A jewish person moving to Israel

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Question and ideology behind it is strange - and quite same what zionists use when they try to prove they have right to get own state - even by stolen and getting by murdering and expelling early inhabitants.

It is same like should Christians have right to get they own state - where every whose have right to live there would be just Christians; every others should expelled. Idea of zionists has been last news that by the two state solution they wants so-called "Jews-only-state". This kind of ideology is pure racism - just like nazism or apartheid.

Well do you recognize jews as a nation..

Do they have right to their own state?
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Even you asked this from other member I will answer:

No, jewism is religion, not race neither nation.

Sure if they want jews-only-state - but not to land which original inhabitants have been expelled or murdered and stealed they land.
 
hadas said:
Well do you recognize jews as a nation..

Do they have right to their own state?
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What do you mean? I don't recognize israel as a country and i never will. I know it must be harsh, but it's reality. And i will never forget the thousand of innocent Palestinians that died because of israel. If jews want a country, then i remembered reading somewhere that its to be in Russia, if i am not mistaken. But it was not Palestine. You guys literally destroyed their lives. All of which you are living on is Palestine and it will always be Palestine. I don't mean to be harsh, but some things need to be said. If you feel for these Palestinians, who were brutally murdered, you won't go to live in israel. israel is very cruel. I don't need to quote anything for that. Here, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQLM9SrL7SI&feature=player_profilepage
 
sister harb said:
Question and ideology behind it is strange - and quite same what zionists use when they try to prove they have right to get own state - even by stolen and getting by murdering and expelling early inhabitants.

It is same like should Christians have right to get they own state - where every whose have right to live there would be just Christians; every others should expelled. Idea of zionists has been last news that by the two state solution they wants so-called "Jews-only-state". This kind of ideology is pure racism - just like nazism or apartheid.



Even you asked this from other member I will answer:

No, jewism is religion, not race neither nation.

Sure if they want jews-only-state - but not to land which original inhabitants have been expelled or murdered and stealed they land.
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So jews are not original inhabitants in Middle East?? Where did they originate? In Siberia maybe?

There are many Arabs who have israeli citizenship , Arab language is official language in Israel....they live and work side by side with jews...
 
Afg said:
Not the modern israelis.
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There are Arabs, Pakistanis, Koreans living and working in Europe....do you object that?

So you think that jewish people should be racially profiled and whoever is not ''semitic'' enough has no right to live in Israel?


Blue-eyed people should not live in Israel?
 
Afg said:
What do you mean? I don't recognize israel as a country and i never will. I know it must be harsh, but it's reality. And i will never forget the thousand of innocent Palestinians that died because of israel. If jews want a country, then i remembered reading somewhere that its to be in Russia, if i am not mistaken. But it was not Palestine. You guys literally destroyed their lives. All of which you are living on is Palestine and it will always be Palestine. I don't mean to be harsh, but some things need to be said. If you feel for these Palestinians, who were brutally murdered, you won't go to live in israel. israel is very cruel. I don't need to quote anything for that. Here, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQLM9SrL7SI&feature=player_profilepage
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Well I can post pictures of suicide-attacks victims...
 
One more question

what do you think about Ahmadinejad and his words: Israel should be wiped off the Earth:hmm:
 
Ya, israel should leave Palestine, give back all the land.
 
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hadas said:
There are Arabs, Pakistanis, Koreans living and working in Europe....do you object that?

So you think that jewish people should be racially profiled and whoever is not ''semitic'' enough has no right to live in Israel?


Blue-eyed people should not live in Israel?
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That is different. Im sure you know that. They are not killing people, nor are they snatching their land.

It's not jew, it's israel im talking about. There are jews who don't call themselves israelis. Example Polish jews, German jews.. israel, again im saying is not a country that we recognize. It is Palestine, not israel.

Blue-eyed people? Where did that come from? Are you blued-eyed?;) If a jew wants to live in Palestine, im sure the Palestinians would not mind. But if they come, take away their land, call it israel :hmm:
 
hadas said:
Well I can post pictures of suicide-attacks victims...
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Ya you can :) but here we are talking about israelis taking away the land of others. May God be with the Palestinians, it was really heart breaking to see how their homes were demolished. And that little boy who had to go through this imsad and all the people there who had to see these horrible things happening to them.
 
Afg said:
Ya, israel should leave Palestine, give back all the land.
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Now I am confused...

first you tell me that Israelis should leave, and then you say: Palestinians woud not object if a jewish person comes to live there...

I am not blonde, I am brunette with brown eyes, is that semitic enough:statisfie:D
 
I have a jewish friend who was in love with a palestinian boy.

I live in Croatia, she is half-croatian, half-jewish, he is half-palestinian, half-croatian.

She told me one day that they quarrel all the time. He thinks that jews should not live in the Middle East and started telling her: well Tel Aviv will be razed to the ground one day...They broke up finally.

Do you think it is ok of a muslim guy to talk that way to his girlfriend?
 
hadas said:
I have a jewish friend who was in love with a palestinian boy.

I live in Croatia, she is half-croatian, half-jewish, he is half-palestinian, half-croatian.

She told me one day that they quarrel all the time. He thinks that jews should not live in the Middle East and started telling her: well Tel Aviv will be razed to the ground one day...They broke up finally.

Do you think it is ok of a muslim guy to talk that way to his girlfriend?
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ill put the whole girlfriend thing aside but things like the tel aviv comment- yes its understandable. the zionists have ALREADY WIPED palestine off the map you dont expect palestinians or muslims to be all sugary and floaty about them.
if jews want to live in the middle east (which many do btw) then fine- but they should do it under palestinian law..not steal their land and occupy it
 
hadas said:
Now I am confused...

first you tell me that Israelis should leave, and then you say: Palestinians woud not object if a jewish person comes to live there...

I am not blonde, I am brunette with brown eyes, is that semitic enough:statisfie:D
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Yes you are confused.

israel should leave Palestine, and give them back all the land. They may be able to give back the land, but not the lives. All those people..

There are jews in Palestine, and Christians too. But as someone mentioned, they should be living under Palestinian law. They would be living in a country called Palestine, not israel. This should clear away your confusion :)

Lol the blue-eyed thing was a joke. You said so blue-eyes won't be allowed to live there. Just thought maybe you were talking about yourself. But ya there are probably blue-eyes, grey-eyes, green-eyes living in palestine :statisfie
 
I have a jewish friend who was in love with a palestinian boy.

I live in Croatia, she is half-croatian, half-jewish, he is half-palestinian, half-croatian.

She told me one day that they quarrel all the time. He thinks that jews should not live in the Middle East and started telling her: well Tel Aviv will be razed to the ground one day...They broke up finally.

Do you think it is ok of a muslim guy to talk that way to his girlfriend?
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Well, it is not right for a Muslim guy to have a girlfriend.
 
the land of Palestine was "supposedly" promised to the seed of
Abraham. If one researches the Ancient Hebrew laws, the right of decent or inheritance is based on the eldest son, no matter whom the mother is. If this is the case, then the land was promised to Ishamel (for he was the eldest of Abraham's sons) and the Father of Palestinian Arabs. In addition, modern day Jews from Russia, Poland and most parts of Eastern Europe have NO genetic link to the ancient Hebrews - they for the most part are decendents of Khazars, who converted to Judaism in the 7th century (this has been documented by Jewish scholars, not Arabs). The modern day Palestinians can claim a more direct link to the Hebrew tribes than the founders of modern day "Israel." What the Western Press purposely avoids mentioning is the fact that at the start of the 20th century, less than 5% of the land of Palestine was Jewish. The modern State of Israel was built on lands illegally taken and assimilated from Palestinian Christians and Muslims. Also, the Hebrews only ruled the land of Palestine for a combined 411 years - the Muslims have ruled the land for 1,500 years. In addition, the land of Canaan (Palestine) had a history long before the Jewish tribes immigrated to the area.

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If you look in the bible you'll see that Abraham ( who was still a middle easterner) bought a land from the Canaanites to bury Sarah, he didn't just take a land because it was (promised them) and I still stress he was originally a middle easterner not a pole or a ruskie......

I am glad that the the pali kid came to his senses.. I don't know much about Judaism but I imagine having illegal and illicit relationships outside of marriage is frowned upon in Judaism as well?


all the best
 
Greetings and peace be with you hadas, welcome to the forum.

Do you think that jewish people have a right to live in the Middle East. I read muslim forums and people often say that Jews have no right to be there.
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Maybe the question should be, do you think Palestinians have a right to live in the state of Israel? I have just come back from a Christian pilgrimage to Israel, we had a Jewish guide, who constantly talked about the 1967 war, and the reunification of Jerusalem.

I don’t know how accurate her figures are but she said, Israel is about 80 % Jewish, and about 20 % Muslim, so there aren’t too many Palestinians left according to her information.

What are your thoughts?

In the spirit of praying for justice for all people, the poor and the oppressed.

Eric
 
Gossamer skye said:
the land of Palestine was "supposedly" promised to the seed of
Abraham. If one researches the Ancient Hebrew laws, the right of decent or inheritance is based on the eldest son, no matter whom the mother is. If this is the case, then the land was promised to Ishamel (for he was the eldest of Abraham's sons) and the Father of Palestinian Arabs. In addition, modern day Jews from Russia, Poland and most parts of Eastern Europe have NO genetic link to the ancient Hebrews - they for the most part are decendents of Khazars, who converted to Judaism in the 7th century (this has been documented by Jewish scholars, not Arabs). The modern day Palestinians can claim a more direct link to the Hebrew tribes than the founders of modern day "Israel." What the Western Press purposely avoids mentioning is the fact that at the start of the 20th century, less than 5% of the land of Palestine was Jewish. The modern State of Israel was built on lands illegally taken and assimilated from Palestinian Christians and Muslims. Also, the Hebrews only ruled the land of Palestine for a combined 411 years - the Muslims have ruled the land for 1,500 years. In addition, the land of Canaan (Palestine) had a history long before the Jewish tribes immigrated to the area.

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If you look in the bible you'll see that Abraham ( who was still a middle easterner) bought a land from the Canaanites to bury Sarah, he didn't just take a land because it was (promised them) and I still stress he was originally a middle easterner not a pole or a ruskie......

I am glad that the the pali kid came to his senses.. I don't know much about Judaism but I imagine having illegal and illicit relationships outside of marriage is frowned upon in Judaism as well?


all the best
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She broke up, he came after her crying...well they didn't consume their relationship...

You are mentioning racism, but then you say that jews have no right to live in Middle East because they were people living there before, some canaan tribes..

Well there were non-slavic tribes like Illirians living on the area of Croatia long before slavic tribes came from eastern Europe...according to that logic, croatians should leave Croatia and go back to russian midlands...

What do you think about european people who say that Jews should be expelled from Europe?
 

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