Oppressions toward Muslims Worldwide

NEVER ENDING SUFFERINGS OF RAUHINGYAS

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By Editor • April 13, 2009

Rauhingyas now are in desperate state. They are labeled as foreigners and unwanted in their own country or land which is in Arakan, Myanmar. Everyday, they are oppressed and their rights are denied by the Junta of Myanmar. Many of them are forced to leave their lands in Arakan in order to protect themselves from being killed and to save their faith.

Some of them are stranded in Bangladesh, India, Thailand, and Malaysia. Let us hear the news about their fate. Zain Abdul Ghani interviewing brother Abdul Ghani Abdul Rahman, the vice president of Rauhingya Information Center (PPR) in Seri Kembangan, Selangor, Malaysia on 27th March 2009.

What is your role in PPR in Kuala Lumpur? Who is actually the leader?

I am trusted as the vice president while the president is Haji Mubarak Abu Bashar.

What is the name of the place where you were originated in Arakan before it is absorbed into Myanmar?

I was born in Mrauk-U, in the district of Montagung in Arakan. It is now in Myanmar.

Can you tell us what is the historical background of Myanmar?

Burma (Myanmar) gained Independence from British in January 4th 1948. Before colonized by British, my homeland, which is Arakan is a kingdom with Muslim kings such as Sulaiman Shah (Narameklah), Zafar Shah, and Hussein Shah. They are among those who ruled before British came in 1824. When British came, our kingdom which is Arakan was included into Burma and remains so till today. Before that, we in Arakan lived peacefully with Buddhists known as Rakhaine. The sufferings of Rauhingya began since 1978 due to the brutality of Burmese Junta. As the implication, few hundred thousands of us have to seek refuge in neighboring countries and most of us living in poor conditions. Among the refugees too, some had seek refuge in Bangladesh near the border of Burma while half others crossing the border of Burma to India. Rauhingyas facing famine, and diseases in refugee camps. In the border of China-Burma, Rauhingya women were selled as hookers.

What can you bring to us as a prove on the existance of Rauhingya in Myanmar? For example artifacts or masjids?

We are the Muslim community who had lived in Western Myanmar fow hundred years. History proved our existance. We also have a kingdom with kings, also we have our own currency and our own national flag. Other proves such as mosques in Arakan. They are not functioning anymore and many of them had been destructed. In my village, Mrauk-U, there are two Jami mosques and they are quite famous. They are Masjid Sandhi Khan and Masjid Musa and they were destructed when all of the Muslims were transfered to other area.

How many Rauhingyas still living in Arakan today?

It is about 1.5 million. Those who seek refuge in Malaysia mostly live in Klang Valley and few other states.

Why the Junta do not like Rauhingyas?

A matter that they hate the most about us is that we are Rauhingyas and Muslims. They are trying to gradually exterminate us. Since 1990's the regime of Myanmar leaded by General Than Shwe had took off the citizenship of Rauhingyas who live in Arakan. We are syatematically being denied as rightfully citizens of Myanmar. In the same time, there many evil acts and inhuman acts executed on Rauhingyas.

As what had happened in Bosnia in 1993?

Yes, we were denied the right to visit our relatives dwelling in other villages, our mosques were destructed, our children were denied from entering educational institution and many other non-sensical rules imposed on us. We are pre-conditioned to get permission before marrying, and the permission only validated after few years. Our movement is limited. We need permission to stop by at other villages, and our rights for facilities of education and medical treatment too are denied. As "foreigners," we aren't allowed to work as teachers, doctors, and giving our service to community. In Rauhingya Provinces, the teachers are the Rakhine Buddhists. Myanmar Junta had prevented us from receiving education that should been received by every citizens. Raping and force works happens in Arakan and they also threatened us. The army asking money from us and if we refuse to pay, we will be seized and tormented. Rauhingyas too received oppression in practising their religion. It is impossible for them to get any permission to repair or even to build mosque in their region. For the past three years, 12 mosques in Northern Arakan were destructed and the biggest destruction happened in 2006. Since 1962, there is no new mosque build and religious preachers were imprisoned for the guilty of repairing their mosque.

Can you tell us more about Rauhingya ethnic?

We live in Arakan since before British colonized Burma in 1824. We have our own kings or sultans and for your information, I'm a descendent of Parin dynasty of Arakan. As what had been mentioned earlier, Arakan is actually an independent kingdom and a country on its own. After we gain the independence, many things changed. Once upon a time, we have Rauhingya figures in Central stage, such as Bo Maung (a Muslim). He is a Rauhingya and at that time he was appointed the representative of Rauhingyas by the king of Burma.

What is your hope as a representative of Rauhingya Information Center on Malaysian government?

We hope that Malaysian government continue supporting us and supporting the UN (UNHCR) to immediatelt processing 3000 more applications for refugee pass in Malaysia. We, the Rauhingyas in Malaysia hope that the ASEAN summit conference in Bali, Indonesia on 14-15 April will bring a positive decision. I believe that the foreign minister of Myanmar (a general) will be present and they will certainly accuse the representatives who symphatized the Rauhingyas. As a representative of Muslim Rauhingyas, I had met the PM of Malaysia and also hope that the new leaders will continue supporting us. We had circulated the pamphlet about our history to the government of Indonesia and informing the Indonesian leaders about our status back in Myanmar. We also have the proves that we were once recognized in Myanmar and being parliamentary members of Myanmar around 1962. Four of our parliamentary members are Sultan Mahmud, Abdul Ghafar, Abul Bashar, Muhammad Sultan, and Shamsul Anwarul Haq. Sadly, Shamsul Anwarul Haq now is imprisoned and he is punished with imprisonment for 45 years. He is found guilty because Muslim can't join any political chess in Myanmar.

How many houses of Rauhingyas being destructed?

What I know is that, the houses in five villages around Kawalon (Mondrapronge), Pungnamrong, Alizay, Aungdine, and Nyoungbongziy were all destructed. All of the villages inhabited by Rauhingyas were transferred and we are forced to live in Buddhist villages in Mrauk-U province. Our lands were looted and given to Burmese who are the Buddhists. Our mosques were destructed.

Is there any struggle with the regime?

Yes, there are struggles between us and the regime. Some of us who opposed them or objecting them were cut-off their tongue with scissors. We are prohibited from entering the mosque, we can't wear the attire that showing we are Muslims. They prohibited us from keeping the sunnah such as having beard or covering our heads with kufiah.

Back to Rauhingya refugees, there is a report that there are about 18, 000 of them here in this country...??

In Pulau Pinang, there are about 3000 of Rauhingya, in Perlis 2000, Johore 1, 600, Malacca 300, Negeri Sembilan 350, in Pahang 1, 100, and in Kelantan there are about 200 people. The rest living in Klang Valley.

What is the hope of Rauhingyas who remain in Arakan?

They have no hope, they just wait for the final day when G-d destroy the Universe for the dooms day. Even, we who are the refugees here too have nothing to be done. We hold the UNHCR card and nobody wants to accept us as employees. If there are those wo are working in your country, they still have to move elsewhere so it is not easy to consistently work. If we can get the job and systematically doing jobs, maybe we can send some money to our relatives in Arakan. However, I still find ourselves as lucky. We can easily move anywhere with UNHCR card. Say if I'm hungry, I still can move to the restaurant searching and buying for food in any grocery shop here. The Rauhingyas in Arakan are still restricted from moving. They still can't move out from their village to buy food even if they have the money in their hand, this matter saddened my heart. About the people from five villages in the province where I'm originated from, I'm not certain where they are now. I've only heard the news that many of them died in refugee camps near Bangladesh border. The camps there are in poor condition without clean water supply. They only get water source from sea, and it's not suitable for consumption. The facilities there in Bangladesh too are in poor condition. During night, they said that villains will attack them. Many of their daughters being raped and refugees are murdered by villains.

Recently I had heard that Rauhingya refugees were chased away to the sea by Thailand without any food supply. They were left in the middle of the sea by Thailand authority until being saved by Indonesian government in Acheh maritme area. Those are among the difficulties faced by Rauhingyas. In our own country, we aren't recognized as citizen, while abroad we aren't favored by certain countries. I would like to thank your country for accepting us.

Back to Malaysia, do you have any suggestion to develop Rauhingya community?

As for now, we had become the object of trading. For example, on what I regret the most, the schools for Rauhingya refugees (there are five of them) too received assiatance from Buddhist association. So I wonder that where is the assistance from Muslim associations that had come before? I'm so sad that the Buddhist association who provided helps had imposed few conditions such as: "we don't have any teachers to teach Arabic, we only can give assistance in teaching, Science, Maths, English, and Malay." While we are Muslims and Arabic is actually crucial and related to our religious studies. That's why that I wonder why isn't there any help from Muslim association or council. I also would like to express my dissatisfaction toward charity boards including non-Muslim charity board who took the opportunity using Rauhingya's name to get donation and organizing certain programs to gain benefit by using us.

What is your hope on our government for the benefit of Rauhingyas in Malaysia?

Rauhingyas are divided into 9 sub-ethnics. Any assistance should only coming through the legal councils for the sake of Muslim Rauhingya refugee community. I still remember that during our registration process around 2003-2005, I'm among the person appointed by the UN to execute the job. But after the process, the UN office is transferred to Gombak and many things happened. Many groups too aren't satisfied with the process.

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On the other hand, the UN wants Malaysia accepting all refugees from various countries, estimated around 28,000 people. Malaysia can't accept all of those refugees and it would be a burden toward her citizens. Rauhingyas are accepted because they are "stateless" and not recognized by their own country. They integrated well with native Muslims, easily learning Malay language due to Islamic background, and the most important thing is they have no criminal record.
 
Some visual about Rauhingya refugees in Bangladesh and those who were chased out from Thailand

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Actually you have to check Hindu-Buddhist sources when you want to determine their ethnicity. Even we, other SEAns too can trace our ethnicity from ancient India sources. Those Rauhingyas are the mix of native negritos and the mughal soldiers from East India. They are just the same people with Rakhine (Buddhist), like Malay and Orang Siam of South Thailand.
 
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Actually you have to check Hindu-Buddhist sources when you want to determine their ethnicity. Even we, other SEAns too can trace our ethnicity from ancient India sources. Those Rauhingyas are the mix of native negritos and the mughal soldiers from East India. They are just the same people with Rakhine (Buddhist), like Malay and Orang Siam of South Thailand.

There are so many theories about the origin of the Malays:

1) The official one: descendants of Deutero-Malays migrated from Yunnan province in China.

2) Descendants of Indians mixed Chinese.

3) Descendants of Thais who are converted to Islam.

4) Descendants of Alexander the Great (I think this is applicable to those with royal blood)

5) Descendants of Ketura, the third wife of Prophet Abraham.
 
i hope this is not offensive to anyone?

Why the Rohingyas look like Bangladeshis? Not like us? (southeast Asians)
Look like Bangladeshis ?. Rohingyas are Bangladeshis.

Myanmar govt (and people) oppress them because Rohingyas are catagorized as 'people from other place', not Burmese/Myanmarese.

And Rohingyas's homeland is in western/Northwesten Myanmar, near Bangladesh.
 
Look like Bangladeshis ?. Rohingyas are Bangladeshis.

Myanmar govt (and people) oppress them because Rohingyas are catagorized as 'people from other place', not Burmese/Myanmarese.

And Rohingyas's homeland is in western/Northwesten Myanmar, near Bangladesh.

are there many Rohingyas in Indonesia.. we have lots of them here... and they managed to build their own islamic schools here... which is cool
 
They have their own kingdom in West Myanmar known as Arakan. The Arakan kingdom had been there since BC Era, and after British Imperial power left the area, the kingdom is included into Burma. During Moghul period in India, those Muslim soldiers from Bangladesh area entering the land and marrying the locals just like the opening of Syria to Islam.

Burma on the other hand is another kingdom, the Tibeto-Burman ethnic came from Lower Tibet plateau and they had defeated other earlier Tibeto-Burman people or the Pyu ethnic who had earlier established a kingdom called Shrikshetra in present Burma. After that they moved to neighboring kingdoms owned by the Mon, defeated them and absorbing them into their realm.

Now Myanmar/Burma only recognize Rakhine (Buddhist Arakanese), while Rauhingya (Muslim Arakanese) are not recognized and oppressed. They told outsiders who are not aware of the ancient history in the region that Rauhingyas are Bangladeshi to disown them from their kingdom :raging:.

The problem is almost or just the same with what our brothers in Patani Province of Thailand facing. Patani is a Muslim kingdom that co-exist with other ancient kingdoms of Northern Malaya since the early centuries. The Patanese king ancestors (Muslim Mon) had embraced Islam spread by Achehnese Muslim missionaries and abandoned previous Buddhism faith after guided by Allah SWT. But when British Imperial power falsely included into Thailand in the Treaty to trade us in Kedah, Kelantan, and Terengganu, those Patanese were then oppressed and the Central Thai government trying to assimilate and make them turn to Buddhism again with force.

"Lands" of Thailand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3pL5YB1VrY&feature=related

Thai audio about Siam "lands"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n9Jb6AJGKk&feature=related

I hate Thai politics the same like I hate the politics in Malaysia but I respect the Emperor of Thai.

Khmer "Empire"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHAxota5O5c

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Concerning Malay or any other ethnics whether they are Muslim or not, I'm comfortable to hold the fifth theory:

5) Descendants of Ketura, the third wife of Prophet Abraham.

The first human civilization is believed to began in Mesopotamia in Iraq today. Might be from there human moved in flow to other region since different ages and being various kind of different ethnics. We can elaborate this with what Allah told us in Quran which human are all brothers. Only human made ideology such as racism separates us and making us scratching each others face. Islam oppose this and teaching us to respect everyone through the Creed of One G-d and the final revelation to prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Other than that, I've got reports from International Ethnologists who made researches through languages link, local ancient history, and classical texts that actually Northern Malays from the state of Kedah, Perlis, Kelantan, and Terengganu are the mix of Mon ethnic and native Malay. Mon* ethnic are of Austroasiatic group which descended down from West China and East India in ancient time. Mon ethnic have their own states in Lower Burma, and one of the area which is Mortaban is a Muslim area. Other Mon people are believed to be living all around Thailand including in Nakhorn Sri Thammarat in South Thai. Other ancient Mon kingdom is in Central Thailand near Bangkok today, their kingdom which is Phra Nakhorn Dvaravadi that exist since 500 AD was destroyed by Angkor Empire from Cambodia around 9th C.

I've seen many Rauhingyas in Butterworth and also in Georgetown of Penang. They always founded roaming around and some of them are begging for money in the bus. I don't know what happened to their welfare in this country and what had been done by the staffs of UNHCR. Well, we should actually help them according to our ability as a responsibility in religion but seeing children and ladies begging is not a favorable scene.

* Mon ethnic: Their language is non-tonal from Austroasiatic (Mon-Khmer) group. Those in South which live around the trans-border of Malayan Peninsula are now mixed with Malays and becoming devout Muslim while some still being Buddhist all over Thailand. They are the native of Siam Empire (Orang Asli Siam) who had established great kingdoms before Tai (Thai) ethnic entered South Thai in 12th C.
 
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They have their own kingdom in West Myanmar known as Arakan. The Arakan kingdom had been there since BC Era, and after British Imperial power left the area, the kingdom is included into Burma. During Moghul period in India, those Muslim soldiers from Bangladesh area entering the land and marrying the locals just like the opening of Syria to Islam.

Burma on the other hand is another kingdom, the Tibeto-Burman ethnic came from Lower Tibet plateau and they had defeated other earlier Tibeto-Burman people or the Pyu ethnic who had earlier established a kingdom called Shrikshetra in present Burma. After that they moved to neighboring kingdoms owned by the Mon, defeated them and absorbing them into their realm.

Now Myanmar/Burma only recognize Rakhine (Buddhist Arakanese), while Rauhingya (Muslim Arakanese) are not recognized and oppressed. They told outsiders who are not aware of the ancient history in the region that Rauhingyas are Bangladeshi to disown them from their kingdom :raging:.

The problem is almost or just the same with what our brothers in Patani Province of Thailand facing. Patani is a Muslim kingdom that co-exist with other ancient kingdoms of Northern Malaya since the early centuries. The Patanese king ancestors (Muslim Mon) had embraced Islam spread by Achehnese Muslim missionaries and abandoned previous Buddhism faith after guided by Allah SWT. But when British Imperial power falsely included into Thailand in the Treaty to trade us in Kedah, Kelantan, and Terengganu, those Patanese were then oppressed and the Central Thai government trying to assimilate and make them turn to Buddhism again with force.

Concerning Malay or any other ethnics whether they are Muslim or not, I'm comfortable to hold the fifth theory:



The first human civilization is believed to began in Mesopotamia in Iraq today. Might be from there human moved in flow to other region since different ages and being various kind of different ethnics. We can elaborate this with what Allah told us in Quran which human are all brothers. Only human made ideology such as racism separates us and making us scratching each others face. Islam oppose this and teaching us to respect everyone through the Creed of One G-d and the final revelation to prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Other than that, I've got reports from International Ethnologists who made researches through languages link, local ancient history, and classical texts that actually Northern Malays from the state of Kedah, Perlis, Kelantan, and Terengganu are the mix of Mon ethnic and native Malay. Mon* ethnic are of Austroasiatic group which descended down from West China and East India in ancient time. Mon ethnic have their own states in Lower Burma, and one of the area which is Mortaban is a Muslim area. Other Mon people are believed to be living all around Thailand including in Nakhorn Sri Thammarat in South Thai. Other ancient Mon kingdom is in Central Thailand near Bangkok today, their kingdom which is Phra Nakhorn Dvaravadi that exist since 500 AD was destroyed by Angkor Empire from Cambodia around 9th C.

I've seen many Rauhingyas in Butterworth and also in Georgetown of Penang. They always founded roaming around and some of them are begging for money in the bus. I don't know what happened to their welfare in this country and what had been done by the staffs of UNHCR. Well, we should actually help them according to our ability as a responsibility in religion but seeing children and ladies begging is not a favorable scene.

* Mon ethnic: Their language is non-tonal from Austroasiatic (Mon-Khmer) group. Those in South which live around the trans-border of Malayan Peninsula are now mixed with Malays and becoming devout Muslim while some still being Buddhist all over Thailand. They are the native of Siam Empire (Orang Asli Siam) who had established great kingdoms before Tai (Thai) ethnic entered South Thai in 12th C.

wow... you're so good in SE Asian History.....

So from Arakan down to Penang.. we (Burmese, Thais and Northern Malaysians) are from the same people? The Mons?
 
Hehe :D I had met few Muslim Malays who are not proud of their identity so I made decision to make my own researches by reading classical texts whether it is form Muslim source or non-Muslim source, learning Mon language and Sanskrit while also consulting scholars to ensure about our position in history. We need them to make sure that we don't receive the same fate like our Rauhingyas, Palestinians, Patanese, and other brothers or sisters.

Well, we are the same people with some Thais, and Burmese. I had few quarreling with some American Buddhist Khmers before who claimed us and accusing us as hijacking their territories, insulting our South Thai brothers as Terrorists just because they are Muslims, insulting us with Swine and actually those South Thais are terrorized on their ancestral lands by non-Muslims. They are not the Terrorists while the real colonizers are them, I mean the non-Muslim Khmers.

We are brothers to Achehnese too in the term of religion and also inter-marriages. As to say, those Muslims in Pasai at that time were Terrorized by native Hindus. The missionaries in Northern Malaya came from Pasai (Acheh), where they seek refuge under the native Buddhist king in Patani before they taught the Buddhist king about Islam. After that, the native people themselves became the defenders of Islam and really love Islam with all of their heart. Now, I hope Muslims don't look down on each other and always helping in defending Islam. I regret that there are Muslims who still looking down to others like what I had experienced during my Pilgrimage in Mecca. We are equal in the view of Allah SWT, the different of status only in Taqwa.
 
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Hehe :D I had met few Muslim Malays who are not proud of their identity

sounded so like me... :p


so I made decision to make my own researches by reading classical texts whether it is form Muslim source or non-Muslim source, learning Mon language and Sanskrit while also consulting scholars to ensure about our position in history.

Mon and Sanskrit? you're genius!!!:thumbs_up

We need them to make sure that we don't receive the same fate like our Rauhingyas, Palestinians, Patanese, and other brothers or sisters.

so we should stop calling ourselves Malays? I think one political party would not allow us to do that... we're like 20% of the "Malay" population.

Well, we are the same people with some Thais, and Burmese. I had few quarreling with some American Buddhist Khmers before who claimed us and accusing us as hijacking their territories, insulting our South Thai brothers as Terrorists just because they are Muslims, insulting us with Swine and actually those South Thais are terrorized on their ancestral lands by non-Muslims. They are not the Terrorists while the real colonizers are them, I mean the non-Muslim Khmers.

are you talking about the Cambodians?

We are brothers to Achehnese too in the term of religion and also inter-marriages.

my late paternal grandfather is of Acehnese origin, and Acehnese themselves are mixed people (Sumatran+Arab+Indian+Turkish+Persian).. he was so tall... when I was a kid.. i thought he's like a coconut tree...he's taller than my father and all my aunts and uncles.. I am 184cm, i think that he's taller than me too...:exhausted


Now, I hope Muslims don't look down on each other and always helping in defending Islam. I regret that there are Muslims who still looking down to others like what I had experienced during my Pilgrimage in Mecca. We are equal in the view of Allah SWT, the different of status only in Taqwa.

it happened at home too.... towards muslim immigrants from Indonesia and Bangladesh...:enough!:
 
are there many Rohingyas in Indonesia.. we have lots of them here... and they managed to build their own islamic schools here... which is cool
I hope no one will blame or angry to Indonesian govt.
Indonesian govt sent them back to Myanmar, although Muslims people, mainly in Aceh, wish Indonesian govt accept them become Indonesian citizen.

I can't,... no,...no,... in exactly I'm afraid to imagine what would Myanmarese govt do to those Rohingyas, after they back to their home.
 
Oh BTW, we don't consider Malays as different people. They are natives in Southern Malaysian Peninsula and our native languages actually is preserved in local Malay dialects.

Those Jakun aboriginal tribe in Pahang, Orang Laut in Johore, and few others are native Malays, only some of them are non-Muslim and nowadays Muslim associations trying to teach them about Islam and helping them to gain more confidence in themselves and to guard their lands from being deceived and hijacked by any parties or taking advantages from them. We need to educate them with Islam and later letting them manage themselves according to their understand in the scripture taught. Sadly Muslim associations have irresponsible people who only being there in the associations to get free money and zakat but are not sincerely striving to help teaching those poor people with religious knowledge. There are also people without any religious qualification and understanding about the aborigine customs joining the mission and giving bad names to Islam with their irresponsible and ignorant attitude.

There are also Christian mission reaching them, mostly from Sabah and I guess there are people in government who support them. We can't blame them for preaching, they have their rights. Those aborigines too have the right to choose what they want to believe. We only teach but Allah guides.

The reason why people in here are known as Malays is because of the ancient invasion of Srivijai Hindu empire around late 700 AD. Srivijaiya is a kingdom with a dynasty called Shailendra who gain power in South Sumatera around 700 AD. Shailendra was a Buddhist dynasty in Srivijaiya empire, I mean their ancestors are Kambujas of ancient Iron-Age India who dwell in SEAn region and being kings and later their descents married local.

In Hindu Law scripture of Manu, the Kambujas are regarded as Barbarian tribes categorized under Warrior Lords back in ancient India and their homeland was in Central Asia before they entered ancient India and later moved to Malayan Peninsula and other regions like in Cambodia (Kambuja), Lower Burma, and Thailand in ancient time.
 
I hope no one will blame or angry to Indonesian govt.
Indonesian govt sent them back to Myanmar, although Muslims people, mainly in Aceh, wish Indonesian govt accept them become Indonesian citizen.

I can't,... no,...no,... in exactly I'm afraid to imagine what would Myanmarese govt do to those Rohingyas, after they back to their home.

Nobody to be blamed. Indonesian government had already helped those poor people when they were chased by Thai authority. That's is considered as good enough. Maybe Indonesian got false information about those people, and Myanmar Junta should be blamed for this. They oppressed the Muslims without we realize it since they closed the door for foreign media. Even Buddhist monks from Mon ethnics of Lower Burma too were brutally killed, I don't know what else will happen to those Rauhingyas when they arrive home :skeleton:.
 
Cambodia got her name from Kambuja ancient Indian tribes who became kings there. However their natives are called as Khmer. The Khmers are Hindus before being taught Buddhism of Theravada school by the Mon. It is a strict Buddhism school with Pali language tradition. Now Thailand still continuing the tradition of worshiping Guru (Buddha) of Theravada school. Cambodia people inter-twined Buddhism with Hindu and local animistic belief. Those American Khmers are so insolent when they included even us in Malayan Peninsula and Southern Thai as Khmer while we are not and also claiming that we hijack their lands when we telling them the truth. However we don't easily feel contended if we know who we really are.

Wow, NM you are sooo tall, 184 is so tall, really!!! Eh, you mentioned about Acheh, do you have any relatives from Sungai Acheh, I guess it is in Penang?
 
There are Muslims people in South East Asia non-Muslim country. Bangsa Moro (Moro nation) in Southern Philippine.

But, can we categorize them as oppressed people ?.
Because, although they are in conflict with Philippine govt, they have strong militia groups and they rule rural areas in some islands in southern Philippine.
 
Cambodia got her name from Kambuja ancient Indian tribes who became kings there. However their natives are called as Khmer. The Khmers are Hindus before being taught Buddhism of Theravada school by the Mon.

It is a strict Buddhism school with Pali language tradition. Now Thailand still continuing the tradition of worshiping Guru (Buddha) of Theravada school. Cambodia people inter-twined Buddhism with Hindu and local animistic belief.

Those American Khmers are so insolent when they included even us in Malayan Peninsula and Southern Thai as Khmer while we are not and also claiming that we hijack their lands (our own lands) when we telling them the truth and saying insult racism tantrums like we should be eating swine and Terrorists. However we don't easily feel contended if we know who we really are. They just proven who and what they really are.

Wow, brother NM you are sooo tall, 184 is so tall, really!!! Eh, you mentioned about Acheh, do you have any relatives from Sungai Acheh, I guess it is in Penang? I just know that my mother has Acheh blood from both of her parents side but she's not tall. Her parents can speak Thai in Southern Thai dialect because they lived in Perlis near border area, I speak Thai because I had lived and studying there too.

My father has Arab ancestry from his father side and his first paternal ancestor in Kedah is a mufti of Kedah from Yemen in the reign of our 19th Sultan, who is Sultan Muhammad Jiwa II of Kedah. The descents of the Mufti came from 4 places which are Anak Bukit, Titi Gajah, Pulau Timbul, and in Penang I'm not certain from where. They are not religious people anymore imsad I heard that Sheikh Abdus-Samad al-Falimbani from Palembang too is the Kedah mufti son from the mother in Palembang. We in Kedah are from the daughter of Kedah palace official.
 
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There are Muslims people in South East Asia non-Muslim country. Bangsa Moro (Moro nation) in Southern Philippine.

But, can we categorize them as oppressed people ?.
Because, although they are in conflict with Philippine govt, they have strong militia groups and they rule rural areas in some islands in southern Philippine.

If innocent civilian Muslims are killed, harrassed or injured while they never hurt anyone no matter by whom, then, they are considered as oppressed and victims...

I thought that Moros are of Malay or Austronesian stock, the same as Tagalogs in Northern Luzon, just they differs in the term of religion? My sister had hired a Filipino Muslim from Mindanao, but now she was sent back because the agent had illegally brought her in, we afraid that she will be jailed and my sister too will be sentenced by the authority for hiring illegal worker.

The agent who brought in the maid and dealing the affairs of maid is our own cousin, and when we ask her to give the appropriate travel documents like passport and visas, she just trying to escape us showing that she lied to us before she introduce the maid to us for benefit. Then she kicked and hit the maid in front of our face. My mom was so terribly shocked and she said that she will never forgive my cousin for treating a human-being like an animal, and actually it was her fault, not the maids fault.
 
so we should stop calling ourselves Malays? I think one political party would not allow us to do that... we're like 20% of the "Malay" population.

I think it is OK with Malay, because our people in Kelantan and Terengganu too consider themselves as Malays and will enrage if people say that they are non-Malay. Malay had been tagged with strong Islamic identity while they consider those in our places calling themselves Siamese as Buddhist while actually both people are from the same native ancestors although the Malay empire that once invaded us was actually Hindu-Buddhist. As for me, I'm comfortable with the term Muslim. We speak different languages but we are the same people and unified by a language which is the language of Quran, Quraisy Arabic :statisfie.
 
Mon and Sanskrit?

It is easy learning Mon if you know Thai. Thai had absorbed many Mon words which is regarded as ancient words in Mon-Khmer dialect. Khmer people claimed Thai only absorbed Khmer language because some of them are racist and influenced by Pol Pot. Mon people have classical literature written in Pallava script but only can be founded in Thailand. Also the dictionary of Bangkok Mon. Too bad it was edited and initiated by Westerners. No Muslim initiated works like this today. We had abandoned the field of knowledge and choosing only certain knowledge to learn unlike what Allah had urged us to initiate in learning. I had contacted a member of Kedah History Council, and he reported that many literature materials written in Malay still there in Lower Burma, but they are having difficulty to have access to the places there. Many too were destroyed by Thai authority and Burmese Junta in order to eliminate any trace to native culture and Islamic root there.

Sanskrit is not difficult too. The structure is just like Latin and Greek. And believe me you can speak with a Persian by using Sanskrit, I had tried that before and they seem like understanding me although they are like wondering what language that I had uttered :D Malay language that we speak today has at least 70% vocabulary borrowed from Sanskrit, so we just learn it like we learn Arabic :statisfie. As a Thai speaker too I'm having almost no problem learning Sanskrit, the high words used too have Sanskrit roots.
 
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