i am a born again, evangelical christian

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I didn't expect to meet a terrorist and extremist at this forum. But, since i met, here goes a apropriate answer :

"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free." (9:5)
Do you see now how Quran is offensive to non-muslims?

As you know Life is valuable, and nothing should be taken for granted! We have (been given) brains- let us use them.
From a Muslim point of view, our brain is a bounty and a miracle from Allah. Therefore, not to use our brain is to be unthankful to Allah! Let us think about Islam.

You may not like what we have to say; you may become angry, depressed or saddened by hearing what we have to say. For that we apologize in advance, but all this is for your own good. It is like taking a poisonous sweet away from an unsuspecting child. The sweet is harmful, but the child may not understand this and will not like the sweet being taken away from it.
Our intention is not to hurt you at all, but to guide you and save you and future human generations from a life of needless pain and suffering.

Before we embark on our journey to enlighten you, please understand these certain logical rules:


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What is humanism?

Islamicity
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Statistics about World Religions

Philanthropists in History

World Peace Project for Children

Quotations from famous Humanists

Universal Declaration of Human Rights


1) If Allah is a God, He is the most sensible and the most strong being in the Universe. In this respect:

If a religion does not make sense for many sane people, it cannot be a religion from God. Therfore, Islam (Allah's religion) must make sense in every way.
Allah cannot be hurt in any way by human's. (Humans are different from God; They are vulnerable and can be hurt)
Allah cannot and does not depend on Humans for anyone, therefore He does not need worship. This is in conjunction with the first rule, that He cannot be hurt if we dont worship Him. Niether can He benefit from our worship in ANY way. If humans are the ones who need to worship Him, it doesnt make sense for Allah to punish them if they dont worship Him. This is an extremely important point, please go over it again and if you have questions, ask us.
2) If Allah was a God and Quran was God’s message:

Allah would make sure that Quran would contain miracles and signs that could never have been created by a false prophet.
Allah would not include rules in His religion that could be conceived as “bad” by sane humans
3) If a man claims that he is a messenger of God, he may be lying. It is very important to verify his claims, before we can beleive him. He might only be wanting to control people or have other motives. If we allow ourselves to be a fooled by a false prophet, we risk making the real God unhappy.
4) For the above reason, many false religions have been created in the past, and the God claimed in these religions is not the same God as the real God.
5) If Islam is not true, then not beleiving in Islam does'nt mean that one doesnt beleive in God. In other words, you can still believe in God without being a Muslim.

If you disagree with any of these rules, please send us a message and tell us what you think. Please be sure to mention which rule you dont agree with and why.
Let us be honest with our own beliefs: We no longer believe in any religion, and in our opinion, all religions are only creations of man.

We know you will not to like to hear this but the truth is that Mohammed was not a prophet of god. He was not telling the truth when he said he was receiving revelations from god.
All he wanted to do was to control the population. That is what he did, by creating Islam.

Dear brothers and sisters, we have all the evidence and reasoning to know that:

Allah is not a god, but an imaginary character created by Mohammed.
Mohammed was not a prophet of god
Quran is not from god and it is not a divine book. Neither does it contain any valid miracles.
World scientists also agree with us and they have come to the conclusion that there is no divine content in the Quran.

Think: Could it not have been possible that Mohammed was pretending to be a prophet of God?
Remember rule 1 above! If Allah is a god, he is the most sensible being in the Universe. Therefore, do not be afraid to think and question Islam! If Islam was from God, it could face all the questions in the Universe without any problem.
So fear not, dear friend!

We are with you and if at any point, you have questions to ask, please do not hesitate to question us by using the contact form. We will answer your questions and place the answers in the FAQ section and will let you know that your question has been answered.
 
"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free." (9:5)



As you know Life is valuable, and nothing should be taken for granted! We have (been given) brains- let us use them.
From a Muslim point of view, our brain is a bounty and a miracle from Allah. Therefore, not to use our brain is to be unthankful to Allah! Let us think about Islam.

You may not like what we have to say; you may become angry, depressed or saddened by hearing what we have to say. For that we apologize in advance, but all this is for your own good. It is like taking a poisonous sweet away from an unsuspecting child. The sweet is harmful, but the child may not understand this and will not like the sweet being taken away from it.
Our intention is not to hurt you at all, but to guide you and save you and future human generations from a life of needless pain and suffering.

Before we embark on our journey to enlighten you, please understand these certain logical rules:

1) If Allah is a God, He is the most sensible and the most strong being in the Universe. In this respect:

If a religion does not make sense for many sane people, it cannot be a religion from God. Therfore, Islam (Allah's religion) must make sense in every way.
Allah cannot be hurt in any way by human's. (Humans are different from God; They are vulnerable and can be hurt)
Allah cannot and does not depend on Humans for anyone, therefore He does not need worship. This is in conjunction with the first rule, that He cannot be hurt if we dont worship Him. Niether can He benefit from our worship in ANY way. If humans are the ones who need to worship Him, it doesnt make sense for Allah to punish them if they dont worship Him. This is an extremely important point, please go over it again and if you have questions, ask us.
2) If Allah was a God and Quran was God’s message:

Allah would make sure that Quran would contain miracles and signs that could never have been created by a false prophet.
Allah would not include rules in His religion that could be conceived as “bad” by sane humans
3) If a man claims that he is a messenger of God, he may be lying. It is very important to verify his claims, before we can beleive him. He might only be wanting to control people or have other motives. If we allow ourselves to be a fooled by a false prophet, we risk making the real God unhappy.
4) For the above reason, many false religions have been created in the past, and the God claimed in these religions is not the same God as the real God.
5) If Islam is not true, then not beleiving in Islam does'nt mean that one doesnt beleive in God. In other words, you can still believe in God without being a Muslim.

If you disagree with any of these rules, please send us a message and tell us what you think. Please be sure to mention which rule you dont agree with and why.
Let us be honest with our own beliefs: We no longer believe in any religion, and in our opinion, all religions are only creations of man.

We know you will not to like to hear this but the truth is that Mohammed was not a prophet of god. He was not telling the truth when he said he was receiving revelations from god.
All he wanted to do was to control the population. That is what he did, by creating Islam.

Dear brothers and sisters, we have all the evidence and reasoning to know that:

Allah is not a god, but an imaginary character created by Mohammed.
Mohammed was not a prophet of god
Quran is not from god and it is not a divine book. Neither does it contain any valid miracles.
World scientists also agree with us and they have come to the conclusion that there is no divine content in the Quran.

Think: Could it not have been possible that Mohammed was pretending to be a prophet of God?
Remember rule 1 above! If Allah is a god, he is the most sensible being in the Universe. Therefore, do not be afraid to think and question Islam! If Islam was from God, it could face all the questions in the Universe without any problem.
So fear not, dear friend!

We are with you and if at any point, you have questions to ask, please do not hesitate to question us by using the contact form. We will answer your questions and place the answers in the FAQ section and will let you know that your question has been answered.
 
sorry, but i don't talk to extremists and terrorists who wish me to burn.

have a nice day.


I was referring to the hellfire
I am the most peaceful person u will meet, read my poetry to see my veiw on terrorism, your a foul and degenerate being who came spouting false pretences, youve been busted. I am a peace lover, but u come to my english house, in a country that has lost sons and duaghters to terrorists and I will terrify you, yes i am extreme, terrorist i am not, now pack your halfbaked plans and ideas with ur half baked personality and get off this forum u weirdo
 
btw. before the quran was written, how did Allah be known ?

Through the more than 40,000 prophets Allah sent to this earth starting from the prophet Adam. Also through the true message of the holy books sent to the jews and christians.
 
sorry, but i don't talk to extremists and terrorists who wish me to burn.

have a nice day.

Actually whether on not we wish you to 'burn' doesn't matter, because it is part of our beliefs that non muslims will burn in hell, so you can't be calling us all extremists and terrorists now can you? its up to you whether you believe you're going to burn
 
Also if you carry on trying to preach evangelism on this Islamic board you will be banned

You can question our beliefs but do not preach yours from anti islam sites
 
Actually whether on not we wish you to 'burn' doesn't matter, because it is part of our beliefs that non muslims will burn in hell, so you can't be calling us all extremists and terrorists now can you? its up to you whether you believe you're going to burn

we, christians, do believe as well, that all unbelievers, that do not accept jesus christ as lord ans saviour, will pay for their own sins, and will go to hell. But i would never wish you, or anyone else, that end. you can visit as many christian boards, and NEVER find a christian wish you that.
 
we, christians, do believe as well, that all unbelievers, that do not accept jesus christ as lord ans saviour, will pay for their own sins, and will go to hell. But i would never wish you, or anyone else, that end. you can visit as many christian boards, and NEVER find a christian wish you that.

its not what i said
 
I was referring to the hellfire
I am the most peaceful person u will meet, read my poetry to see my veiw on terrorism, your a foul and degenerate being who came spouting false pretences, youve been busted. I am a peace lover, but u come to my english house, in a country that has lost sons and duaghters to terrorists and I will terrify you, yes i am extreme, terrorist i am not, now pack your halfbaked plans and ideas with ur half baked personality and get off this forum u weirdo

oh shure, you are such a peaceful person , you proove it right again...
 
no muslim ever would want a person to suffer in hell - thats why we are telling you Jesus pbuh isnt God/son of God - theres no trinity and Jesus pbuh didnt die for anybodies sins.

You may not like what we have to say; you may become angry, depressed or saddened by hearing what we have to say.
 
Welcome to the forum, Adonai. :welcome:

I too would describe myself as a born-again Christian.
If you are interested in communicating with Muslims on this board and learning about their faith I suggest you perhaps spend some time just browsing the forum. :)

Hang out a bit, and you will find your feet.
 
i see what ur doing, you cannot draw me in any further, I asked you to bring proof that christianity is right, you couldnt, instead you called me a terrorist, you to yours and I to mine. I will not respond to you attempts at perverting the light any further. May Allah see fit to open your eyes to the truth, Ameen.
 
looking at ur first post..i believe you came here to find the truth cuz ur feeling confused abt urself and ur faith..

i wanna learn more...

just tell me how can Jesus be God and son of God at the same time?
 
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Welcome to the forum, Adonai. :welcome:

I too would describe myself as a born-again Christian.
If you are interested in communicating with Muslims on this board and learning about their faith I suggest you perhaps spend some time just browsing the forum. :)

Hang out a bit, and you will find your feet.

thanks, Bro. Nice to see other christians at this board.
 
oh shure, you are such a peaceful person , you proove it right again...

Listen to me carefully u hypocrite.you insult someone for stating his beliefs about hell which parallel yours and then you call him a terrorist when he responds to ur insult.

Also get out your delusion that we wish hellfire for u. We wish you to be guided but If you reject the truth then god will punish u. Further many Christians wish hellfire for Muslims so get out fr under your rock.
 
thanks for increasing my faith in Islam..

as you can see from the link how contradictory the bible is of itself..just to quote an example from the link you pasted above...you just searched on the web and wikianswers is the source you rely on to answer my question..not your own true knowledge??

Bible says Jesus is not God

Matthew 19
17, Mark 10:18
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

and in another place the bible says Jesus is God...

3. Why does John the apostle state that Jesus was the Word which was God that became flesh (John 1:1,14)?

On the other hand you don't find any contradictions in the Holy Quran...if you do please enlighten me cuz i'd be glad to clear your doubts
 
what??! He is talking about heaven and hell. Just as pagans were condemned to hell in the bible. Don't be a fool.

tell me, where he's talking about heaven and hell ?

How anyone gives credit to the bible is a mystery to me, it has been warped and changed that many times due to male influences and socio-economic perversion to keep poor and low in their places, the bible has become somewhat of a farce which is why its followers have to burn my friend.

he says we have to burn.
 

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