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[malayloveislam]

Tupah Recreation Area

This recreation area is just near the Jerai Mountain area. Also near to archeological site of ancient pre-Islamic heritage. They are just ruins, don't worry.

Kunyit River

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Bujang Valley Archeological Museum

Ok, here you can see those chandi ruins including some information about local history of Malaysian Northern Province.

A Chandi* Complex in Bujang Valley

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Beside the Hindu Chandi is a Mosque ruin complete with a Mihrab. Still in research, it suggest that Islam had arrived here earlier than in Malacca, but the ruler of the kingdom only embrace Islam with the whole population in 1136 AD.

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* Chandi: ancient Hindu worship place. Also a place to bury cremated corpse ashes and in the same time ancestral worship being conducted in the Chandi area.

 

[north_malaysian]

Merong Mahawangsa has connection with ancient Sri Lanka,

Oh.. I thought that he was a descendant of alexander the Great..

Merong means Dragon or Big Snake (Cobra).

Dragon...LOL.. my family have a legend connected with a dragon called "Naga Berinai"... it was said that hundreds of years ago my ancestor was born with a gold coloured snake... the parents raised both the child and the snake together... then after several years ... the snake was disappeared..

And the child forgot about the relationship he had with the snake and got married... later, he got a child and went picnic at the beach with both his baby and wife... when the baby was playing by the beach, suddenly a wave came and took away the baby... then the parents were so terrified and they couldnt do anything but just watching the baby taken away from them to the deep open sea.... suddenly a big golden dragon rescued the baby and sent him to the beach safely... and a finger of the baby was tied with a golden moustache hair of the dragon (it is said that my late aunt, who passed away early this year kept it... i never seen it)...

That night the father dreamed of the golden dragon saying that his name was "Naga Berinai" and his descendants will be the descendants of Naga Berinai... if his descendants need his help, they can throw "bertih" at the sea and the dragon will rescue them...

that was like hundreds of years ago...

During the World War II, when the Japanese occupied Penang island ... my late grandfather was captured and about to be sent to the labour camps in Burma... on their way to Burma... my late grandfather jumped off from the ship... in the mean time... my late grandmother was asked by my late grandfather family to throw the "bertih" at the sea .. she just done it as she dont know what to do to bring her husband back home...

After swimming for hours, my late grandfather was so tired and he's still in the middle of the Andaman sea... and suddenly he felt something push him from below and brought him over to Penang island!! In the middle of the journey... he found a soursop fruit floating on the sea and eating it to survive... he arrived on penang shore safely.

My father was born after WWII in the 50s.. and he doesnt believe this story... Me? I dont believe it too! ;D

 

[north_malaysian]

Tupah Recreation Area

yeah.. this place is very famous for... you know what..

Bujang Valley Archeological Museum

the last house before the museum.. that's my mum's relative house!!

Beside the Hindu Chandi is a Mosque ruin complete with a Mihrab. Still in research, it suggest that Islam had arrived here earlier than in Malacca, but the ruler of the kingdom only embrace Islam with the whole population in 1136 AD.

In the Lembah Bujang Archeological Museum there are evidence of Muslim Arab traders had been in the area since 11th century.. like two centuries earlier than Terengganu's Batu Bersurat.

And they found old Malay inscriptions (the same as those in Lembah Bujang) in Cherok Tok Kun, Penang... which means the civilisation might be as far as to the state of Penang... I think most of historical monuments are buried under the paddy fields from Penang in the south up to Alor Star in Kedah...

 

[AntiKarateKid]

I wish I could visit Indonesia/Malaysia. It'd be a nice change of pace to see asian Muslim instead of all indo/pak people in my area.

 

[malayloveislam]

Oh.. I thought that he was a descendant of alexander the Great..

I forgot to tell you, India subcontinent had the access to ancient Greece when Alexander the Great invaded India. There were also records about small Greek kingdoms in North-West of India, I guess in Pakistan today. Also certain tribes or jatis known as Yavana (Ionians) were actually Greeks. They were absorbed into normal Hindu society due to long historical process. Our land of Suvarnabumi was opened by the Emperor Asoka, according to Southern Thai inscription. So, basically I believe what has been written in our chronicles and annals are not merely myths but actually metaphors to the facts. The writers during ancient time do not include the dates made us difficult in tracing our early history. We already have connections with ancient Persians, Arabs and Greeks.

Dragon...LOL.. my family have a legend connected with a dragon called "Naga Berinai"... it was said that hundreds of years ago my ancestor was born with a gold coloured snake... the parents raised both the child and the snake together... then after several years ... the snake was disappeared..

LOL, you might have hidden ability in curing certain diseases. I don't really take the dragon thingy as real, but it seems like suggesting totemic belief in animistic community. It suggests that you might have Austroasian native root too. In India, the cult of dragon is practiced by people of Warrior class whose ancestors were Austroasiatic people. Austroasiatic people are believed by anthropological scholars as the original natives of ancient India pre-Aryan entrance, they too entered South-West China and inhabiting North-East India, and later descend down to SEAn mainland BCE.

There is a part of Buddhist tale telling about Naga (Cobra), who wants to enter monkhood and wants accumulating merit. He took the form of a human, but Buddha Gautama realized that and said to him that only human can be a monk. Nowadays, Buddhist in Thailand and Cambodia have the tradition where the monk candidates will have to shave all of his hair and eyebrow, and being called as Naak (Naga). Many buddha sculptures too has Naga (Cobra) being the umbrella (shelter) of the buddha (guru for buddhists).

Eh, golden snake represent "good luck" in Buddhist-Hindu classical texts. They called it Sri Chintamani. It is said if someone meet the snake, they will meet auspicious event. Well, what I heard from my South Thai Buddhist friends and from my experience mingling with buddhists.

Perak Sultans too have totemic animal, which is a crocodile. This one I heard from one of my Perakian friend. This happened long before Islam arrived.

 

[malayloveislam]

I wish I could visit Indonesia/Malaysia. It'd be a nice change of pace to see asian Muslim instead of all indo/pak people in my area.

Salam, it would also be nice if Muslim around the world can come and conduct business in our areas. We'd love to be the consumers of Muslim products. You can also visit our countryside areas and seeing the cradle of ancient India and ancient China's civilization :statisfie

 

[north_malaysian]

LOL, you might have hidden ability in curing certain diseases.

no way!!! LOL...

I don't really take the dragon thingy as real, but it seems like suggesting totemic belief in animistic community. It suggests that you might have Austroasian native root too. In India, the cult of dragon is practiced by people of Warrior class whose ancestors were Austroasiatic people. Austroasiatic people are believed by anthropological scholars as the original natives of ancient India pre-Aryan entrance, they too entered South-West China and inhabiting North-East India, and later descend down to SEAn mainland BCE.

I am of Warrior class? ok.. I have to check my ancestry ...seriously... LOL

Eh, golden snake represent "good luck" in Buddhist-Hindu classical texts. They called it Sri Chintamani. It is said if someone meet the snake, they will meet auspicious event. Well, what I heard from my South Thai Buddhist friends and from my experience mingling with buddhists.

there are "golden snakes" around? you must be joking..

 

[north_malaysian]

I wish I could visit Indonesia/Malaysia. It'd be a nice change of pace to see asian Muslim instead of all indo/pak people in my area.

there are lots of indians and pakistanis in Malaysia too... have no problems with them... thanks to Allah for bringing them to Malaysia.. with their delicacies...

 

[malayloveislam]

there are "golden snakes" around? you must be joking..

LOL, might be yes, might be no . I wonder how does that snake look likes if it really exist. Last time, many people rushing to the somewhere in Pendang when they heard about gold dust, but unfortunately it turns out to be fake gold :hmm:. Haha, the snake thing looks some what a mythology, but it's still nice as a folklore :statisfie. Some people like bomohs (shamans) have cintamani ointment, I dunno whether they use the snake or a kind of stone to make the ointment, maybe just a gimmick name given to their ointment.