The true religion.

Honestly, I don't know whether to take offense at that quote or not. My forefathers did what was best for the family, way more then anyone or anything else has, and I would destroy anyone who insulted them for doing what they did to save their children.

With all due respect, I have saved myself many times, and this is not one of them I see that I have too. If Allah is real, then he can come to me and tell me the Kami are false, but until that day, I will not give up my beliefs for something I don't believe in.
 
Hi brother in humanity Clover,

The things you said was already in Quran, the Quran is not a simple book, but god wrote all the way of thinking of Human.

Look the sourate bellow its the same thing you said above :

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.


Sourate 6

148. Those who give partners (to Allah. will say: "If Allah had wished, we should not have given partners to Him nor would our fathers; nor should we have had any taboos." So did their ancestors argue falsely, until they tasted of Our wrath. Say: "Have ye any (certain) knowledge? If so, produce it before us. Ye follow nothing but conjecture: ye do nothing but lie."

Do you knwo I repect you and all Human in general, but we have to look for to the truth, the right path.

Do you know as I told you before, the religion its not a game, we have to work together to try to find out what is true and what is not, what is logic or not.


You have nothing to lose if you ask god to guide you do it every night and every day , you will be surprised trust me, god will reply to you do not worry.

But you have to ask sincerly deeply inside you, if you do not do it that can not works.


I ask god to guide us and forgive us my brother in humanity.


PS : everybody forget the power and the presence of everyday life of the DEVIL, he is working every day, evry hour, evry minuts, every segonds ( Keep it in mind all your life )
 
thetruth2009 said:
Hi brother in humanity Clover,

The things you said was already in Quran, the Quran is not a simple book, but god wrote all the way of thinking of Human.

Look the sourate bellow its the same thing you said above :

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.


Sourate 6

148. Those who give partners (to Allah. will say: "If Allah had wished, we should not have given partners to Him nor would our fathers; nor should we have had any taboos." So did their ancestors argue falsely, until they tasted of Our wrath. Say: "Have ye any (certain) knowledge? If so, produce it before us. Ye follow nothing but conjecture: ye do nothing but lie."

Do you knwo I repect you and all Human in general, but we have to look for to the truth, the right path.

Do you know as I told you before, the religion its not a game, we have to work together to try to find out what is true and what is not, what is logic or not.


You have nothing to lose if you ask god to guide you do it every night and every day , you will be surprised trust me, god will reply to you do not worry.

But you have to ask sincerly deeply inside you, if you do not do it that can not works.


I ask god to guide us and forgive us my brother in humanity.


PS : everybody forget the power and the presence of everyday life of the DEVIL, he is working every day, evry hour, evry minuts, every segonds ( Keep it in mind all your life )
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I do not care if its in the Quran or not. You can believe it was a gift from God, but don't tell me what I should and should not do based on your beliefs.
 
How unpleasant and ignorant of you Clover you could have just told me wouldn's have done you harm, anyway my question was to the muslim brother thetruth2009 not you.
 
celina said:
How unpleasant and ignorant of you Clover you could have just told me wouldn's have done you harm, anyway my question was to the muslim brother thetruth2009 not you.
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Haha, ignorant? You obviously don't know the definition then, how ignorant of you :nervous:

I do not feel like telling someone about my RA, when they don't have the time to go to google and type in the words "Taoist, and Shintoist" or better "Taoism and Shinto". Sorry.

Then address it to him Madam, don't say it and then not expect just anyone to address it.

Spank You, and Have a Nice Day :).
 
Hi Clover,


Its not the way you have to act with people ans specially with the sister Celina.

I do not know what is wrong with you , she just asked you to explain What is a TAOIST and Shintoist, she is curious and wants to know ?

Is it what did you learn to have such behabiour, why are you agressive.

You are you always on defensive ?

Do you know the sister prefered to ask you , its better to have a reply from a Human than typing on google, can you imagine a world without exchanging ? to know from each other ?

I ask god to guide us and forgive us.
 
thetruth2009 said:
Hi Clover,


Its not the way you have to act with people ans specially with the sister Celina.

I do not know what is wrong with you , she just asked you to explain What is a TAOIST and Shintoist, she is curious and wants to know ?

Is it what did you learn to have such behabiour, why are you agressive.

You are you always on defensive ?

Do you know the sister prefered to ask you , its better to have a reply from a Human than typing on google, can you imagine a world without exchanging ? to know from each other ?

I ask god to guide us and forgive us.
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Thankyou brother I am so glad mashAllah that there are muslim brothers like you may Allah make you stronger and give you success.. ameen.
 
Celina went off topic when she asked what is Taoism. Clover made a thread about his beliefs, and she could of easily used the search feature.
 
thetruth2009 said:
Hi Clover,


Its not the way you have to act with people ans specially with the sister Celina.

I do not know what is wrong with you , she just asked you to explain What is a TAOIST and Shintoist, she is curious and wants to know ?

Is it what did you learn to have such behabiour, why are you agressive.

You are you always on defensive ?

Do you know the sister prefered to ask you , its better to have a reply from a Human than typing on google, can you imagine a world without exchanging ? to know from each other ?

I ask god to guide us and forgive us.
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I am not aggressive, if I was, I would have gone off on her. I was simply telling her a search engine that is very popular to use. I am not going to tell her in full definition what both of them are, cause it would take me a long long time.

I am honestly having a hard time understanding your English, but I will try to respond through it with what I perceive your asking.

I am going to rephrase your questions, tell me if they are right:

What did I do to learn this behavior? I just got this new behavior, cause I realized being proper means nothing to humanity.

Why am I defensive? Well you just asked why am I aggressive, which question are you asking? Cause their is a difference between the two, in-fact their opposites.

Yes, it would be a non-forum world. Google has better definitions for exact Taoism and Shinto beliefs. If she asked me, I would give her my beliefs, which might not fit with a Shintoist from China, cause I was not raised like them.
 
Lost&Found said:
Celina went off topic when she asked what is Taoism. Clover made a thread about his beliefs, and she could of easily used the search feature.
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What would be the harm if clover just told me the meaning he was ignorant and I wasn't expecting that kind of behaviour. If someone asked me what a muslim is I would be kind and give a nice explanation about it not throw a fit.:raging:
 
Clover said:
I do not care if its in the Quran or not. You can believe it was a gift from God, but don't tell me what I should and should not do based on your beliefs.
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Hi my brother in humanity Clover,

Do you know its not about my belief, its like I told you before I will never ask you to follow me, never ever.

Only god can guide us, do you think because I pray god , he is pleased or not , I do not know.

I have done nothing in my life for god, we are very weak, we spend our day life by doing nothing.

Can you imagine how many things god gave us, we can pray all our life, we will never pay it back.

What I want to say, its we have to fight together against our devil, after around us, every one have to try to clean his area, we have to respect each other, no difference of colour and beliefs.

We have to respect each other, big, black, hadsome, ugly, we are all Adam's children.

But what we live nowdays its different, maybe I am dreaming to much.:statisfie

What I want to say, now , we have time to think about god, to think about our destiny, to think how I can make god happy, pleased.

Maybe I can go to see my old friends I have not seen for many years, or I can call him, I have to call my cousin, or brothets or sisters, visit sick people, help poor people.

By doing all this god will show us many things by acting like that and can guide us and can be pleased.

I stop it here, I have many things to say, I hope clover and sisters and brothers you understand me.

Think about it Clover, you need nobody to tell you what you have to do , just adices to all of us, its good to have advice after the ball is in our court.

I ask god to guide us and forgive us.
 
thetruth2009 said:
Hi my brother in humanity Clover,

Do you know its not about my belief, its like I told you before I will never ask you to follow me, never ever.

Only god can guide us, do you think because I pray god , he is pleased or not , I do not know.

I have done nothing in my life for god, we are very weak, we spend our day life by doing nothing.

Can you imagine how many things god gave us, we can pray all our life, we will never pay it back.

What I want to say, its we have to fight together against our devil, after around us, every one have to try to clean his area, we have to respect each other, no difference of colour and beliefs.

We have to respect each other, big, black, hadsome, ugly, we are all Adam's children.

But what we live nowdays its different, maybe I am dreaming to much.:statisfie

What I want to say, now , we have time to think about god, to think about our destiny, to think how I can make god happy, pleased.

Maybe I can go to see my old friends I have not seen for many years, or I can call him, I have to call my cousin, or brothets or sisters, visit sick people, help poor people.

By doing all this god will show us many things by acting like that and can guide us and can be pleased.

I stop it here, I have many things to say, I hope clover and sisters and brothers you understand me.

Think about it Clover, you need nobody to tell you what you have to do , just adices to all of us, its good to have advice after the ball is in our court.

I ask god to guide us and forgive us.
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I have someone to guide me. My ancestors and my family that is living.
 
celina said:
What would be the harm if clover just told me the meaning he was ignorant and I wasn't expecting that kind of behaviour. If someone asked me what a muslim is I would be kind and give a nice explanation about it not throw a fit.:raging:
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haha, madam until you prove I was being ignorant, your being ignorant of vocabulary :). Throw a fit? If I had thrown a fit, you would know it, I assure you. Besides, if I told you the meaning you would probably tell me it was my own opinion, which would be true, so why waste my time?
 
This is all very fascinating, but this thread is about the "true religion".

Let's discuss that or I'll...throw a fit.
 
Uthmān;1196513 said:
This is all very fascinating, but this thread is about the "true religion".

Let's discuss that or I'll...throw a fit.
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I agree, sorry for going off topic with others.

Don't do it! Mods when they throw fits is never pretty.
 
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Uthmān;1196513 said:
This is all very fascinating, but this thread is about the "true religion".

Let's discuss that or I'll...throw a fit.
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I only asked him about his faith, have I commit a major crime? Being compassionate and understanding isn't that also part of 'true religion
 

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