Believe me, I'm not defending Iran. Iran has tonnes of its own problems with its population. But at least Sunnis in Iran get seats in Parliament, and can build their own mosques and celebrate their own festivals.
Saudi Arabia pretty much needs the help of foreign nationals, but just because non Muslims are allowed to stay there, they're not allowed to practise their religion freely (or even, despite Saudi promises, privately in some cases). But then, that's only the religious segregation. Let's not forget the gender segregation...
Sunnis are by Iranian constitution denied from leadership or political positions in Iran and specifically cannot hold friday prayers or celebrate festivals. The very foundation of Mousavi's campaign was easing such restrictions.
On the other hand, like I said, Shia are only disallowed from having husseineiiat, which is a bloody ritual where they wound and lash themselves publicly and slap their faces and chests. Therefore What you have said is categorically untrue and deliberately reversed. What you are doing now is just bashing muslims and Islam with false accusations.
Additionally, when you start going on about religious and gender segregation, you are just fooling yourself and everyone with political rhetoric that sounds negative but actually normal and not having it is inapplicable anywhere else in the World. Religious segregation is a negative connotation yet absolute fact in any country that rightfully holds religious authority. Again, I don't see protestants or jews or athiests getting positions in the Vatican, and I don't expect that to happen any time soon. Saudi Arabia is not the "church" of Islam, bacause there isn't one, but it is the foundational and scholarly center of Islam and is governed as such. For you to call on Saudi to become a secular state is a political call, one that we reject wholeheartedly, and it is hypocritical from you to do so while trying to make a religious state sound morally corrupt and oppressive, while the likes of Israel and the Vatican are free to owe their existence and the dictation of their laws and belief system to judaism and catholicism.
As for the gender segregation, it is something that all practicing muslims enjoy and want to embrace, and it has brought moral superiority and social stability the likes of which Western countries only dream of, with extra-marital affairs, sexual harrassment accusations, rampant rape incidents, and pregnant teenage girls out of wedlock all becoming facts of daily life. Such matters you may have become desensitized with due to its happening every day, yet it seems you are very susciptible to believing that the Saudi or Islamic society is morally inferior because every three months you hear of an over-sensationalized story of a crime or an indecent situation, which is bombarded and plastered all over the news and media channels and repeated till people throw up. Your calls to the removal of gender segregation is persecution of Islamic values that are not only beyond reproach, but are wanted and desired and appreciated by muslims far and wide, so it's not your right to force what is statistically and evidentially morally inferior onto a society and claim you are making it better. It shouldn't escape you that gender segregation was actually foundational elements in judaism and christianity before "easing" it out by those who saw fit to call themselves God's vessels of inspiration.
At least the Vatican treats Protestants as humans, and instead of going on all the time about how 'un-Christian' we are, at least Catholics try and make amends and try and build up good relations after our two denominations bloody past.
Nobody called anyone unchristian, seems to be a Freudian slip I guess. Anyway, you're the one who started this line of questioning and started flinging accusations, why would you claim the right to call the Catholic chrurch off limits then? Specifically when it is the church itself that commited the horrific crimes in the name of Jesus, and claimed it is inspiration from God to the holy pope and his bishops, and today you still embrace them. On the other hand whatever muslims do is what muslims do and anyone claiming that they are receiving divine inspiration is pronounced outside the fold of Islam. Saudi Arabia that you are attacking denounced and spent money, time, and resources to educate the World on how unislamic the terrorists are, and was subject itself to terrorist attacks.
Brother, we hold peaceful and friendly regards towards christians, and value their adoption of what they received to be God's message of abiding by the best of ethics and morals, believing in the creator of the Heavens and Earth, and steming the tide of godlessness that is sweeping the Western World. However if you feel so strongly about christianity, how christian are you right now with such accusations - false or not -?
You have been given false news and you are acting upon them negatively. God be with you brother, and may you find peace and truth.
Supreme is a brother, not a sister. Also, it was Guestfellow who started this thread, not Supreme.
Sorry about that, I corrected the sister part. However I meant line of discussion towards attacking Saudi when I said thread, not specifically being the OP, adjusted as well. Thanks brother Uthman.
