I have strayed away from Islam

[S<Chowdhury]

I'm not trying to justify my actions by saying other muslim peers of my age did so too, its just a fact and its not my parents fault as they were too strict, not at all, i take full responsibility for my actions no one but me choose that path.

But you can't always use discipline but what i find with many parents is that its the only thing they use. U need a balance or if you keep using physical discipline or anything similar when your child is in his or her teens more likely than most it'll have the opposite desired effects.

 

[CosmicPathos]

I'm not trying to justify my actions by saying other muslim peers of my age did so too, its just a fact and its not my parents fault as they were too strict, not at all, i take full responsibility for my actions no one but me choose that path.

But you can't always use discipline but what i find with many parents is that its the only thing they use. U need a balance or if you keep using physical discipline or anything similar when your child is in his or her teens more likely than most it'll have the opposite desired effects.

I see what you mean. But I guess I have been blessed by God to have had old school parents who were educated yet also not so lenient to give into the desires of children. So i guess different things work for different type of children depending on their genetics.

 

[S<Chowdhury]

Asslam alaikum.
I am glad u tried to talk to allah, i want to try to get you to understand how allah felt when you did this. Now this is a hadith but dont no details. Imagine your in open land and your horse runs away. U have no other means of travel no communication. How would you feel? Devastated? Let down? Loose hope that ur horse will return. Then it does! Can u imagine the happiness? Unexplainable.
Thats how allah feels when we turn to him.
Heres a simple sentence: ya rabbi ighfirli. My god, forgive me.
Talk to allah again. Keep trying.
Dont say your drifting away. With my eyes you are coming towards us, towards islam. I want u to do something tomorow for allah. For e.g to please allah i will hug and kiss my parents,
I will give sadqa to a charity shop(pick a muslim one) i will spend a few moments having a chat with a lonley old women. Now whatever you choose to do, keep it a secret dont boast about it. Inshallah if you do things for allah he will do things for u. And soon he will comfort you.

Now this chick, i understand u not wanting to marry her. I want you to spend a week without her( i know u can do it, i have special feeling) now. In this week lots of talking to allah, find the meaning of salah, pray. Start off with 1/2 salahs. If u can do 5 great! Go to masjid. Pray with jamaat. When u go masjid give salam to all the brothers.
Dont overdo it. Just do what u can.
See how you feel.
You have done the hard bit, you made the first step. The rest, inshallah will be easy.

Sister everytime i read your replies they make me smile in the gd way because your filled with soo much faith n optimism, i liked the hadith especially. Hmmm tomorrow i will attempt to do something for Allah, I'm willing to try but when you say to spend a week without her, meaning i have to stop all contact with her?

I came here looking for guidance and i said i'm open minded about trying things to find my way back, so I'll give you my word in attempting everything you said for a week starting from monday, but then i really don't need to give you my word as the only person i'm fooling is myself if i don't do it, and God well he's the all knowing isn't he so i really can't cheat him can i .

 

[S<Chowdhury]

You have hit a very important point here. Muslims generally think its ok to live in a kaafir society as long as you are practicing your deen. But you just showed it that no matter what a Muslim does, living in a kaafir society WILL HAVE effects on him or his children ..... unless he cages and isolates himself from the society. Muslims must be migrating back to Muslims lands, even if they have to leave good jobs, if they want to protect their faith or their children's. Thats my opinion and I plan to do it as soon as I am done with my education. INshALLAH. Off topic though.

In all due respect no matter where you bring up your child, maybe its less likely for your child to get caught up in this in Muslim countries but it will happen, though the punishment is more severe for such behaviour, even faced with these stakes if a child really wants to do what ever wrongful activity he/she chooses and if they are smart enough to conceal it well, most often than not brother unfortunately they'll get away with it and other peers will start to get interested and the cycle continues. Yes some will get caught but by then the wrongful act has already been committed in most cases.

 

[Ramadhan]

Do we really know what Islam is made of? Its written in foreign tongue that i personally don't understand, I'm not sure about you brother if you understand the language but it was written over 1400 years ago, so are we really getting the truth or is it like Chinese whispers where a lot of things have been lost in translation etc

This should be a non-issue for you.
Chinese whisper is if the original source is already lost, but we all know that the Qur'an that we have today is exactly the same Qur'an that was revealed to the prophet Muhammad SAW 1400 years ago.

And the Qur'an is the only holy scripture that is unchanged since revelation.
The perfect case of chinese whisper is actually the bible, written tens of years to centuries after prophet Iesa pbuh was raised to heaven. Many of the authors of the bible are unknown, it has been translated so many times with different versions each time, we don't know how many passages were removed and how many were added, it has been revised so many times with different interpretations each time depending on the prevailing social/political conditions.
Right now, we don't know what exactly the true complete message of the bible were, and even bible scholars acknowledge this.

 

[ume-dawood]

Well, as i understood it you have this idea sine you were born in a muslim family, you are a muslim too. Well i do not agree with this idea as you admit that since you could think and act independentally you left this paths. Perhaps it wasn't your path from the very beginning. Islam does not accept and allows acceptance by force. Even if you are brought up as a muslim and follow the religion, you yourself in your heart, without any obligation have to accept Islam truthfully. Not because of the love of your parents, because you will get good wealth by being their heir, for your beloved or any love or reason other than Islam itself.

Again about that " book in foreign language", All the knowledge that you study now in english was not in english in the very first pplace. Its only in 17th and 18th century that english laguage was boen and polished. Once it was the language of most illiterate, trivial and down-trodden street folks which was not respected. Instead French, Latin, Spenish and other languages were in use. All this knowledge that has provided the basis for all this development and gave birth to science was originated by Arabs, in the same foreign laguage that our HOLY BOOK QURAN is today.
Now that world has become a global village, they translate every knowlege in every language. New discoveries which are made by Germans, Russians, China or any other nation get translated into other languages, We study them, use them and enjoy them.

I am glad that for once you trying to think rationally. But do not make excuses such as foreign language, age, peer pressure, GF. Grow up and get a life. Set your priority and research as you do for your career or other decision in life. Get a good translation of The Holy Book only if you are interested to study and listen being fair. Listen to explanation and bayans. If you have questions ask some good Imam. If you feel shy, go to an Imam who does not reside in the area that you hangout. And if this does not help, tell him that you are interested in islam and are researching and need some answers.

Yes Islam has many a things common with christianity (only the things that they didn't change as they have altered the divine revelations for their own convineince over the time). Islam is the very first and last religion that has been sent to humanbeings and as they forget it or alter the rules and add fake things the prophets were sent to set the records and accounts right and followup as you say it. Infact, they call it christianity because they name Prophet Iesa (May Allah Subahana-hu Ta-ala be pleased with him) christ and they name it after him.

you could in the same slang language call Islam something after the name of our Prophet(sall Allah-u-eleihi wa aalihi wa sallam). But we do not like it and do not allow it.

And if you read Quran you would come to know that this life is granted to you to live by your choice. So, you are told the dos and don'ts and now its up to you how you want to live and what you wan to score for the next life.

Why do people plead guilty to the worldly authorities who judge them. If you abide by the rule which are made by people like you and do not question them, how do you find in your heart to question Him who's authority and power is above all that you can think and imagine. In a court one hase to admit the charges, if they plead guilty, they still get the punishment but a little less. If they do not plead guilty, they still get punished but it's tough then and it might include other penalties for othe issues e.g misleading the law. But with Allah Subahana-hu Ta-ala if you plead guilty truthfully, it's all forgiven. Isn't that great?

Everybody has to start the search somewhere, I also started it late, much later than you. Start now. With an open and undobtful heart just study and look at the things rationally and logically. Best of luck.

www.divinesystemrestoration.com

 

[aadil77]

In all due respect no matter where you bring up your child, maybe its less likely for your child to get caught up in this in Muslim countries but it will happen, though the punishment is more severe for such behaviour, even faced with these stakes if a child really wants to do what ever wrongful activity he/she chooses and if they are smart enough to conceal it well, most often than not brother unfortunately they'll get away with it and other peers will start to get interested and the cycle continues. Yes some will get caught but by then the wrongful act has already been committed in most cases.

That is true bruv, it all depends on the upbringing. There has to be a balance between everything, the child has to be taught fear of Allah and conciousness of him - Taqwa, not just pure fear of parents. They might be able to conceal sins from their parents, but if they fear Allah and are aware that Allah sees everything then they will know that they will be unable to conceal their sins from Allah.

The main thing is they should be aware of the qualities of Allah. I know what you mean by desi parents, my parents have tried to have me on locks but I know if I really wanted to - I could get away with the worst of sins, but the reason I don't do them is not out of fear of my parents but out of fear of Allah, fear of Allahs punishment, fear of going astray and loosing my iman.

It doesn't matter what environment you're in you can be brought up as a practising muslim, it all depends on a good upbringing and islamic education.

 

[S<Chowdhury]

That is true bruv, it all depends on the upbringing. There has to be a balance between everything, the child has to be taught fear of Allah and conciousness of him - Taqwa, not just pure fear of parents. They might be able to conceal sins from their parents, but if they fear Allah and are aware that Allah sees everything then they will know that they will be unable to conceal their sins from Allah.

The main thing they should be aware of the qualities of Allah. I know what you mean by desi parents, my parents have tried to have me on locks but I know if I really wanted to - I could get away with the worst of sins, but the reason I don't do them is not out of fear of my parents but out of fear of Allah, fear of Allahs punishment, fear of going astray and loosing my iman.

It doesn't matter what environment you're in you can be brought up as a practising muslim, it all depends on a good upbringing and islamic education.

True that brother, fear of parents is not enough. I think it just really comes down to you at the end of the day, a parent can only do so much the rest is for you to decide. But i guess i'm going of the topic on this thread with this thats why i started another thread in the family section to debate the whole issue.

 

[brotherubaid]

Bro u mentuioned something about Islam comming after christianity n all n how it is all in arabic n how its been 1400 years n may be it all got mixed up.


well first of all Allah took it upon Himself to preserve the Quran , n Also the arabic language is still till this day spoken in many parts of the world , not to mention how easy it i sto learn it , so how n where will thins get confused n changed in translation?

Only if u could visit madeenah universiy in saudi arabia , n see some of the students there from ALL over the world n how they learn arabic n speak it , I mean i met brothers from stockholm! u name it , there are alll types of nationalities there , so this doubt should not even arise that May be it changed over the years co zit was in arabic , only if u knew in our past in india n pakistan Arabic would be a must to learn for the kids , it has only recently changed , N no Part of the Quran has been changed n the Sunnah has been procteted n sealed with a science know as the sciane of isnaad or chain of narrators , so AlhumdolILLAH notthing out of it will be distorted , n if some one tries the scholars n people of hadith in all times will correct it and take the newly added away frm the authentic.

N islam came after christianity n there are soo many same things in he both faith only show that IT was Allah who sent it to jesus n He sent it to Muhammad sala lahu alih wa sallam , why? coz obviously christians had lost the true teachings of christianity n innovated n lost monotheism , the religion of all prphets.

People all over the world are running to Islam , yet muslims are in doubt n running away?

Inna Lillah W Inna ilyahi rajoiun

Bro , i have a good news for u ,

If u repent n stay stead fast , Allah will change ur sins into good deeds , Yes! So frm one scale right to the other , just like that!

surah Al Furqaan Ayah 70

. Except those who repent and believe , and do righteous deeds, for those, Allâh will change their sins into good deeds, and Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful

The ayaat before it are also beautiful , check the out InshahAllah from 63 till this ayah 70.

 

[S<Chowdhury]

Thanx bro for you reply brotherubaid but also everyone else, I've tried to personally reply to every1 who gave me advice but forgive if i haven't. since i've started this thread I've been given an abundance of information, and i've started printing off many of the scriptures and advice that brothers and sisters have given me and started to read them, so bear with me whilst i try to digest all this information and try to research Islam myself, the links have been helpful. From tomorrow following the advice of one sister, i plan to set my priorities straight and give up a few things for a week and see how i feel about it. I'm not saying in a week everything will be fixed, i guess there is a long road ahead of me but i'm willing to try, so keep giving me advice every lil helps and I'll look at it with an open mind i guess.

 

[desert winds]

Asslam alaikum.
If u can do it for a week great! But you need to know yourself how much is suitable. If a week seems too much try 3 days.
Inshallah they will make a big difference.
I am here on this topic only to help you. It is our duty to help each other. Imagine if we didnt, would the ummah increase?
Every single one of us has been down. Some people trodd on us.others lift us up and push us to allah. And thats how it should be.
This emptiness your feeling is a great thing! So say alhamdolillah(thanks to allah) humans are ungrateful if allah gave us happiness would we remember him?
I am eager to hear of any progress u make.

 

[M..x]

I'm not easily offended Sis, so none taken, and its okey i don't mind the questions....

Goodies =)

"wouldn't i want to be with someone with the same goals in life as you? " My goal has always been to become successful, i guess i've been chasing material things but that is because its what's driven me so far in life. But referring to the question i guess we share the same goals, she wants success and other things aswell.

You seem to be mature in tha sense you know whats right from wrong. Bro, what are you guna get after you achieve all that success..? When you've got to tha top, then what? You'll just want to come crashing down.. So meny whu have reached tha top, 'lived tha high life' are yearning for a different life, they're escaping it? Buh fools like us are still chasing it, why dont we take heed from examples that we have aktally lived to see...
E.g tha story of Napolean, also known for his part in Outlawz, group wif Tupac...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYcJPyHITM4
Loon... Hip hp rapper...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1rVoaWnuUU

I think its proper inspriational looking at these brothers, it helps you find tha sweetness of iman again, and tha way they talk abouh Islam is just amaaazing... & these are people whu lived that crap buh yet out of all tha things in tha wurld, Islam is what appeals to them... Theres gotta be a reason for that right? No complex theories, debating, etc just evidence showing tha beauty of Islam...



" Different lifestyles we lead causes confusion when bringing up children"

This is the main issue, yet I'm still young and children etc hasn't really been the major topic but from what we've discussed so far hmm i know for a fact its a sin not to raise your child as a Muslim if your a Muslim yourself.
But hypothetically if i did marry her and we had children, hmm i guess i'd teach my children Islam and let them decide when they are old enough if they wish to be fully practising. This is what I'd probably do if i was a practising muslim or not.

TherforeI think stuff likes this needs to be discussed, if wou wish to find Islam again, du you not think that will severley impakt that? Don't you think its wiser to break up, and find your path, let her find hers and if its tha same one, then marry her?

In terms of the alcohol, clubbing, non-halal food....etc, well it mite be different for other people, but my gf doesn't drink.
The clubbing, she's told me she's been to a few, but whilst we've been together she hasn't but house parties are more of a place she'd rather socialise but i guess its no better than clubbing. In terms of the clubbing and if i'd allow my children to do so I'm not sure i'll have to ask her about that.
Halal food at home of course its halal for me and she hasn't got a problem with it, meat is meat to her, no difference if its blessed. And well since she's been with me there's no eating of the swine.

House parties = same thing. SubhanAllah! Man this Ummah is in pieces, even if we know clubbing is wrong, we're still contenplating sending our children there or not. =( Just a question? Would you alluw sendin your sister there? Is it oka for her to be surrounded where theres drink/waisemans etc... Yeah she might have the correkt intention, buh dont expekt fools lurking there to have aswell.
Your sister is just an example, no implication or offence intended.

Lastly asking her to convert, I will ask and try to make her see sense in God when I've resolved my own issues, but I've said from the beginning I'm not going to push her into a religion.

Good, buh ultimetly, if you find tha beauty of tha religon, its guna clash bigtim wit her views nah?

But i guess i'm more lucky than others, she's willing to compromise and give up a few things but then so am I. And well you may term it as a 'phase' but its not just because I'm not married to her legally doesn't mean its not serious nor will it just pass. But then that's my opinion.

Compromise to what extent?

Salaam

 

[gladTidings]

Salaam

Just one piece of advice: seek good company and make friends with some practicing muslims. It will help you incredibly.

“Man models himself after his companion; so let each one of you see who he chooses for companion” (At-Tirmidhi)

“The example of a good companion and a bad one is the bearer of musk and the worker on the bellows. A bearer of musk would give you some, you might buy some from him, or you might enjoy the fragrance of his musk. The worker on the bellows, on the other hand, might spoil your clothes with sparks from his bellows, or you get a bad smell from him.” (Reported by Al-Bukhari and Muslim, this version being Muslim’s)

Read more: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...nglish-Living_Shariah/LSELayout#ixzz0csfDc2RH

 

[S<Chowdhury]

You seem to be mature in tha sense you know whats right from wrong. Bro, what are you guna get after you achieve all that success..? When you've got to tha top, then what? You'll just want to come crashing down.. So meny whu have reached tha top, 'lived tha high life' are yearning for a different life, they're escaping it? Buh fools like us are still chasing it, why dont we take heed from examples that we have aktally lived to see...

Okey the videos were insightful i remember that song " I need a girl" gd song lol, but i already knew about the Muslim brothers in the industy, Mos Def, Lupe Fiasco, K'Naan to name a few, and I've heard there interviews about how they found emptiness in there life and then found Islam, then some are born Muslim. I see how i should take an example from them, they've lived their life did the "jet set lifestyle". Maybe a came off a little too materialistic, I'm not looking to become a billionaire just enough so i don't struggle in life, a little more humble rather than the fancy 20 room mansion. And when i reached where i want to be, hopefully i can retire and travel the world , IDK sister i really haven't thought that far ahead, I'm more interested in right now to be honest.

" Different lifestyles we lead causes confusion when bringing up children" TherforeI think stuff likes this needs to be discussed, if wou wish to find Islam again, du you not think that will severley impakt that? Don't you think its wiser to break up, and find your path, let her find hers and if its tha same one, then marry her? House parties = same thing.

And we will discuss it, but there is no point me discussing it now when I'm not even sure of my religion. Yes it will impact the relationship, I'm gna change if i start practising Islam again, lets be real now. But right now I feel even if i was a practising Muslim i would not give her up. Maybe it will change after this week as I'm embarking on attempting to have no contact with her for a week, who knows but right now thats how I'm feeling.

Sister I think you've stereotyped my GF forgive me if I'm wrong as them white women you see go clubbing nearly every nite of the week and not dressing modestly. Maybe i should make it clear that she's actually not from Eng, she originates from Canada and she's a mix of Canadian and Native American.

Man this Ummah is in pieces, even if we know clubbing is wrong, we're still contenplating sending our children there or not. =( Just a question? Would you alluw sendin your sister there? Is it oka for her to be surrounded where theres drink/waisemans etc... Yeah she might have the correkt intention, buh dont expekt fools lurking there to have aswell

As a teen I've done it all, so i know what happens at house parties and clubs so i really can't say really to my sister not to go because then I'm a double standard. I'll tell her the truth and what happens at these events, and even with my experience and my warning if she still wishes to go, well I'm not prepared to lock her in her. But that doesn't mean i'd stop trying to tell her not to go, i won't give up but like i said i won't physically stop her.

Good, buh ultimetly, if you find tha beauty of tha religon, its guna clash bigtim wit her views nah?

Well it hasn't been that bad so far compromises have worked, I'm not gonna gloss over it and say everything is fine. We have the Ups and Downs, we disagree over things, that if i was with a Muslim Wife i would probably not have a problem with but which couple doesn't have arguments married or not. But we both end up at the end of the day still wanting to be with each other, maybe that might not last forever but does every Muslim marriage last forever divorces happen.

You know Next week after I'll actually sit down with her and discuss the issues that you've raised. Maybe I can give a more in depth answer then. So if you got anymore questions send me them.

 

[S<Chowdhury]

Asslam alaikum.
If u can do it for a week great! But you need to know yourself how much is suitable. If a week seems too much try 3 days.
Inshallah they will make a big difference.
I am here on this topic only to help you. It is our duty to help each other. Imagine if we didnt, would the ummah increase?
Every single one of us has been down. Some people trodd on us.others lift us up and push us to allah. And thats how it should be.
This emptiness your feeling is a great thing! So say alhamdolillah(thanks to allah) humans are ungrateful if allah gave us happiness would we remember him?
I am eager to hear of any progress u make.

I think I'm able to do a week hopefully, we'll see hmm I'll let you know through the week. thanx

 

[brotherubaid]

Alright brother , May Allah help u n guide u

Take ur time , one day at a time InshahAllah , I will InshahAllah keep u in my duaa bro , trust me when u really see the other side , it will be soo sweet n beautiful u will hate ur past life


Like ibn al qayyim tells about ibn taymiyah who used to say
In this world there is a Paradise, whoever does not enter it will not enter the Paradise of the Hereafter ---- The paradise of being righteous , the paradise of righteous actions n a good life itself is a paradise , I hope u get to taste it , there is notthing sweeter n more satisfying.

He also said

The one who is (truly) imprisoned is the one whose heart is imprisoned from Allaah and the captivated one is the one whose desires have enslaved him

I would suggest articles n works by Ibn Qayyim , he writes about the heart a lot , n his works really do touch the heart , Bro its all about the heart really , if the heart becomes right everything else falls into place.


Check

The Description of Paradise By Ibn Al Qayyim
http://istighfar.wordpress.com/2007/07/20/ibn-al-qayyims-beautiful-description-of-paradise

Bro do check the above link out , if not then do check out its end , its beautiful i will go ahead n post it here

And if you ask about the Day of Increase (in reward) and the visit of the all-Mighty, all-Wise, and the sight of His Face – free from any resemblance or likeness to anything – as you see the Sun in the middle of the day and the full Moon on a cloudless night, then listen on the day that the caller will call: ‘O People of Paradise! Your Lord – Blessed and Exalted – requests you to visit Him, so come to visit Him!’ So they will say: ‘We hear and obey!’

Until, when they finally reach the wide valley where they will all meet – and none of them will turn down the request of the caller – the Lord – Blessed and Exalted – will order His Chair to be brought there. Then, pulpits of light will emerge, as well as pulpits of pearls, gemstone, gold, and silver. The lowest of them in rank will sit on sheets of musk, and will not see what those who are on the chairs above them are given. When they are comfortable where they are sitting and are secure in their places, and the caller calls: ‘O People of Paradise! You have an appointment with Allaah in which He wishes to reward you!’ So they will say: ‘And what is that reward? Has He not already made our faces bright, made our scales heavy, entered us into Paradise, and pushed us away from the Fire?’


And when they are like that, all of a sudden a light shines that encompasses all of Paradise. So, they raise their heads, and, behold: the Compeller – Exalted is He, and Holy are His Names – has come to them from above them and majestified them and said: ‘O People of Paradise! Peace be upon you!’ So, this greeting will not be responded to with anything better than: ‘O Allaah! You are Peace, and from You is Peace! Blessed are You, O possessor of Majesty and Honor!’ So the Lord – Blessed and Exalted – will laugh to them and say: ‘O People of Paradise! Where are those who used to obey Me without having ever seen Me? This is the Day of Increase!’

So, they will all give the same response: ‘We are pleased, so be pleased with us!’ So, He will say:

‘O People of Paradise! If I were not pleased with you, I would not have made you inhabitants of My Paradise! So, ask of Me!’ So, they will all give the same response: ‘Show us your Face so that we may look at it!’ So, the Lord – Mighty and Majestic – will remove his covering and will majestify them and will cover them with His Light, which, if Allaah – the Exalted – had not Willed not to burn them, would have burned them.

And there will not remain a single person in this gathering except that his Lord – the Exalted – will speak to him and say: ‘Do you remember the day that you did this and that?’ and He will remind him of some of his bad deeds in the Worldy life, so he will say: ‘O Lord! Will you not forgive me?’ So, He will say: ‘Of course! You have not reached this position of yours (in Paradise) except by my forgiveness.’

So, how sweet is this speech to the ears, and how cooled are the righteous eyes by the glance at His Noble Face in the Afterlife…

{Some faces that Day will be shining and radiant, looking at their Lord…} (al-Qiyaamah:22-3)


NEXT ARTICLE
A sin that Leads To Jannah

http://khaldun.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/a-sin-that-leads-to-jannah/
or http://istighfar.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/a-sin-that-leads-to-jannah/


This is a link to some of the nice little articles by ibn al qayyim , browse the two pages , its pretty nice
http://istighfar.wordpress.com/category/ibn-al-qayyim/

 

[S<Chowdhury]

Salaam

Just one piece of advice: seek good company and make friends with some practicing muslims. It will help you incredibly.

“Man models himself after his companion; so let each one of you see who he chooses for companion” (At-Tirmidhi)

Hmm well I've got a few Muslim ppl as friends but to be honest most of them are the " Modern Muslims" hence the reason we get along quite well lol. Hmm but many of friends would be supportive i guess if i told them whats been going on religion wise, but well my friends never forced me into the things i did, it was all my choice. But i guess if you stick around gd muslim ppl you won't be given the choice of doing bad things.

thanx 4 da advice thou

 

[aadil77]

Hmm well I've got a few Muslim ppl as friends but to be honest most of them are the " Modern Muslims" hence the reason we get along quite well lol. Hmm but many of friends would be supportive i guess if i told them whats been going on religion wise, but well my friends never forced me into the things i did, it was all my choice. But i guess if you stick around gd muslim ppl you won't be given the choice of doing bad things.

thanx 4 da advice thou

no offence bro but the whole 'modern muslim' concept is hilarious, people have to know it aint acceptable, you're either muslim or you're not. You can't pick or choose what you think is ok.

InshAllah you'll be able to guide them soon yourself

My mates aren't practising muslims but they atleast acknowledge that what they're doing is wrong

 

[S<Chowdhury]

no offence bro but the whole 'modern muslim' concept is hilarious, people have to know it aint acceptable, you're either muslim or you're not. You can't pick or choose what you think is ok.

InshAllah you'll be able to guide them soon yourself

My mates aren't practising muslims but they atleast acknowledge that what they're doing is wrong

None taken i despise that word as well " Modern Muslim" if religion was all about choosing certain rules i wouldn't be here asking for help lool

 

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We would NOT be able to handle a single second in the hell fire my Brother, we cannot even imagine how terrifying this will be so we should do our best in this life to seek protection from it and make our good deeds balance as heavy as possible!

After reading Hamza81 reply and following the links which go on to talk about the hell fire :raging:, Brother I don't know how to quite explain it but the promise of eternal hellfire for not repenting my sins etc no longer frightens me, it has no effect on me at all. I think I've said this before but even with the descriptiveness of what happens in hell, I feel nothing. I do believe in the after life i guess but now i'm wondering have i lost my faith in the after life as well? Or is it natural sometimes not feel fear of Hell and God's punishments?