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A new question.
While I believe that not only Christians but Muslims also (correct me if I'm wrong) believe that Allah not only created everything, but also is the sustainer of all creation, my question is about WHY does Allah continue to sustain his creation?
Is it primarily because (A) having created it that Allah is obligated to sustain it?
Or is it because (B) Allah actually has need of his creation and therefore needs to sustain it?
Or is it because (C) for whatever reason, though Allah has no need to sustain it nor any obligation to sustain it that Allah simply wills to sustain it? And Allah knows best.
Perhaps you don't like any of my suggestion and care to suggest your own?
While I believe that not only Christians but Muslims also (correct me if I'm wrong) believe that Allah not only created everything, but also is the sustainer of all creation, my question is about WHY does Allah continue to sustain his creation?
Is it primarily because (A) having created it that Allah is obligated to sustain it?
Or is it because (B) Allah actually has need of his creation and therefore needs to sustain it?
Or is it because (C) for whatever reason, though Allah has no need to sustain it nor any obligation to sustain it that Allah simply wills to sustain it? And Allah knows best.
Perhaps you don't like any of my suggestion and care to suggest your own?
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God has no needs.. we need God.. everything that functions on its 'own volition' functions through the will of God.. He is the sustainer of life
(7:172) When thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam from their loins, their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves, (saying): "Am I not your Lord (Who cherishes and sustains you)?" They said: "Yea! we do testify!" (this), lest ye should say on the Day of Judgment: "Of this we were never mindful."
(10:31) Say: "Who is it that sustains you (in life) from the sky and from the earth? Or who is it that has power over hearing and sight? And who is it that brings out the living from the dead and the dead from the living? And who is it that rules and regulates all affairs?" They will soon say, "Allah." Say, "Will ye not then show piety (to Him)?"
(6:59) With Him are the keys of the Unseen, the treasures that none knoweth but He. He knoweth whatever there is on the earth and in the sea. Not a leaf doth fall but with His knowledge: there is not a grain in the darkness (or depths) of the earth, nor anything fresh or dry (green or withered), but is (inscribed) in a Record clear (to those who can read).
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I am curious as you allege you've read the Quran, all these basic questions are answered therein
(7:172) When thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam from their loins, their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves, (saying): "Am I not your Lord (Who cherishes and sustains you)?" They said: "Yea! we do testify!" (this), lest ye should say on the Day of Judgment: "Of this we were never mindful."
(10:31) Say: "Who is it that sustains you (in life) from the sky and from the earth? Or who is it that has power over hearing and sight? And who is it that brings out the living from the dead and the dead from the living? And who is it that rules and regulates all affairs?" They will soon say, "Allah." Say, "Will ye not then show piety (to Him)?"
(6:59) With Him are the keys of the Unseen, the treasures that none knoweth but He. He knoweth whatever there is on the earth and in the sea. Not a leaf doth fall but with His knowledge: there is not a grain in the darkness (or depths) of the earth, nor anything fresh or dry (green or withered), but is (inscribed) in a Record clear (to those who can read).
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I am curious as you allege you've read the Quran, all these basic questions are answered therein
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God created us to worship Him . It does not mean God depends on us or if we don't worship Him or take other diety , it will harm Him in any way.
God also fixed specific time for all . In the meantime till death , God provides water , air , food , family , partner & other things . May be , so that we can understand His mercy & show our gratitude for all His blessings.
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God created us to worship Him . It does not mean God depends on us or if we don't worship Him or take other diety , it will harm Him in any way.
God also fixed specific time for all . In the meantime till death , God provides water , air , food , family , partner & other things . May be , so that we can understand His mercy & show our gratitude for all His blessings.
And Allah knows Best
So many muslims believe that Mohammad's name was mentioned in the Holy Bible.
I have read that Mohammad's real name was Kotham Halabi ibn Abdullah and that his mother Amina called him KOTHAN. His grandfather changed his name to Mohammed.
Is this a commonly know fact?
I have read that Mohammad's real name was Kotham Halabi ibn Abdullah and that his mother Amina called him KOTHAN. His grandfather changed his name to Mohammed.
Is this a commonly know fact?
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Only on your fundie sites that also teach you about the 'moon gods' and so if you desire to be in your ignorant state of bliss, it is best to do it with like minds!
Lovely answer and I know you so love quotes but here your condescension reminds me of two:
The jawbone of an ass is just as dangerous a weapon today as in Sampson's time. (Richard Nixon)
Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt (Mark Twain) (probably)
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pithy phrase back so soon?
Pithy Phrase is a walking compendium of famous quotations and wise adages. Of course, he will never add anything original to the discussion, but because most discussion forums communicate through email he can take his time to thumb through books of quotes and find les mots justes for every situation. Er...didn't Winston Churchill say, "It's a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations."? Digital forums are a gift to the slow witted (I said that)
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So, it seems that best response to Follower's post is that no one on this board has heard of that story he relates regarding Muhammed (pbuh), and it therefore seems best to ignore it.
But I have what I hope are a couple of simple questions about Muhammed's name.
1) I've taken to spelling it Muhammed. I've also seen Muhammad and Mohammed. Are these equally acceptable, or is there a preferred spelling?
2) Muhammed is often known simply as "The Prophet", and I've sometimes seen Rasul and Kamil. I'm assuming these latter terms are also nicknames. Are there other nicknames and what do they mean?
But I have what I hope are a couple of simple questions about Muhammed's name.
1) I've taken to spelling it Muhammed. I've also seen Muhammad and Mohammed. Are these equally acceptable, or is there a preferred spelling?
2) Muhammed is often known simply as "The Prophet", and I've sometimes seen Rasul and Kamil. I'm assuming these latter terms are also nicknames. Are there other nicknames and what do they mean?
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Rasul means messenger in Arabic.. comes from risala which means message, Kamil means complete.. kamil il'akhlaq.. means someone with impeccable manners..
No one bothered reply to 'follower', since he is happier making up stories and believing them.. one thing for him to believe his lies and another thing for us to dignifiy it like it had a sliver of credibility ..
This is how Mohammed is written with a damma over the meem, a fatha over the 7a, shadda maftooha over the second meem and sikoon over the dal.. whichever way you write it in English really doesn't matter!
No one bothered reply to 'follower', since he is happier making up stories and believing them.. one thing for him to believe his lies and another thing for us to dignifiy it like it had a sliver of credibility ..
This is how Mohammed is written with a damma over the meem, a fatha over the 7a, shadda maftooha over the second meem and sikoon over the dal.. whichever way you write it in English really doesn't matter!
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but which spelling comes close to the Arabic one - Mohammed (pbuh) or Muhammed (pbuh) ? To me , u sounds makes it more closer to Arabic pronunciation than o sound.
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but which spelling comes close to the Arabic one - Mohammed (pbuh) or Muhammed (pbuh) ? To me , u sounds makes it more closer to Arabic pronunciation than o sound.
I guess it is a matter of preference.. like folks who spell mustapha as such or mostafa as such.. neither is incorrect.
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Good to know. I'll quit trying to correct people who spell it "incorrectly" in English, as I guess I was the one who was wrong in thinking that there was a preferred English form.
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The following is from Imam in another thread
While it is a long quote, I wanted to be sure to include all of the context before posting my question.
Also, though ultimately my question is about interpretation of a couple of phrases from the Qur'an -- the "So peace is upon me" and "So peace on him" phrases from above. It really isn't so much about the interpretation of the verses that Imam provides, nor where he points that resulting in giving a different understanding then of the deaths of both John and Jesus than one would have if reading just the Bible. My question has to do with why that would be the assumed interpretation. Let me back-up and give some of the context from which my question comes.
The phrase in question "So peace on him/is upon me" seems to be critical to Imam's understanding that Jesus and John must have been born in and subsequently died peacefully. (Please, don't jump to assuming this is a discussion of whether or not Jesus was crucified or John was beheaded. It is not.) And I don't speak/read Arabic, but may I assume the word behind these passages is salaam? A word related to the Hebrew word "shalom". This word I know, and am aware that while it certainly does mean "peace", that it isn't exclusively about peace that means the absence of violence. I understand it to also be about a deeper peace, a peace that comes from God's presence, from being a participant in the divine will and a citizen of God's kingdom, or from living in the promise of knowing that even if we don't see peace in our time that God's ultimate plans for this world not only will not, but cannot be thwarted. And that, even in violent times, can and has given people a sense of peace.
So, with that background for context, my question has to do with why (assuming that the word behind the text is salaam) the understanding of the peace that is upon Jesus and John has to do merely with this projection of non-violence in their birth, death, and raising up and not with the greater peace that comes from knowing that one is in the will of God. The latter seems to me, a non-Arabic reader, to seem to make even greater sense and application for one who is known as a prophet of Islam.
(Note: I know that even if one accepts this other understanding of peace that it does not mean that Jesus and John did not also die peacefully in the vernacular understanding of that term as well.)
Ultimately, I guess my question is twofold:
1) Does the Islamic understanding of peace not include this understanding of peace that is more than just the cessation of violence, but that is also a result of the justice and righteousness that accompanies the establishment of God's order and will being done in the world?
2) Does the Islamic understanding of peace not include experiencing peace in one's own life because of one's confidence in the sovereignty of God to bring this world that he is creating into fruition so that we can live in that peace even before we fully experience it?
While it is a long quote, I wanted to be sure to include all of the context before posting my question.
Also, though ultimately my question is about interpretation of a couple of phrases from the Qur'an -- the "So peace is upon me" and "So peace on him" phrases from above. It really isn't so much about the interpretation of the verses that Imam provides, nor where he points that resulting in giving a different understanding then of the deaths of both John and Jesus than one would have if reading just the Bible. My question has to do with why that would be the assumed interpretation. Let me back-up and give some of the context from which my question comes.
The phrase in question "So peace on him/is upon me" seems to be critical to Imam's understanding that Jesus and John must have been born in and subsequently died peacefully. (Please, don't jump to assuming this is a discussion of whether or not Jesus was crucified or John was beheaded. It is not.) And I don't speak/read Arabic, but may I assume the word behind these passages is salaam? A word related to the Hebrew word "shalom". This word I know, and am aware that while it certainly does mean "peace", that it isn't exclusively about peace that means the absence of violence. I understand it to also be about a deeper peace, a peace that comes from God's presence, from being a participant in the divine will and a citizen of God's kingdom, or from living in the promise of knowing that even if we don't see peace in our time that God's ultimate plans for this world not only will not, but cannot be thwarted. And that, even in violent times, can and has given people a sense of peace.
So, with that background for context, my question has to do with why (assuming that the word behind the text is salaam) the understanding of the peace that is upon Jesus and John has to do merely with this projection of non-violence in their birth, death, and raising up and not with the greater peace that comes from knowing that one is in the will of God. The latter seems to me, a non-Arabic reader, to seem to make even greater sense and application for one who is known as a prophet of Islam.
(Note: I know that even if one accepts this other understanding of peace that it does not mean that Jesus and John did not also die peacefully in the vernacular understanding of that term as well.)
Ultimately, I guess my question is twofold:
1) Does the Islamic understanding of peace not include this understanding of peace that is more than just the cessation of violence, but that is also a result of the justice and righteousness that accompanies the establishment of God's order and will being done in the world?
2) Does the Islamic understanding of peace not include experiencing peace in one's own life because of one's confidence in the sovereignty of God to bring this world that he is creating into fruition so that we can live in that peace even before we fully experience it?
I believe Imam was speaking of the similarities and so on, not a specific meaning for Salaam other than peace.
the other point, yes, applying God's commands and guidance in this world leads to Salaam/peace, this peace is not entirely symbolic though, it is actual peace.
if it isn't, then we are doing something wrong/not following as we should.
the other point, yes, applying God's commands and guidance in this world leads to Salaam/peace, this peace is not entirely symbolic though, it is actual peace.
if it isn't, then we are doing something wrong/not following as we should.