British National Party

[Blackpool]

I think they are a bunch of ignorant muppets with a 'little Englander' mentality looking back to the past rather than forward to the future. Withdrawl from the EU would be a total economic disaster.

Well, you did ask.

An economic disaster? Not neccessarily. Backing out of the EU doesn't necessarily mean backing away from Europe. It means the EU will not control British politics any longer. Once we back out of the EU then the EEC (European Economic Community) Treaty would be signed. Our Economy would be fine, and Independent from the rest of Europe.

 

[glo]

Look here for UK election results, Zafran.

And here for European results. (You can compare the results from 04 and 09 for each country)

 

[Uthman]

Under UKIP, the UK would also withdraw from the European convention on human rights. What are the implications of this?

 

[Blackpool]

Under UKIP, the UK would also withdraw from the European convention on human rights. What are the implications of this?

The Human Rights Act would be replaced with some re-ammended act. I can't remember its name. There is a flaw in the current Human Rights Act that gives rights to terrorists, criminals, racists, paedophiles under the Human Rights Act. Under the current Human Rights Act a burglar has the right to rob your house without being attacked.

 

[Trumble]

An economic disaster? Not neccessarily. Backing out of the EU doesn't necessarily mean backing away from Europe. It means the EU will not control British politics any longer. Once we back out of the EU then the EEC (European Economic Community) Treaty would be signed. Our Economy would be fine, and Independent from the rest of Europe.

Unfortunately it's that particular fairy story I don't buy into.. and neither should anybody else with any sense. One at at time..

Backing out of the EU doesn't necessarily mean backing away from Europe

Yes it does. Ask the rest of Europe.

It means the EU will not control British politics any longer.

It doesn't control British politics now, or at least it doesn't with regard to the aspects anyone gives a d**n about.

Once we back out of the EU then the EEC (European Economic Community) Treaty would be signed.

By who? We might sign it. I suppose Norway might sign it. Everybody else would be too busy laughing.

Our Economy would be fine, and Independent from the rest of Europe.

Our economy no longer can be fine "independent from the rest of Europe". Among a multitude of other reasons, the first is that one implicit assumption you are making - those all those in Europe who buy goods from us will continue to do so - is dead wrong. They won't. The second is that our bargaining power collapses. We have trade talks with the Americans or Chinese as the EU; the richest economic unit on the planet, they sit up and take notice. We have trade talks with the US or China as lil' ol' Blighty, and they walk all over us.

 

[Zafran]

Look here for UK election results, Zafran.

And here for European results. (You can compare the results from 04 and 09 for each country)

Thanks

peace

 

[Thinker]

First let me say that I abhor all that the BNP stands for but that’s the BNP. That said, here you are missing the point, the question is – why did they get the votes, votes that they have not had in the past, why did ordinary people vote for such an extreme organisation?

 

[Thinker]

why did ordinary people vote for such an extreme organisation?

In the case of the BNP I don’t believe it is the economy or MP’s fiddling their expenses, I believe it is because people think that the government is too soft on immigration. There has been a TV programme (Border Police) running for the past 7 weeks, it has shown the ‘Border Police’ arresting dozens of illegal immigrants only to let them go because the system is so politically correct, they can’t send them back unless they produce a passport (which they all destroy before they arrive) proving where they came from. Even though they admit that they are arrived in the UK hidden in lorry and admit that they are illegal immigrants and admit their country of origin, the lunatic system doesn’t allow them to be sent back. Then there’s the hordes camped in French ports risking their lives daily to get into the UK – why, because, in the words of the Mayor of Calais, Britain it too generous. That, in my opinion is why ordinary people voted for the abomination which is the BNP, it was a protest vote but nevertheless one we need to worry about.

 

[Uthman]

I'm of the opinion that the economic crisis has played a large part in the success of the BNP in these elections. The economic crisis has led to increased unemployment which, in turn, has led to increased opposition to immigrants who are 'stealing British jobs' and the BNP is, for many, the only party who take a tough enough stance on this issue.

 

[Amadeus85]

In the case of the BNP I don’t believe it is the economy or MP’s fiddling their expenses, I believe it is because people think that the government is too soft on immigration. There has been a TV programme (Border Police) running for the past 7 weeks, it has shown the ‘Border Police’ arresting dozens of illegal immigrants only to let them go because the system is so politically correct, they can’t send them back unless they produce a passport (which they all destroy before they arrive) proving where they came from. Even though they admit that they are arrived in the UK hidden in lorry and admit that they are illegal immigrants and admit their country of origin, the lunatic system doesn’t allow them to be sent back. Then there’s the hordes camped in French ports risking their lives daily to get into the UK – why, because, in the words of the Mayor of Calais, Britain it too generous. That, in my opinion is why ordinary people voted for the abomination which is the BNP, it was a protest vote but nevertheless one we need to worry about.

You are a liberal democrat I guess, so You should know that expelling illegal immigrants is against human rights. Limitting immigration based on religion or culture is against liberal democracy. In democracy there is no christian, muslim jew or atheist. There are only citizens. Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood.

 

[Rabi'ya]

The problem we face is that the BNP only use certain issues in their advertising. For example stopping unlimited immigration - I agree with. The fact that British People need more jobs - I agree with. The fact that we need a better health care system - I agree with. (Im just taking the things off the leaflet they shoved through my door)

The fact is there is much much more to the BNP than they like you to know. If I hadn't any other information regarding the BNP I might be persuaded to vote for them based on the limited info they give in their campaigning.

What's sad is that there are many peopl eout there who literally take the leaflet as truth and don't bother to research any further in to the party's background.

There are tensions running high in many areas in the UK and this again has added fuel to the fire. I think we really need to stand up against the BNP and alert people to the hidden information as best we can. I just pray that we can keep them out of office.

Whilst the BNP are now in office and hold 2 seats in representation of the British people I can say with conviction that they do not represent me for sure. and I will do anything in my power to help take the seats off them next time.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

You are a liberal democrat I guess, so You should know that expelling illegal immigrants is against human rights. Limitting immigration based on religion or culture is against liberal democracy. In democracy there is no christian, muslim jew or atheist. There are only citizens. Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood.

Why is expelling illegal aliens a violation of human rights? You probably mean asylum seekers but even they can be expelled if their lifes are not threatened in their original country.

 

[Uthman]

People on the BBC News website comment about why they voted for the BNP:

Why I voted for the BNP

 

[Thinker]

You should know that expelling illegal immigrants is against human rights.

What utter rubbish – entering illegally means they are in the country ILLEGALLY i.e. contrary to the law. And don’t give me that refugee human rights bull**** we all know that they left the own God forsaken homelands for a better life not because they had been fighting oppression and fear persecution. I don’t have a problem with that, if I were them I’d do the same thing but there is a reason why their country is in a mess and whatever that reason is, many of them want to recreate a mini version of their country in the UK. All that but not only that, the British public are asking why when they are in France, a prosperous EU country, are they risking their lives daily to get into the UK. The reason they go to the UK is because it's a 'soft touch' and that's because the political system and the morally deprived politicians only care about what wins them votes, not what is best for the country.

The reaction you are seeing is a generous and tolerant race who are fast reaching breaking point. It’s about, jobs, housing, health care, and education and the British have given and given again and the BNP protest vote is saying to the main stream parties “enough is enough”. You can feel the frustration in the words from the parent below ((http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8089142.stm ) posted above by Uthman).

“I have two children who go to state school, and education is another worrying topic. There are now 15 state schools in the UK where not one child speaks English as a first language. A fifth of state schools now have a white minority. Education will suffer if teachers are having to spend more time teaching children who don't speak English as a first language”.

Name any other country that has been as generous and tolerant to foreigners as the UK?