Christian worship of Jesus..

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anatolian said:
OK. I understand your explanation. The human nature of Jesus is irrevelant when you worship him so you don't worship human.
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Çok iyi. Bu tam olarak olduğuna.




abu salaahudeen said:
So let me get this straight it does not mention of Jesus' divinity specifically but it speaks of his human self? So how is it that you derive this in such great length?
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It is the concept of the hypostatic union that is only inferred and not specifically spelled out in the Bible. I didn't say that Jesus' divinity isn't spelled out in the Bible. It is most certainly mentioned in statements as simple as Matthew's recounting of Jesus being called Immanuel "which means 'God with us'." Or Paul's statement that Jesus "being in very nature God."

Beacause a person performs miracles it does not this person a god incarnate
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Not in and by themselves. Taken together with the other things I listed and you have a clear presentation of Jesus as not only being understood to be divine by the Gospel writers but as understanding himself to be God as well. For no good teacher would claim to forgive sins -- something that Jesus' Jewish contemporaries understood only God has the authority to do -- unless he actually had the power and authority to do so. So, if Jesus is not God, then he is most certainly not the good teacher or prophet of God that others make him out to be, but rather a man who falsely claimed divine perogatives for himself. For, Jesus most certainly did claim to forgive sins and then later would confer this to his disciples through the giving of the Holy Spirit (God present in their lives). Such a claim if true means that he is God, and if false means that he is as antithetical to the ways of God as the devil himself. There is no inbetween ground.
 
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You know , a good believer in christianity will say : Ok muslim sis bro you are right and i'm convinced in your point of view ... But we have the nukes.
 
Getoffmyback said:
You know , a good believer in christianity will say : Ok muslim sis bro you are right and i'm convinced in your point of view ... But we have the nukes.
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Your "way of life" may be undisclosed, but your cynicism is now out there for all to see.
 
Getoffmyback said:
What do you say to director of mounty python and the life of brian ? And the holy grail? What cynicism exactly you see here?
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I do see them as cynics, and sarcastic cynics to boot, lampooning everything in sight.

Also, I don't like their stuff and find it generally more repulsive than comedic in nature. So, as a rule, I don't watch them. If you're post was a take off from their work, it would have gone completely over my head.
 
Grace Seeker said:
I do see them as cynics, and sarcastic cynics to boot, lampooning everything in sight.

Also, I don't like their stuff and find it generally more repulsive than comedic in nature. So, as a rule, I don't watch them. If you're post was a take off from their work, it would have gone completely over my head.
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Well i'm lebanese and i do believe in the american constitution of liberties. Are you american?
 
Getoffmyback said:
Well i'm lebanese and i do believe in the american constitution of liberties. Are you american?
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Yes, though that could be said of people from many different countries in the Americas over an area extremely geographically diverse ranging from Canada to Chile. More specifically I was born and raised in the United States of America and am a citizen of the same.

Now, how is that relevant to any of the present conversation?
 
Grace Seeker said:
Yes, though that could be said of people from many different countries in the Americas over an area extremely geographically diverse ranging from Canada to Chile. More specifically I was born and raised in the United States of America and am a citizen of the same.

Now, how is that relevant to any of the present conversation?
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you accusing me of cynicism, you are violating my rights of freedom of speach...:)

by the way do you always use scriptures in your answers , why not logic?
 
Getoffmyback said:
you accusing me of cynicism, you are violating my rights of freedom of speach...:)
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You're free to be a cynic and present yourself that way, and I'm free to label your comments as being cynical.


by the way do you always use scriptures in your answers , why not logic?
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Interesting question, but not well founded in actual facts as it seems to presuppose things that aren't even close to being true, namely: that I "always" use scriptures in my answers, and that I object to the use of logic.
 
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Grace Seeker said:
You're free to be a cynic and present yourself that way, and I'm free to label your comments as being cynical.




Interesting question, but not well founded in actual facts as it seems to presuppose things that aren't even close to being true, names: that I "always" use scriptures in my answers, and that I object to the use of logic.
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if its for you..... you are to make Bible-obeying disciples of anybody that gets in your way!
i'm a logic guy. thx anyway
 
Grace Seeker said:
That's not actually what the Bible says.
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its not written in the bible its just a sentence to discribe you ...i didnt say its written in the bible or "the bible says", and i'll say it again ..."if its for you.....you are to make Bible-obeying disciples of anybody that gets in your way"
freedom of speach...u say i'm a cynic "well good" ...but its way much better of bein a Fundamentalist like you.
 
Getoffmyback said:
your reply below makes me believe that
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The quote you provide is so highly editted that it distorts what I actually said. You are the one that asserted that I did those things. I said that such an assertion was false and yet you use still use them as justification for your view with regard to me. Your claim with regard to yourself is "I'm a logic guy", but I don't see it evidenced in this thread yet.
 
Grace Seeker said:
The quote you provide is so highly editted that it distorts what I actually said. You are the one that asserted that I did those things. I said that such an assertion was false and yet you use still use them as justification for your view with regard to me. Your claim with regard to yourself is "I'm a logic guy", but I don't see it evidenced in this thread yet.
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"All is fair in love (and war)";D;D

carry on...


but remember freedom of speech. ok grace
 
Getoffmyback said:
"All is fair in love (and war)";D;D
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Do you really believe that? And which do you perceive yourself to be engaged in presently?



Getoffmyback said:
but remember freedom of speech. ok grace
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Which is still restricted when it comes to yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theather or committing slander. You've labelled me a "fundamentalist", you've also said that I "always" quote scripture and don't utilize logic. What evidence do you have for such statements that doesn't include egregious editing of my posts and misrepresentation of what I've actually said and believe?
 
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guys chill. and mr grace seeker i believe it was you who sugested we stay on topic in a different thread.

you wanna bash each other, then take it outside!! lol
 

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