Time 'running out' on Iran talks

Bro Supreme,

I assume you live in London, UK, is that correct? I myself read alot of weird politics and how the system works worldwide.

Let me assure you, we are not saying Jewish, Jews or Jewellery. The reality is very strong big Isrealis Lobby so called AIPAC controlled US governments, Mossad controlled US movement, media controlled people's mind, jewish state had American's technology&money (10 billion dollar every years aid), military machines, and you might find out more about it.

I want to tell you that christians people in US are lack regarding values, disciplines, belief, education and culture in the best future, jewish people are the serious minded (certainly obsession)to get the TOP levels in every positions in order to control everything.
 
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No, the post ignorantly stated that Jews were in control of America, a statement that is blatantly incorrect, evidenced because of the fact there is only on Jew in the US Cabinet, and not very many Jews in Congress at all. Now, you've added the word Zionist. To say 'America is controlled by Zionists' would probably have been more accurate, as most zionists are Christians, not Jews. Also, don't say 'the' Jew, say 'Jews', as you wouldn't say 'the Muslim', but Muslims. The post reminded me of Hitler because he used to state Jews were in control of the world, which wasn't correct either.

Maybe your over analysing. o_o

I don't understand what Hitler has got to do with this.
 
I agree it is not the Jews gaining control, it is Zionism and Zionism is a radical Christian movement that demands there to be a State of Israel as they see that as being the fulfillment of Christianity. Zionism is what is controlling both Israel and much of the Western world. Israel is a puppet of Zionist Christians, rather than the western world being puppets of Israel.
 
I agree it is not the Jews gaining control, it is Zionism and Zionism is a radical Christian movement that demands there to be a State of Israel as they see that as being the fulfillment of Christianity. Zionism is what is controlling both Israel and much of the Western world. Israel is a puppet of Zionist Christians, rather than the western world being puppets of Israel.

I think I pretty much agree with this statement. Again, Jews do not control America, Zionists do.
 
I agree it is not the Jews gaining control, it is Zionism and Zionism is a radical Christian movement that demands there to be a State of Israel as they see that as being the fulfillment of Christianity. Zionism is what is controlling both Israel and much of the Western world. Israel is a puppet of Zionist Christians, rather than the western world being puppets of Israel.

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In what way is this fulfilling Christianity?
 
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In what way is this fulfilling Christianity?

I think it's in relation to the Second Coming of Christ. Another requirement is a new Temple, presumably on the sacred Temple Mount, where the Dome of Rock and al Asqa mosque stand. But Jews disagree as to whether this Temple will be built by God or man.
 
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In what way is this fulfilling Christianity?

The Christian Extremists believe that in order for Isa(as) to return the Jews must have a homeland and rebuild the Temple. The Zionist Christians place this as Being Jerusalem and the Temple to be where Al-Aqsa stands.
 
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In what way is this fulfilling Christianity?

It's prophesied in the Old Testament that God would bring the Jewish people back to the land of Israel, from all the nations where they were scattered, and never again pluck them out of their land.

'Then the Lord will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods--gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known.' Deutoronomy 28: 64.

Here is Joel 3:2

I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat. There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land.

Here is Ezekiel 36:8-10

`But you, O mountains of Israel, will produce branches and fruit for my people Israel, for they will soon come home. I am concerned for you and will look on you with favor; you will be plowed and sown, and I will multiply the number of people upon you, even the whole house of Israel. The towns will be inhabited and the ruins rebuilt.
 
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It's prophesied in the Old Testament that God would bring the Jewish people back to the land of Israel, from all the nations were they where scattered, and never again pluck them out of their land.

It is prophecized in the Quran in chapter 17 that they will indeed come back from where they were scattered:

[SIZE=-1]Pickthal 17:4] And We decreed for the Children of Israel in the Scripture: Ye verily will work corruption in the earth twice, and ye will become great tyrants.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][Pickthal 17:5] So when the time for the first of the two came, We roused against you slaves of Ours of great might who ravaged (your) country, and it was a threat performed.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][Pickthal 17:6] Then we gave you once again your turn against them, and We aided you with wealth and children and made you more in soldiery.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][Pickthal 17:7] (Saying): If ye do good, ye do good for your own souls, and if ye do evil, it is for them (in like manner). So, when the time for the second (of the judgments) came (We roused against you others of Our slaves) to ravage you, and to enter the Temple even as they entered it the first time, and to lay waste all that they conquered with an utter wasting.

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I hope they heed the only existing book of God that is unerring, and whose prophecies have been fulfilled one by one insha'Allah...
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In what way is this fulfilling Christianity?

The christians believe that once the Israelites assemble in Palestine and dismantle al-Aqsa for their third temple, that a blonde repuke-con Jesus will descend down on a silver cloud and take all them good little christians up for a rapture.. isn't it amazing the Jews and Christians both using each other as they both think the other party a fool... the first use the man/god worshipers to take their money and their weaponry so that their true 'Moschiach' you know better known to you as the anti-christ will alas come to lead them to the promised land.. (oh wait, they have taken it by force and already excavating beneath al-aqsa to build it) while the christians think, that the blinded jews are just part of the fulfillment of their own prophecy, where once they assemble the blond repuke con Jesus will descend to take them for his rapture..

Any part of that about the 'meek inheriting the earth' lol.. neither have been very meek or humble, either about their approach or patient for prophecies that are supposed to be divinely fulfilled.......

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The christians believe that once the Israelites assemble in Palestine and dismantle al-Aqsa for their third temple, that a blonde repuke-con Jesus will descend down on a silver cloud and take all them good little christians up for a rapture.. isn't it amazing the Jews and Christians both using each other as they both think the other party a fool... the first use the man/god worshipers to take their money and their weaponry so that their true 'Moschiach' you know better known to you as the anti-christ will alas come to lead them to the promised land.. (oh wait, they have taken it by force and already excavating beneath al-aqsa to build it) while the christians think, that the blinded jews are just part of the fulfillment of their own prophecy, where once they assemble the blond repuke con Jesus will descend to take them for his rapture..

Any part of that about the 'meek inheriting the earth' lol.. neither have been very meek or humble, either about their approach or patient for prophecies that are supposed to be divinely fulfilled.......

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The rapture is supposed to be imminent, without warning. There is no sign that signals that event though Christians are to be aware of the signs of the end of the age. Israel did have to become a nation, as I quoted using the scriptures in the above post. The Jewish people don't have to build the temple for the rapture to happen, the temple can be built during the Tribulation.

And then of course most anyone can see the march towards the new world order (ie one world government) as the globalist elite try to push multiculturalism and the demise of national sovereignty down our throats. The EU just elected their first permanent president and many Bible commentators have been saying for hundreds of years that the Antichrist will come out of the revived Roman Empire. When the EU and the Mediterranean Union are aligned their borders are the same as the Roman Empire.

And with a one world government comes a one world religion, and most anyone discerning can see the stages being set for that as religious leaders all over the world embrace ecumenicism, and the foster of dialogue between faiths, and Eastern transcendental meditation as a common bridge for all faiths.

But yes, the stage is being set for the end of the age, as we are definitely 10 minutes to midnight.
 
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The rapture is supposed to be imminent

Yes imminent for you as the Moschiach is to the Jews.. as a Sage Jesus the human prophet from the middle east descending to fulfill his prophecies and die like humans will according to Muslims (insha'Allah).

I am just pointing out that your scriptures have often been wrong, and just like you suspect that jews are wrong about their Moschiach, it should make perfect sense to you, why the destruction you and your pals are causing in one of God's holiest regions will come to bite you, rather than help you ascend to pearly gates.. the end doesn't justify the means!

all the best
 
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No, the post ignorantly stated that Jews were in control of America, a statement that is blatantly incorrect, evidenced because of the fact there is only on Jew in the US Cabinet, and not very many Jews in Congress at all.

You keep shooting your mouth off like that you certainly reaffirm your own ignorance:

The Jeruselum Post:

"2% of the American population Jews constituted 11% of the U.S. Senate in the 108th Congress."

"The next session of Congress will include 45 Jewish lawmakers, a new record, after Democrats Alan Grayson of Florida and John Adler of New Jersey took two House seats from the Republican column.



Jared Polis, also a Democrat, was widely expected to win his Colorado House seat to match the previous record, set in the 2006 elections.



The House will have 32 Jewish members. Only the class of 1990 had more Jewish members - 34 - but there were fewer Jewish senators at the time.
The next Senate will have 13 Jewish members, the same as the previous session, despite a toss-up race in Minnesota, where both Republican incumbent Norm Coleman and his Democratic challenger, comedian Al Franken, are Jewish.



Democrats said they were disappointed not to have an even larger record after losing several close races - including in Alaska, where polls showed state legislator Ethan Berkowitz mounting a strong challenge for a Republican seat in vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin's home state - but said they were satisfied with the outcome."

A straight look at the Jewish Lobby

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]As Jewish author and political science professor Benjamin Ginsberg has pointed out[[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]Benjamin Ginsberg, The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State (University of Chicago, 1993), pp. 1, 103.][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]:
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]“Since the 1960s, Jews have come to wield considerable influence in American economic, cultural, intellectual and political life. Jews played a central role in American finance during the 1980s, and they were among the chief beneficiaries of that decade’s corporate mergers and reorganizations. Today, though barely two percent of the nation’s population is Jewish, close to half its billionaires are Jews. The chief executive officers of the three major television networks and the four largest film studios are Jews, as are the owners of the nation’s larg*est newspaper chain and the most influential single newspaper, the New York Times... The role and influence of Jews in Ameri*can politics is equally marked...[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]“Jews are only three percent of the nation’s population and com*prise eleven percent of what this study defines as the nation’s elite. However, Jews constitute more than 25 percent of the elite journalists and publishers, more than 17 percent of the leaders of important voluntary and public interest organiza*tions, and more than 15 percent of the top ranking civil ser*vants.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]Stephen Steinlight, former Director of National Affairs of the American Jewish Committee, similarly notes the “disproportionate political power” of Jews, which is “pound for pound the greatest of any ethnic/cultural group in America.” He goes on to explain that “Jewish economic influence and power are disproportionately concentrated in Hollywood, television, and in the news industry.“[/FONT]
 
I agree it is not the Jews gaining control, it is Zionism and Zionism is a radical Christian movement that demands there to be a State of Israel as they see that as being the fulfillment of Christianity. Zionism is what is controlling both Israel and much of the Western world. Israel is a puppet of Zionist Christians, rather than the western world being puppets of Israel.

Hmm, I would like to notice that this zionism is a movement supported by very young protestant groups, like baptists, methodists, pentecostals, evangelicals etc.
An average catholic or orthodox has no stance about zionism, we are mostly neutral about it.
 
Hmm, I would like to notice that this zionism is a movement supported by very young protestant groups, like baptists, methodists, pentecostals, evangelicals etc.
An average catholic or orthodox has no stance about zionism, we are mostly neutral about it.

The only part of that I disagree with is I do not think many Methodists support Zionism. But I do agree that the average Catholic or Orthodox is neutral.
 
You keep shooting your mouth off like that you certainly reaffirm your own ignorance:

The Jeruselum Post:

"2% of the American population Jews constituted 11% of the U.S. Senate in the 108th Congress."

"The next session of Congress will include 45 Jewish lawmakers, a new record, after Democrats Alan Grayson of Florida and John Adler of New Jersey took two House seats from the Republican column.



Jared Polis, also a Democrat, was widely expected to win his Colorado House seat to match the previous record, set in the 2006 elections.



The House will have 32 Jewish members. Only the class of 1990 had more Jewish members - 34 - but there were fewer Jewish senators at the time.
The next Senate will have 13 Jewish members, the same as the previous session, despite a toss-up race in Minnesota, where both Republican incumbent Norm Coleman and his Democratic challenger, comedian Al Franken, are Jewish.



Democrats said they were disappointed not to have an even larger record after losing several close races - including in Alaska, where polls showed state legislator Ethan Berkowitz mounting a strong challenge for a Republican seat in vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin's home state - but said they were satisfied with the outcome."

A straight look at the Jewish Lobby

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]As Jewish author and political science professor Benjamin Ginsberg has pointed out[[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]Benjamin Ginsberg, The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State (University of Chicago, 1993), pp. 1, 103.][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]:
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]“Since the 1960s, Jews have come to wield considerable influence in American economic, cultural, intellectual and political life. Jews played a central role in American finance during the 1980s, and they were among the chief beneficiaries of that decade’s corporate mergers and reorganizations. Today, though barely two percent of the nation’s population is Jewish, close to half its billionaires are Jews. The chief executive officers of the three major television networks and the four largest film studios are Jews, as are the owners of the nation’s larg*est newspaper chain and the most influential single newspaper, the New York Times... The role and influence of Jews in Ameri*can politics is equally marked...[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]“Jews are only three percent of the nation’s population and com*prise eleven percent of what this study defines as the nation’s elite. However, Jews constitute more than 25 percent of the elite journalists and publishers, more than 17 percent of the leaders of important voluntary and public interest organiza*tions, and more than 15 percent of the top ranking civil ser*vants.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular]Stephen Steinlight, former Director of National Affairs of the American Jewish Committee, similarly notes the “disproportionate political power” of Jews, which is “pound for pound the greatest of any ethnic/cultural group in America.” He goes on to explain that “Jewish economic influence and power are disproportionately concentrated in Hollywood, television, and in the news industry.“[/FONT]

You'd consider 11% a large Jewish prescence then? I wouldn't.
 
You'd consider 11% a large Jewish prescence then? I wouldn't.

Oh Yes I remember, just like you didn't see the agreed upon statistical findings of high rate of sex offenders being homosexual, and number of Iranian assylum seekers compared with Saudi ones. I'll make a note for the future that you have difficulties with simple math.

It is the established opinion of statisticians and intellectuals that Jews have an influence on American economics and politics that is far disproportionate to their population size.
 
2% of the American population Jews constituted 11% of the U.S. Senate in the 108th Congress.

You list a lot of accomplishments of Jews and the percentages of those in power. Yes, proportionately they do compromise a larger percentage of certain occupations than the population. Notice, though, that in all of them they are still the minority, so to say that they control everything would be a bit of a misnomer.

Influential, yes. In control, no.
 
You list a lot of accomplishments of Jews and the percentages of those in power. Yes, proportionately they do compromise a larger percentage of certain occupations than the population. Notice, though, that in all of them they are still the minority, so to say that they control everything would be a bit of a misnomer.

Influential, yes. In control, no.

I have to say, I agree.
 

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