US soldier gets life for Iraq rape

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you guys have to understand the American psyche, to us americans worse than death would be our freedom taken away so i think the life sentence is right on. id take a death penalty anyday over life sentence.we value our freedom more than anything
 
Rape is a terrible thing. I would support death penalty in his case. Bad Childhood? Give me a break, daddy whooped him as a child, so what. I used to get whooped, then I learned, hey, don't do that, he obviously doesn't want you too. I haven't got whooped in years, cause I learned the concept "don't do this, and no punishment". If he was beaten, for no reason, then sorry to him, but he isn't the only one in the Military who was, and I doubt all of them go out and rape women.
 
AntiKarateKid said:
1. It shouldn't cost that much. Take a sword and chop their head off. It's cheap and painless. :enough!:

2. I don't understand your objection to the death penalty. "God gives and takes life," well sure. But... you have killing in self defence, giving a poor man money so he can stay alive, putting a premature baby on life support, pre-emptive war etc etc.

I think you might not understand the broadness of such a statement as "only God gives and takes lives". God gave us the ability to take lives too, but only in the proper situation.

And besides, if what you say is true then how come the Old Testament had the death penalty? It seemed like a good idea to Him then huh?
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Christians are no longer bound by the Mosiac law. Other than the 10 commandment which is reiterated in the New Testament. In the book of Romans it says avenge not yourselves, vengence is mine saith the Lord. Jesus also stopped a woman accused of adultery from being stoned to death because one there was no tangible evidence and many Chrisitans myself included look at these passages as reason not to support capital punishment. Self defense and war are not the same thing as singling out a person and planning on killing them whether it be murder or execution. If I killed someone in self defense to save my life or my family I would still be down on my knees praying and asking God for forgiveness. You say just chop off their head, did you know that under Mosiac law that punishment would not be allowed as it forbids blood to touch the ground? Also executing them takes away any chances they may have of repenting of their sins.
 
ragdollcat1982 said:
Christians are no longer bound by the Mosiac law. Other than the 10 commandment which is reiterated in the New Testament. In the book of Romans it says avenge not yourselves, vengence is mine saith the Lord. Jesus also stopped a woman accused of adultery from being stoned to death because one there was no tangible evidence and many Chrisitans myself included look at these passages as reason not to support capital punishment. Self defense and war are not the same thing as singling out a person and planning on killing them whether it be murder or execution. If I killed someone in self defense to save my life or my family I would still be down on my knees praying and asking God for forgiveness. You say just chop off their head, did you know that under Mosiac law that punishment would not be allowed as it forbids blood to touch the ground? Also executing them takes away any chances they may have of repenting of their sins.
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Isn't there in the Mosaic Law a punishment for adultery/rape etc?
 
Muezzin said:
Am I the only one who thinks this sort of thing will give this scumbag the idea to write books/sell interviews and otherwise profit from this disgusting crime later on in life, under the guise of 'reformation' if required?

Like that book OJ Simpson wrote.[/QUOT


A lesson in the US jurisprudence. As a general rule a convicted criminal is not allowed to profit from there crimes. OJ was accquited of the murder is how he was able to write the book, but he did not profit from it as the Goldman family one rights to the royalites. This bum was convicted in a military court and will serve out his life sentence in Fort Leavenworth most likely. That place is hell on earth, worse than our civialian prisons. He will not be allowed to give interviews or profit in anyway from his crime and also too in American prisons child molesters and rapists tend not to have a long life span. They usalluu die "accidental deaths".
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GreyKode said:
Isn't there in the Mosaic Law a punishment for adultery/rape etc?
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Yes. If a man raped a woman he may go to her father and offer to marry her. Adultery called for death. But Jesus let a woman accused of adultery go and told her to sin no more. But in the New Testament it is warned that drunkards, adulters, forincatiors thieves etc will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. If they do not repent and change there ways they will be tossed into the Lake of Fire.
 
Yes. If a man raped a woman he may go to her father and offer to marry her.
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Is that realy how the Mosiac law is applied for rape???
 
ragdollcat1982 said:
If the woman is not married then yes the man could pay her father money and take her in marriage. I believe this is found in deuteronmy 22.
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That sounds in-moral, and retarded to me. If a man raped my daughter and came to me, well, he might get a 1-way ticket to my swamp, or death row.
 
what if the women is marriad? The article above is realy biased against the OT.
 
Zafran said:
what if the women is marriad? The article above is realy biased against the OT.
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I think if she was married it could possibly fall under being considered adultery. I usally find Wikipedia to be neutral on most matters and didnt find it biased myself. :-[
 
ragdollcat1982 said:
I think if she was married it could possibly fall under being considered adultery. I usally find Wikipedia to be neutral on most matters and didnt find it biased myself. :-[
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I found the below to be bias in the article

Rape of someone who is engaged. If she is not engaged you only have to marry her and give her father 50 shekels. No mention is made of the girl’s opinion. (Deut 22:25).
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look at this one though

Being a stubborn and rebellious son. And being a profligate and a drunkard. (stoning) (Quite a few of us might have a problem with this one)(Deut 21:18-21)
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why is the article even bringing that up. It would be intresting to see how Jews view this - pity we dont have anyone whos Jewish on this forum.
 
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Clover said:
That sounds in-moral, and retarded to me. If a man raped my daughter and came to me, well, he might get a 1-way ticket to my swamp, or death row.
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It's not so much immoral or retarded as a product of its times. Obviously much 'law' appropriate for the social context of two or three millennia ago is inappropriate today even as much remains just as relevant.
 

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