Muslim Youths

[Olive]

Re: State Funded Muslim Schools

My point was that it's the parents choice to send their children to a private school instead of a public one, so they should pay for it themselves.e exceedingly higher
Besides, if the state decides to publically fund religious schools what's preventing it from funding elite private school, tution fees of which are much higher.

Becaues private school and religious schools are different...

Private schools are generally the ones which excel in education and religious schools uphold whatever religion that school is based on.

My point is that I don't see anything wrong with the state funded religious schools, not private schools.

 

[Tony]

Re: State Funded Muslim Schools

All walks should be represented, however the state shouldn't be expected to pay for them.

Um I disagree to an extent, speaking as an Englishman, we invited many nationalities to this country who have subsequently held our economy afloat, I think the least they can expect is to have their faith represented within education and the choice to use it. Maybe state should pay for this and and encourage economic growth when pupils receive education in an environment condusive to better outcomes. like I said its a bit idealistic but on paper it makes sense

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Re: State Funded Muslim Schools

Um I disagree to an extent, speaking as an Englishman, we invited many nationalities to this country who have subsequently held our economy afloat, I think the least they can expect is to have their faith represented within education and the choice to use it. Maybe state should pay for this and and encourage economic growth when pupils receive education in an environment condusive to better outcomes. like I said its a bit idealistic but on paper it makes sense

Muslim pupils can choose Islam for their religious studies.
Integration is what the state should work for and I don't think funding religious schools is a step in the right direction.
Bilingual or even-more-lingual teachers in public schools are a good idea though.

 

[Tony]

Re: State Funded Muslim Schools

Muslim pupils can choose Islam for their religious studies.Integration is what the state should work for and I don't think funding religious schools is a step in the right direction.
Bilingual or even-more-lingual teachers in public schools are a good idea though.

Its a good point and yes bilingual teachers could have huge impact, my kids are new in school and when Eid came and Diwali the children were allowed there own clothes for a day, but xmas is here and its holidays, plays (nativity) and parties, I think there is a compromise but in an idealistic world I still think faiths and there offspring would benefit from faith schools. For instance a Muslim child should begin salaat prayers from 7 yrs old, school could cover this. I think your idea would work, but I think mine would be perfect (ish), and I still think it should be state funded (hyperthetically).:?

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Re: State Funded Muslim Schools

Becaues private school and religious schools are different...

Private schools are generally the ones which excel in education and religious schools uphold whatever religion that school is based on.

My point is that I don't see anything wrong with the state funded religious schools, not private schools.

Well I do.

 

[Olive]

Re: State Funded Muslim Schools

Well I do.

So that's the end of our discussion?

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Re: State Funded Muslim Schools

Its a good point and yes bilingual teachers could have huge impact, my kids are new in school and when Eid came and Diwali the children were allowed there own clothes for a day, but xmas is here and its holidays, plays (nativity) and parties, I think there is a compromise but in an idealistic world I still think faiths and there offspring would benefit from faith schools. For instance a Muslim child should begin salaat prayers from 7 yrs old, school could cover this. I think your idea would work, but I think mine would be perfect (ish), and I still think it should be state funded (hyperthetically).:?

I am against public school setting up nativity plays.
You see, I just don't think the state should pay for children to learn their prayers in time..
And as I said, having Muslim children in Muslim schools will lead into more social distortion between minorities and majorities.
Besides, if the state decides to finance religous schools, it should fund all non-public schools which I am sure would be to expensive.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Re: State Funded Muslim Schools

So that's the end of our discussion?

haha, I guess so.

 

[Tony]

Re: State Funded Muslim Schools

I am against public school setting up nativity plays.
You see, I just don't think the state should pay for children to learn their prayers in time..
And as I said, having Muslim children in Muslim schools will lead into more social distortion between minorities and majorities.
Besides, if the state decides to finance religous schools, it should fund all non-public schools which I am sure would be to expensive.

We have to differ on prayer. Get your point on social distortion, yes we should be intergrated andsocially included. Again idealistically we stop building roads, wars and illegal immigration and put money into schools. Maybe have mixed schools and allow pupils of different faiths to have days or half days to study individual religions. Are we getting near a compromise my friend

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Re: State Funded Muslim Schools

We have to differ on prayer. Get your point on social distortion, yes we should be intergrated andsocially included. Again idealistically we stop building roads, wars and illegal immigration and put money into schools. Maybe have mixed schools and allow pupils of different faiths to have days or half days to study individual religions. Are we getting near a compromise my friend

That's exactly the point. The state should support tolerant, inclusive, multi-faith and at the same time secular schools.

 

[Tony]

Re: State Funded Muslim Schools

That's exactly the point. The state should support tolerant, inclusive, multi-faith and at the same time secular schools.

Ok you got me. Pleasure discussing with you. see you later on in forum. peace

 

[Iftikhar]

Multi-faith Schools

. Multi-faith Schools

• A Muslim charity In Swindon is bidding to run the first Multi-faith Muslim School for Muslim and non-Muslim children and have teachers from different faiths. An hour of the timetable each day would be dedicated to studying Arabic and the Holy Quran. Non-Muslims pupils would be able to be exempted from the lessons, but it is hoped that the majority would choose to stay in class to gain more “insight” into the Islamic faith.

• In my opinion, Multifaith school is not going to be successful because non-Muslim parents would not send their children. In the past, a plan for a Multi-faith secondary school in Westminster for 1000 pupils could not be materialised because faith groups could not come to any agreement. Now even Hindu community has set up state funded school in Harrow. Black community is also thinking of setting up its own school with Black teachers.

• According to David Lammy MP, there are still too many inequalities in the education system which prevents disadvantaged children from applying to study for a degree. British schooling is wholly responsible for the inequalities. A culture of low expectation and a lack of rigour holding these pupils back. Every child must reach his full potential regardless of his background. Justice Secretary Jack Straw MP said British society should be one which recognizes and celebrates differences. One in which we all have an opportunity to flourish, regardless of who we are or where we are from. British schooling has been trying to integrate and assimilate Muslim community through education in the name of integration. The Imams and Masajid have been playing their parts to keep Islamic faith alive, but that is not enough. British schooling does not promote global cohesion. It does not encourage dialogue and increases understanding.

• Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. They need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. They need to learn and be well versed in Arabic to recite and understand the Holy Quran. They need to learn and be well versed in Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry.
• Iftikhar Ahmad
www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

 

[Iftikhar]

Multi-faith Schools

. Multi-faith Schools

• A Muslim charity In Swindon is bidding to run the first Multi-faith Muslim School for Muslim and non-Muslim children and have teachers from different faiths. An hour of the timetable each day would be dedicated to studying Arabic and the Holy Quran. Non-Muslims pupils would be able to be exempted from the lessons, but it is hoped that the majority would choose to stay in class to gain more “insight” into the Islamic faith.

• In my opinion, Multifaith school is not going to be successful because non-Muslim parents would not send their children. In the past, a plan for a Multi-faith secondary school in Westminster for 1000 pupils could not be materialised because faith groups could not come to any agreement. Now even Hindu community has set up state funded school in Harrow. Black community is also thinking of setting up its own school with Black teachers.

• According to David Lammy MP, there are still too many inequalities in the education system which prevents disadvantaged children from applying to study for a degree. British schooling is wholly responsible for the inequalities. A culture of low expectation and a lack of rigour holding these pupils back. Every child must reach his full potential regardless of his background. Justice Secretary Jack Straw MP said British society should be one which recognizes and celebrates differences. One in which we all have an opportunity to flourish, regardless of who we are or where we are from. British schooling has been trying to integrate and assimilate Muslim community through education in the name of integration. The Imams and Masajid have been playing their parts to keep Islamic faith alive, but that is not enough. British schooling does not promote global cohesion. It does not encourage dialogue and increases understanding.

• Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. They need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. They need to learn and be well versed in Arabic to recite and understand the Holy Quran. They need to learn and be well versed in Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry.
• Iftikhar Ahmad

 

[Iftikhar]

Multi-faith Schools

. Multi-faith Schools

• A Muslim charity In Swindon is bidding to run the first Multi-faith Muslim School for Muslim and non-Muslim children and have teachers from different faiths. An hour of the timetable each day would be dedicated to studying Arabic and the Holy Quran. Non-Muslims pupils would be able to be exempted from the lessons, but it is hoped that the majority would choose to stay in class to gain more “insight” into the Islamic faith.

• In my opinion, Multifaith school is not going to be successful because non-Muslim parents would not send their children. In the past, a plan for a Multi-faith secondary school in Westminster for 1000 pupils could not be materialised because faith groups could not come to any agreement. Now even Hindu community has set up state funded school in Harrow. Black community is also thinking of setting up its own school with Black teachers.

• According to David Lammy MP, there are still too many inequalities in the education system which prevents disadvantaged children from applying to study for a degree. British schooling is wholly responsible for the inequalities. A culture of low expectation and a lack of rigour holding these pupils back. Every child must reach his full potential regardless of his background. Justice Secretary Jack Straw MP said British society should be one which recognizes and celebrates differences. One in which we all have an opportunity to flourish, regardless of who we are or where we are from. British schooling has been trying to integrate and assimilate Muslim community through education in the name of integration. The Imams and Masajid have been playing their parts to keep Islamic faith alive, but that is not enough. British schooling does not promote global cohesion. It does not encourage dialogue and increases understanding.

• Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. They need to learn and be well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. They need to learn and be well versed in Arabic to recite and understand the Holy Quran. They need to learn and be well versed in Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry.
• Iftikhar Ahmad

 

[Banu_Hashim]

Re: Multi-faith Schools

Here, in Bristol we have Andalusia Academy; a Primary and Secondary (Girls) School with an Islamic ethos. The only of it's kind in the South West. Apparently it recently received an excellent Ofsted report. (And my mum teaches there )

http://www.andalusiaacademy.org.uk/

 

[Wyatt]

Re: Multi-faith Schools

I don't think it would work if their target was to mix pupils of different faiths and have all study Islam to gain more insight into that one religion. Parents would complain that they're trying to convert their children.

I do, however, think that a muslim school that accepts children of other faiths would work.

Even as a non-muslim, I would like my child to attend an Islamic school, personally. I would also encourage my child to learn Arabic and study the Qur'an. (However, I'm yet to graduate from High School this year myself. )

 

[jenwen74]

Re: Multi-faith Schools

Here, in Bristol we have Andalusia Academy; a Primary and Secondary (Girls) School with an Islamic ethos. The only of it's kind in the South West. Apparently it recently received an excellent Ofsted report. (And my mum teaches there )

http://www.andalusiaacademy.org.uk/

Meshallah, how lovely. I live in Bournemouth and wish that my daughter could attend this school one day. I will try my best to move to Bristol!!!! Inshallah.

 

[north_malaysian]

Re: Multi-faith Schools

i was admitted to a muslim missionary kindergarten, and about 10% of my classmates were non-Muslims... all of us attended islamic education classes too... and i didnt hear of any non-Muslim parents objecting to that...

 

[Banu_Hashim]

Re: Multi-faith Schools

Meshallah, how lovely. I live in Bournemouth and wish that my daughter could attend this school one day. I will try my best to move to Bristol!!!! Inshallah.

InshAllah. Also, the Qur'an teacher is apparently very good.

 

[Wyatt]

Re: Multi-faith Schools

i was admitted to a muslim missionary kindergarten, and about 10% of my classmates were non-Muslims... all of us attended islamic education classes too... and i didnt hear of any non-Muslim parents objecting to that...

Was that in the US? :X
Sorry, I was talking about here where anyone finds anything over which to file a lawsuit.

:-[