I have read that gender separation in Islamic countries..

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Whatsthepoint said:
There was a thread about homosexuality in Saudi Arabia and it quoted from the Inependent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-in-public-or-hold-hands-like-us-570584.html
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re-quoting myself:
Gossamer skye said:
Homosexuality happens.. it is acknowledged ..
there is help for those who seek to live in accordance to Islamic law..

http://www.islamonline.net/english/in_depth/homosexuality/index.shtml

I doubt however, that Muslim women were interviewed, or that the Saudi regime (as un-Islamic) as it is, has anything to do with men turning homo..

I suspect the same percentage is afflicted the world over -- as is the case with any personality disorders which affects 10%~15% of the population.. it will be 10%~15% in Saskatchewan, Maldives or Saudi Arabia..

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Yes i saw it later, apart from calling homosexuality a disorder I agree with your post.

Anyway, this thread talks about first sexual experiences, having sexual experiences with other boys in puberty doesn't make one gay or anything. the thread starter suggests gender sperataion causes more boys to have first sexual experiences with men than in places where such separation doen't exist, which is possible.
 
so far the thread starter as zero bases - only to go on whims.
 
anything is possible indeed.. and can be equally dismissed until backed up by facts, stats and data..

anything that deviates from the norm is a disorder and aberrancy.. the norm is heterosexuality not from a religious point of view but a nature point of view.. homosexuality is a deviation from the norm!
It isn't an insult it is a fact!
 
Gossamer skye said:
anything is possible indeed.. and can be equally dismissed until backed up by facts, stats and data..

anything that deviates from the norm is a disorder and aberrancy.. the norm is heterosexuality not from a religious point of view but a nature point of view.. homosexuality is a deviation from the norm!
It isn't an insult it is a fact!
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I agree, however disorder implies that there's soemthing wrong with it, like calling lefthandedness a mental disorder.
Anyway, it's a social thing, the same way lefthandedness is considered normal nowadays so is homosexuality to a certain extent, at least in the west.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
There's also the article from the independent.
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The article from the independent states that there are homos in Saudi finding freedoms in some areas, it doesn't say, homosexuality is caused because of the strictness of their govt. or of the mysterious Saudi women interviewed to confirm the fact of the matter...

If folks want to engage in sex, they'll do it regardless whether with guys or gals, and the punishment if caught and witnessed is pretty much similar!

for me it is just a sign of the time.. Homosexuality is said to be prevalent as a sign of the end, as well people making it ok by various excuses!

all the best
 
Whatsthepoint said:
I agree, however disorder implies that there's soemthing wrong with it, like calling lefthandedness a mental disorder.
Anyway, it's a social thing, the same way lefthandedness is considered normal nowadays so is homosexuality to a certain extent, at least in the west.
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Homosexulaity, Paedophilia - like lefthandedness............ok???
 
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Gossamer skye said:
The article from the independent states that there are homos in Saudi finding freedoms in some areas, it doesn't say, homosexuality is caused because of the strictness of their govt. or of the mysterious Saudi women interviewed to confirm the fact of the matter...

If folks want to engage in sex, they'll do it regardless whether with guys or gals, and the punishment if caught and witnessed is pretty much similar!

for me it is just a sign of the time.. Homosexuality is said to be prevalent as a sign of the end, as well people making it ok by various excuses!

all the best
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Salaam

I agree

peace
 
Whatsthepoint said:
I agree, however disorder implies that there's soemthing wrong with it, like calling lefthandedness a mental disorder.
Anyway, it's a social thing, the same way lefthandedness is considered normal nowadays so is homosexuality to a certain extent, at least in the west.
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It is indeed a disorder and so it was in the DSM-II.. what happened in the last 30 yrs of so isn't a progression of science but a strong lobby. s.. it is no different than any other medical psychological disorder of the same category.

Left or right handedness and homosexuality are as harmonious as underwater basket weaving.. There is no subject for comparison.

all the best
 
Zafran said:
Homosexulaity, Paedophilia - like lefthandedness............right
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I only compared it to homosexuality and yes, it depends on social attitudes towards an issue. Lefthandedness was considered inferior and it's completely normal today. I don't thnk homosexuality will ever be viewed as completely normal but attitude towards it has changed dramatically in the last decades.
 
Whatsthepoint said:
I only compared it to homosexuality and yes, it depends on social attitudes towards an issue. Lefthandedness was considered inferior and it's completely normal today. I don't thnk homosexuality will ever be viewed as completely normal but attitude towards it has changed dramatically in the last decades.
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Maybe Paedophilia is next - social attitudes may change on the issue - making it ok????
 
Whatsthepoint said:
I only compared it to homosexuality and yes, it depends on social attitudes towards an issue. Lefthandedness was considered inferior and it's completely normal today. I don't thnk homosexuality will ever be viewed as completely normal but attitude towards it has changed dramatically in the last decades.
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I assume that you mean attitudes in the west. Some have changed but a lot haven't. Teenagers refer to something they don't like or isn't cool as gay, hardly a ringing endorsement !

Strangely the OP hasn't returned to defend his drivel (he is also an example of western anti-gay attitudes).
 
Whatsthepoint said:
I only compared it to homosexuality and yes, it depends on social attitudes towards an issue. Lefthandedness was considered inferior and it's completely normal today. I don't thnk homosexuality will ever be viewed as completely normal but attitude towards it has changed dramatically in the last decades.
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the reason homosexuality was legalised in Britain was not because it was deemed a moral and good deed but to prevent Russian commies from taking over UK due to British Secret service being full of queers was more prone to sell out when blackmailed by commie agents
 
Abubakar said:
I assume that you mean attitudes in the west. Some have changed but a lot haven't. Teenagers refer to something they don't like or isn't cool as gay, hardly a ringing endorsement !

Strangely the OP hasn't returned to defend his drivel (he is also an example of western anti-gay attitudes).
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salaam

Yeah this is true - when I was in school - calling someone Gay was like swearing at them.
 
Abubakar said:
I assume that you mean attitudes in the west. Some have changed but a lot haven't. Teenagers refer to something they don't like or isn't cool as gay, hardly a ringing endorsement !
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That's true in Eglish spakign countries, however I believe the acceptnce is nevertheless increasing there as well. It's language evolving, even gays use gay as a synonym for bad.
 
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