A strict revert potential...help plz.

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well i didnt read thread so maybe i should. but bro be careful of what yousay re other muslims faith and direction. Peace brother

Brother thing is he is right, he's not lying about them, you're lucky not to be exposed to them because they will misguide you badly. If you want to know what he is talking about, just join up ummah forums and you'll come back here shocked to see the amount of misguidence these 'perfect' muslims spread around there and the mods do nothing about it.
 
Brother thing is he is right, he's not lying about them, you're lucky not to be exposed to them because they will misguide you badly. If you want to know what he is talking about, just join up ummah forums and you'll come back here shocked to see the amount of misguidence these 'perfect' muslims spread around there and the mods do nothing about it.

Or just spend like 30 seconds on TROID/SPUBS own forums.
 
So far, from what I've read here, the Ummah are a 'cult' of Islam? Well, if they are much like the LDS Cult that was in Texas, I advise you be careful girl.

Do not do anything hasty, at the time, I think caution is the best thing you can do.
 
So far, from what I've read here, the Ummah are a 'cult' of Islam? Well, if they are much like the LDS Cult that was in Texas, I advise you be careful girl.

Do not do anything hasty, at the time, I think caution is the best thing you can do.

They're talking about a specific forum called "Ummah Forums".

The arabic word Ummah refers collectively to Muslims, and is not in reference to any kind of cult.

Just wanted to clear things up.
 
So far, from what I've read here, the Ummah are a 'cult' of Islam? Well, if they are much like the LDS Cult that was in Texas, I advise you be careful girl.

Do not do anything hasty, at the time, I think caution is the best thing you can do.

No, Ummah in this case is a message board. It is not filled with the neo-salafi cult but there are some posters who spread their garbage there daily.
 
My sista got a proposal once from a revert, when they were getting to know each other, once he pointed out that she should stop wearing lipstick..my sister was in shock, because she wasn't wearing any lipstick at all. 'I dont want my wife wearing lipstick'...
 
^Perhaps he meant in public? Which is a perfectly acceptable request, of course.
 
jazakom Allah khayr
I think he is mix of the second and the third type, he insists on wearing extreme literal versions of Islamic clothing and think that muslim must dress this clothes ,he want me to wear niqab while I am wearing tall and respectable hijab ,he was studding medicine in USA then he left his collage before graduating just because someone told him that as a muslim he have to leave country of (sherk) and imagrate to an Islamic state,he don`t want to do anything in his life other than lestning islamic lectures and stay at masjid,many things which I know that it is halal he think it is haram.

I think it`s not right to continue with him,
so plz make dua for me to find good muslim husband and dua for him too to find his soul mate.

Well as you can see, some muslims here are stricter than others and it is all relative, so by the very fact that you were uncomfortable enough with his habits to write, I would advise you to look elsewhere even if some muslims think there is nothing wrong with what he is saying. You need to marry someone who will be your healing balm against the harshness of the World and be your shoulder to cry on when you are disappointed, not be the SOURCE of harshness or disappointment (either at yourself for not changing to what he says is proper or at him for not changing to someone you more expect him to be).

Sister Amani, just a correction: As per three of the four math-habs (Haneefi, Maliki, Shafei) Niqab is optional or mostahab, not wajib. Only Hanbali math-hab regard it as a wajib (and most of the Saudi scholars are which might explain the frequency of hearing it is wajib). Even though I lean mostly towards Hanbali myself, I do agree with the majority of the math-habs on this one considering the evidence that the verse of the niqab had a specific reason in it "so that you are not known and may be harmed", which shows that niqab was a matter of protecting the women of the prophet and the important sahaba from being targeted by ambushing mushrekien.

Additionally, the sahih hadith of the prophet saying "A Muhrima (woman in haj or Omra) does not wear niqab or gloves". This goes to show that the face and hands are specifically to be shown in haj by order, and therefore are not Aawra (as in forbidden parts of the body), otherwise worship would not be appropriate showing a Aawra.

Additionally Asmaa's hadith also of the prophet telling her "A woman reaching puberty should only show this and these" and he -pbuh- pointed to his face and his hands.

Anyway, that went off on a tanget. If anonymous sister wishes to wear niqab, that is fine and good. But for a man to insist on it and getting harsh with it is not appropriate. I think though we all already agree that ditching medicine school and wanting to do nothing but listen to Islamic lectures and no work is a pretty wrong angle. This hijrah thing suggests sectarian influence like some posts suggested, but we can't judge for sure. The prophet however said clearly after Fat-H Makka "No hijra after the Fat-H". Still a minority of scholars say muslims even with nationalities of non-muslim countries should leave and come to muslim ones, but if they do so then none will be left to actually educate and influence the remaining population, or maybe as in Europe now begin to take over the population and effect its policy.

For starters how will he provide for you properly without a degree? Sitting in a masjed all day praying and hope for food and rent money? That will be like the man the prophet saw and asked about where he was getting his sustenance, and when they said his brother works and spends on him but doesn't pray that much, the prophet said "his brother is better than him". It is the duty of men to seek work and employment and benefit society.

Good luck sister and as per your request I will make duaa for you to find your dream muslim suitor.
 
Assalamoalaikum Sister,

I would ahve to say that knowing many eyptians personally i think theya re rather more ... how to say moderate as compared to other arabs. I had another egyptian friend who was not married to a revert but a local egyptian man, who wanted her to wear a niqaab, he even found a job in saudi so she would be forced to wear it but she chose to live away fromt he husband in egypt rather than live with him and wear niqab. This is an example of a perfectly happy family, they chose each other with happines and still live apart somehow.

I think that it is not a matter of whether the man is a revert or not but perhaps the beliefs you yourself have and to which extent YOU want to practice Islam. From personal experience I can say that one cannot change , unless they really want to. if you think you are already a perfect muslim, and others are perhaps ... unnecessarily strict, then you will not change your point of view.

I am rather impressed by the suitor. I also think that us born as Muslims take our religion for granted so much so that if someone else practices it well we say hes mad. remember Prophet Mohammad's ( sallaho Alaihi Wassalam) saying?Interpretation:

Remember Allah so much that people may think you are mad.

Something like that.

I think that the revert is commendable. as for he quit his study etc let me tell you i did something of the same, Alahmdolillah today my husband takes care of me and I dont have to work or anything, and we live in such comfort that people at least a decade older than us would afford to live like us, at least a decade older, Alhamdolillah. When one does something for Allah then Allah would reward them

It is all a matter of niyyat.

Have you thought, asked yourself this..

Why is he so strict?

Did it ever occur to you that he may be trying to pelase Allah as best as he can.

If someone wants to please Allah would Allah let them suffer?

I think such people like him , well, deserve like minded people, and even in the quraan it says, in Surah noor a long verse which basically means same type of men and women are for each other. good men are for good women and good women for good men and bad women are for bad mena nd bad men for bad women, something like that.


The only thing wrong here is not with him, he has tasted the halwatul imaan, he would carry on trying to please Allh as he has come out of ignorance. i must add that people who revert of their own free will have NO other goal than pleasing Allah, it is not merely following culture, or obeying parents, or appearing good, it is about pleasing Allah. they have to go against the whole system that had been fed to them since their birth. The thing wrong here is perhaps the difference of idealogy/beliefs. Or rather the method of pleasing Allah is different according to both of you.

In such a situation even if they do sometimes make mistakes Allah will eventually guide them and put them on the right path as Allah knows they were only trying to pelase Him. There are only and only rewards for people like this.

You could choose to be a part of his life and get further knowledge and great rewards or you could choose someone else, who may be stil good and also keep you happy as you two will understand each other more. In either cases, it is not the brothers fault, May Allah bless him with successes in botht he worlds, ameen. It is adiffernce of opnions among you.

May Allah give you both good spouses who would help you both increase your imaan and may you both find comfort in your life partners, ameen.
 

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