The true religion.

salaam

if there weren't an after life then frankly it is a perfect waste to spend your time arguing your feelings on an Islamic forum?
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well said Gossamer skye Its just weird that atheists dont believe in God/ the after life yet still come on an Islamic forum to discuss about? not very rational.
 
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Gubbleknucker said:
Sarada, that sounds like Pantheism with a collective consciousness.
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I became a Pantheist at my mother's knee. Hinduism and Pantheism have much in common. Hinduism has become a personal choice, but there are many other options. For me, the Abrahamic religions do not make the grade.

O, and I forgot one other important criteria, NO PROSLETYZING. Did I spell that word right?
 
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Gubbleknucker said:
I did say it required a redefinition of God.
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dictionaries are meant to be concise.. there is no pointing in amending it, any more than there is a point to re-interpret religion to accommodate an angry few.


Not if I enjoy it :D
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Vain discourse seems to epitomize the hedonistic doctrine of atheism...
the body doesn't know of futile cycles and neither should the mind..

all the best
 
proselytizing to that
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will probably take alot more than being overtly confident!
 
Gubbleknucker said:
Then how do you explain the appendix? My mother almost died when hers burst...
and she seems to function just as well without it.
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Appendix has a function, according to Duke University study


Posted Oct 06, 2007 at 06:09PM by Rio S. Listed in: Science Tags: Duke University Ó
30 QJ We have long wondered what the appendix is there for. We may have reached the end of the debate as a group of immunologists and surgeons from the Duke University Medical School think they've found the appendix' function.

Some thought that worm-like tube (located just where the the large and small intestine meet) had something to do with lymphoid cells while others thought that it became useless through evolution and has no function at all - making the appendix almost synonymous with vestigial. Vestigial organs are those that don't seem to have a function, like the tonsils for example, though many vestigial organs have been struck off the list as we find out that they *do* have functions.

The study from the Duke University Medical School produced a theory: the appendix "acts as a good safe house for bacteria." According to surgery professor and study co-author Bill Parker, the appendix' location in the digestive system supports the theory and it actually acts as a factory for good bacteria.

Imagine this, you get cholera or amoebic dysentery, all the useful bacteria dies off as a result. Then what? You need to get some good bacteria back. In modern society, you can pick those up from other people but imagine what it would have been like in the past when the entire region gets infected and the population wasn't so dense? According to the study, that's when the appendix kicks in; it "reboots" the digestive system's good germs.

Inflamed appendices should still be removed, according to Parker, since they can turn deadly once they pop. Makes one wonder though, are there any other differences between those who had their appendix removed and those who still have theirs? Because if there are any more, this writer's in trouble.
 
Sarada said:
Well chosen picture! A representation of God destroying the demon Ignorance!
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I thought you'd be pleased.. I found that Hindus don't like this:


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as much as the former..

all the best
 
Zafran said:
Dont the Brahamins reject the idea of images of God?
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No. You may worship God any form or in His/Her formless aspect.

Generally Vedantins worship God as formless by choice.

The Arya Samaj, however, maintains that God is formless.
 
Sarada said:
No. You may worship God any form or in His/Her formless aspect.

Generally Vedantins worship God as formless by choice.

The Arya Samaj, however, maintains that God is formless.
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Hindus also have a the class system where some people pray with forms whilst the the higher classes dont? Is that true?

If God is formless why do people worship the images?
 
Zafran said:
Hindus also have a the class system where some people pray with forms whilst the the higher classes dont? Is that true?

If God is formless why do people worship the images?
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The caste system as it is practiced in India is abhorrent. It is, however, not based on religion but it is a cultural construct.

Whether you pray using a statue or a picture, or pray to God in His/Her formless aspect, depends on your level of spiritual development, and perhaps your mood at the time.

We do not worship idols. We use pictures and statues as a means of focusing on God when we pray or meditate. We do not believe that these pictures or statues are God, any more than you would believe that a picture of Barack Obama his the man himself.
 
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Sarada said:
The caste system as it is practiced in India is abhorrent. It is, however, not based on religion but it is a cultural construct.

Whether you pray using a statue or a picture, or pray to God in His/Her formal aspect, depends on your level of spiritual development, and perhaps your mood at the time.

We do not worship idols. We use pictures and statues as a means of focusing on God when we pray or meditate. We do not believe that these pictures or statues are God, any more than you would believe that a picture of Barack Obama his the man himself.
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right but how do you know these pitcures look like the God? who decides? what are the pitcures based on - are they based on religous scripture? - do they have the descriptions?

isnt the caste system in the Vedas - that the humans were made from different parts of the body? lowest from the feet?
 
Sarada said:
What a beautiful picture of my Sri Ganesh-ji. The Remover of All Obstacles, and the one who wrote down the Mahabharata, who contains the sorrows of the Universe in his belly.

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/article/ganesha/
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I am glad that posting pictures of your gods doesn't offend you as you so had us believing by your earlier posts...

all the best
 
Sarada said:
The caste system as it is practiced in India is abhorrent. It is, however, not based on religion but it is a cultural construct.

Whether you pray using a statue or a picture, or pray to God in His/Her formless aspect, depends on your level of spiritual development, and perhaps your mood at the time.

We do not worship idols. We use pictures and statues as a means of focusing on God when we pray or meditate. We do not believe that these pictures or statues are God, any more than you would believe that a picture of Barack Obama his the man himself.
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A means of focusing on God? So you could use absolutely anything as a means to focus on God, anything from a piece of chalk to a Michael Jackson poster. Is this due to lack of imagination or for those that just have the craving desire for a visual aid?

Even though anything can be used as a visual aid it's still does not qualify as idol worshipping when a man-made statue with flutes, heads of animals, multiple arms, red lipstick and such is used for rituals and bowing? Odd.
 
Zafran said:
right but how do you know these pitcures look like the God? who decides? what are the pitcures based on - are they based on religous scripture? - do they have the descriptions?

isnt the caste system in the Vedas - that the humans were made from different parts of the body? lowest from the feet?
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Yes there are descriptions of the various forms of God in the many different scriptures that are part of Hinduism

The Vedas describe four VARNAS which are based on a person's capabilities and occupation and are not hereditary.

Brahmin, spiritual leader, teacher
Kshatriya, soldier, police, those who protect society
Vaishya, merchants, farmers, craftsmen, etc.
Shudra, servants
 

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