On the first point you make - this is where I struggle to understand, when you say “get out of our lands” you appear to be saying that there are lands (countries) which are your (Muslim) lands and that those setting off bombs and the like are doing it because we (westerners/kafirs) are in those lands. Do you/they take the view that countries can be divided into Muslim countries and non Muslim countries?
1. Yes. that is exactly what I'm saying. there are our lands just as there are your lands. No one says that America is "Muslim" land. Everyone accepts that America is "non Muslim" land. So what is problematic to understand about something so inevitably true
2. And yes, I am claiming that the reason why those bombs and killings are occurring is because non Muslims are in our lands militarily. The ultimate FACT that proves this, is the fact that none of this terrorism stuff ever became a common practice until a hegemonic complex began to be adopted and assimilated into foreign policy in Western, particularly, American foreign policy. And more importantly, a more blatant proof in your eyes for this fact, which I am claiming, is that why the "terrorist acts" are only being targeted on Americans, and whoever are viewed as "accomplices" of the American jihad. Muslims are not targeting Australia, they are not targeting Brazil, or any other country that originally has nothing to do with intervention in our affairs. And even if they happen in some countries, most of the targets aimed in such countries are American embassies and the like. So while you may not understand how I can make this claim, we are even in more abashment and amazed at how your reasoning cannot arrive at this most logical political conclusion.
3. And finally, YES, we and they (terrorist) believe that countries can be divided by Muslim/non Muslim countries. WHY NOT. In today's world, America and its allies depict the world mainly between 2 methodological aspects: A) democratic B) Non democratic
So whats the difference. America aids and makes jihaad for the sake of democracy against those who do not incorporate democracy as a methodological form of government of creed.
The only difference between such demarcations is that America and other westernized imitators defines its demarcations within the context of a social creed of governance whereas within the Islamic context, it demarcates the world based on belief and disbelief in the existence, worship, and implementation of God and His ordainment.
the first methodology completely tries to execute the successful management of this life within the context of this life to the exclusion of the next life WHILE laying claim to a good outcome in the next life based on man made theories WHEREAS the second methodology (the Islamic one) executes the successful management of this life within the context of this life WHILE TAKING into account the next life as a religious reality that is NOT based on man made theories, but based on definitive knowledge from the One who enforced our bodies to feel weakness after a certain amount of time of being awake and the One who enforced our bodies to deteriorate after a certain amount of time within this life, an the One who created necessary properties for the earth to maintain its luscious products and for each celestial object to maintain its proper course.
Like I said before in another thread: If you want to understand Islam and Muslims then you will have understand the differences between our methodologies and ponder upon the differences; we operate on complete different ideologies - our differences are like the difference between the sky and the earth. Until that does not happen, we will be running in circles without any thing being solved or reaching any conclusion.
