get one, they are the only ones with any guts to help the muslims anyway, the arabs can sit in their gold chairs and watch, the cowards!

........:cry: im sad...

Totally agree with you.

It goes to show Countries like Pakistan and Saudi are AMERICAN PUPPETS!!

It is so frustrating, They have the power to do something but they dont.

It goes to show how we Muslims are in a dire state

The sooner Imam Mahdi Arrives the better :cry:

May Allah SWT help the Palestinians
 
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