Baby survives after being run over by train

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How about the tsunami of December 2004. Most victims were muslims.

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how about it?

we are all going to die.. being saved in such a dramatic manner, is an augury like any important sign in the universe to those who reflect, but it is certainly not an exemption from death.. which in and of itself an augury...


all the best of course!
 
How about the tsunami of December 2004. Most victims were muslims.

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Actually, something really good came after the tsunami.
Aceh had been wrecked by conflicts for 20 years where violence was daily occurrence. The Free Aceh Movement (GAM) who aimed for full independence for The Acehnese staged guerilla attacks while the oppressive Indonesian government under authoritarian Suharto rule for so many years placed Aceh under strict military rule which means injustices and gross human rights violations often made by both Indonesian military and GAM guerillas.
At stake was Acehnese natural resources such gas and more illicit resources such as the large plantation and production of marijuana.

The tsunami changed everything.

Acehnese are notoriously known for being difficult to work with and fiercely independent and many even say they are such an arrogant bunch, but since the tsunami, everyone came together and able to set aside their differences in order to rebuild their lives with the help of countless outsiders, nationals and internationals.
after many rounds of talks, in 2005 the Indonesian government and the GAM leaders signed the Helsinki Peace agreement which gives the Acehnese otonomy to have their own rules and regulations within the frame of Indonesia.
Post-tsunami post-conflict Aceh is now so much better than it was ever before.
There is now lasting peace, the economy is developing much better than ever with great direction, the Acehnese have become a lot more religious (and practicing) and recently its provincial parliament passed regional by-laws implementing the Sharia laws.

The tsunami has created a condition and opportunity where the Acehnese was able to create a just and prosperous society.
Not only has Allah given warning (for the existence of Allah, to mend our ways) to the rest of mankind with the tsunami, but there are so many good things came after the tsunami (and I am sure not just in Aceh, but also in other areas affected by the tsunami such as southern Thailand, parts of Srilanka and India).

When it comes to tsunami and Aceh I know what I am talking about. I have been to Aceh so many times, before the tsunami and after. My current work involves providing grants for conflict mitigation and peaceful resolution programs/activities and post tsunami reconstructions in Aceh.

Oh, FYI, Muslims (who are moo'min) who died in natural disasters are considered syahid.
 
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With the tsunami digression now writhing in the aftermath of several degrees of ownage, could we please return to the topic.
 
^^ are they 25,000 children that we can do something about?
All that is good is from God, all that is evil is from us.. now I know we all feel like we do our part, but believe me when I tell you that the three wealthiest people in the world can support the economy of 42 of the poorest countries.. there is no excuse for a child dying of dehydration or not having enough food in its tummy, or because of Malaria or malicious abusive people in their lives..

either way I say, those children that die young are in the care of the most merciful, and those left behind, God has delegated their responsibility to us!

all the best

:sl: MashaAllaah perfectly said. Everything happens because of Allaah's will. As a Muslim, you cannot question that. It annoys me when people say certain things happened because of ''luck''. It was already pre-ordained.

SubhanAllaah at the baby surviving! When I saw it on the news I felt like someone tore out a piece of my heart, especially since I can empathize (I am expecting inshaAllaah).
 
The baby wasn't strapped in so when the pram went rolling over the baby fell on to the track and into the gap under the train. Regardless ofvthe outcome it would still be a traumatic experience for those involved
 
Subhanallah i dont understand how anybody can remain faithless after seeing thing like this.

I've always found theists view of God and luck interesting. If something lucky happens, God did it. If something unlucky happens (like the baby falling into the train's path in the first place), its never God that did that.
 
I've always found theists view of God and luck interesting. If something lucky happens, God did it. If something unlucky happens (like the baby falling into the train's path in the first place), its never God that did that.

I dont know which particular theists you are talking about in regard to this view but in islam everything is willed and controlled by Allah. Luck should be regarded as a miracle and if something unlucky happens it is a test from Allah.
 
What a great and mercifull miracle from Allah. May this happening help her (baby´s mom) to find right path.

And what a shockfull moment to her it was...

:phew

Amen.
 
I've always found theists view of God and luck interesting. If something lucky happens, God did it. If something unlucky happens (like the baby falling into the train's path in the first place), its never God that did that.
I find the view of people who dont believe in god funny as well. its all gods fault that crap happens in the world and yet its out of my ability/luck/power that good things happen to me :$
 
I dont know which particular theists you are talking about in regard to this view but in islam everything is willed and controlled by Allah. Luck should be regarded as a miracle and if something unlucky happens it is a test from Allah.

What exactly is being squashed by a train when you are an infant a test of?
 
What exactly is being squashed by a train when you are an infant a test of?
Possibly a test of my continuous struggle against blurting words to the effect of 'Please don't derail* the topic'.

Could be...

P.s.

*see what I did there?

P.p.s.

Hmm, a quick spin of the search function didn't show any specific thread about luck and Islam. There is one about Predestination, though.
 
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