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Greetings,

I see I've inadvertently contributed something to the thread already... :)

not long ago i did a poem regarding this subect and brother or should i say uncle as a sign of respect .uncle czgibson told me that i didnt make any sense which was probably right i then explained myself and said this is what i am intrigued by,so he replied ''ahh your just going through those periods every teenager is like that ...just chill out'' this is a paraphrase of what he said, now it either could mean two things either he is oblivious to these things and he mildy insulted me in the most diplomatic way or im mentally disturbed.

You did say you were paraphrasing, but I don't remember it like that exactly - I certainly didn't mean to insult you, so sorry if I did.

I was interested in all this stuff at one stage too. Lots of young people are. You're not mentally disturbed, you're just finding out about the world and your place in it.

Freemasons are quite interesting, but I don't believe they secretly control the world or anything like that.

Can I recommend a book?

If you like conspiracy theories, you'll love The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon.

Also, don't forget to check out one of the big conspiracy theories that was actually proven - Watergate.

Peace
 
I dont think they control the world i never said so ever,and if i have done so before then this notion clashes with my islamic beliefs....the earth and the heavens and whatever is in between them is controlled by allah
 
seems a cool book thanks uncle ....i am currently reading confessions of an economic hitman and the CIA,contras and the crack explosion two beautiful books
 
I was once invited to a gathering at a masonic temple thing, the people who rented the hall didn't know anything about masons. So anyway we were just in this boring hall, but there was another hall that wasn't licked, so obviously curious I went inside..along with a few others to check the place out. Well to tell you the truth that place just had a wierd feeling, I didn't like it. The room was strange, there was a huge lifesize chessboard on the floor, and all these other contraptions around, these strings were tied across the ceiling with with a chesspeice attached. i didn't know what to make of it.
 
Greetings,

I dont think they control the world i never said so ever,and if i have done so before then this notion clashes with my islamic beliefs....the earth and the heavens and whatever is in between them is controlled by allah

I'm sorry - I didn't mean that that's what you actually thought. In fact I'm not sure I've seen where you've written what you think all of these examples of the eye in the pyramid symbol add up to. What does it all mean, do you think?

seems a cool book thanks uncle

I hope you get round to it one day.

....i am currently reading confessions of an economic hitman and the CIA,contras and the crack explosion two beautiful books

Yes, they sound very, er, "beautiful"! :D

Peace
 
I will redirect the question at you because i have partly answered the your question

previous post :is it just a pure fascination for egyptian tradition and culture or is it more than that
is kabbalaism(madonna) built up on these teachings,the entertainment business is rigged with these symbols,do corporate businesses follow these pharaonic ideas and priniciples to construct and boost their financial status
 
During my teenage years I was a punk and dressed accordingly, I became homeless and befrended a girl (platonically). Her father took me into his huge house and allowed me to live virtually rent free for as long as I liked as part of their familly. He was a freemason and I witnessed his brother steal his business, the order took over his finances and his life style was untouched. This man had alot of money and possibly power yet he took care of me like a son. This is my experience of freemasons. May Allah bless him and guide him to the truth
 
Greetings,

Amazing story from TKTony, there. :)

I will redirect the question at you because i have partly answered the your question

previous post :is it just a pure fascination for egyptian tradition and culture or is it more than that
is kabbalaism(madonna) built up on these teachings,the entertainment business is rigged with these symbols,do corporate businesses follow these pharaonic ideas and priniciples to construct and boost their financial status

That's something you said earlier below a picture of Madonna. She's probably wearing that jacket simply because she thought it looked cool, by the way. I'm not sure there's much need to worry whether her choice of jacket says anything in particular about the nature of kabbala.

I'm not sure what you mean by "these teachings" and "these pharaonic ideas", so as to whether corporate businesses etc. use them, I haven't a clue. I doubt it, but I'm still not sure what you mean.

Something about the repeated appearance of this symbol is clearly getting to you, but what, and why?

Peace
 
As you probably know the freemasons have rituals and special customs they abide by.ancient mysteries,the hebrew cabal and other teachings were inherited by the Freemasons and symbolism is their first and foremost way to transport idea's,

ok, for example i am a muslim wanting to spread islam and i happen to have a big company,my logo includes the star and the moon,i also have two channel's ,one for dawah purposes and the other a nasheed(acapella singing) channel both these have some aspect of an islamic symbol.

Now as i am a muslim i have special laws to follow in terms of running my business,i cannot deal with interest and so on,similarly the Freemasons implement their customs on their businesses.

I believe that the most rich men in the world are freemason's,they own different sectors,the music entertainment sector,the media sector and so on.

some say these sectors act as an effective tool of manipulation to control the human being.

i disagree ,no one can control a human being to make them do something but you can influence people,control and influence have two different meanings but they also are linked.

I will give a perfect example of influence:

why wont gang culture die out in America?

the answer is simple because of the multi million pound paid rappers who promote the carrying of drugs,guns

I am sure you have heard of Jay-Z,he is a mason and i will show proof later hopefully.

the whole entertainment business is ugly,and every sane person who wants has goodness in him/her will testify to this,i as a muslim have seen things that made me disheartened and disgusted so in affect i went out to read about why are these morally wrong ideas being pushed through music,movies,magazines .etc

desensitization (repetitive images of things that corrupt the mind )

de-heterosexualization (movies and songs that tell tales of homosexual experience...perfect example ''kate perry'' ''i kissed a girl''

sexual promiscuity (an episode of desperate housewives contained a short bit about a pregnant lady at her work place who had abdominal pains so she searched online to find that to ease this pain,performing sex was one of the best way. so she lures a young man to do this.....this promotes infidelity no doubt!

abolishing religion (war on islam) the only religion that stands in the way


they are driving the human race to destruction


finally the pictures i promised:
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the pyramid hand shape and the inclusion of the eye


a great masonic teacher once said i think his name was albert pike he said we give the public heroes for them to idolize

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A concert by Jay-z and all the brain dead fans just doing what he's doing..monkey see monkey do

Here we have the future generation following a man who is the worst role model,if this carries on if we have artists and actors and actresses who are leading the youth to crap stuff then we are doomed the future of our youth is going to be gloomy

another picture of another rap artist who earns ridiculous amount of money,with viacom president tom freston

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its a culture,and i dont believe that madonna wore that jacket because its cool i dont think jay-z puts the masonic handshape because he thinks its hip

there's more to it than just style or its cool
 
there was a school in london that had a whole week about lesbian,gay and transgender history......the children where shown various video's,beautifully constructed fairytales of men falling in love with other men and the same with women and also a special adaptation of the shakespeare's romeo and juliet renamed to romeo and julian
 
I would like to share with you guys some advertisements with sexual messages...i will try my best to post less graphic pictures inshallah


Sex sells 'subliminals'



look at the S near word explosion
 
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i wont even comment on this one

some of the obvious pictures or ads come under ''desensitization'' if you like
 
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The armpit was not cropped out because it bares something that clings onto the mind and it was important that it was left as it was,with no editing...........the funny looking armpit and the slogan 'im loving it'

our society is rotting because we are being made ready to constantly fall for illusions through following desires this would then make the spiritual bond with god diminish thats their universal aim....
 
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i removed the pictures as theyre offensive,i perhaps have connected dots that wer not ment to be connected ,im not making stuff up from thin air,these things have become too common and apparent that it made me say '' what's going on''
 

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