UKIP woos white working class with call for total ban on burkas

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I am a bit upset with the UKIP party. I was hoping they'd be just like a more Eurosceptic political party version of the Conservatives, however they appear to have completely changed.

Keep in mind though, that they won't be elected. Not so long ago their newly elected leader said that if we more or less left the European Union or held a referendum on the Lisbon treaty that they would disband as their mission would be complete. Just the fact that they've admitted they were a one-issue party after years of pretending otherwise will demolish their vote support.

Unfortunately, it'll go to the BNP.
 
squiggle said:
Why can't people have the freedom to wear what they want :(
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Clothes can be offensive; the burka may be offensive to conservatives in the UK, and if a female went to Saudi Arabia dressed in a short skirt and belly revealing T-shirt, no doubt the people there would be offended. If you wore an American military uniform in Iran the authorities may be offended. Different clothes offend different peoples and cultures- that's just the way it is. However, the real issue here is that the Burka doesn't offend the majority of Britons- some may view it as ridiculous, others may view it as extreme, but only feminists and those on the far right can actually lay claim to it being offensive, and these are not the majority of people. In addition, the Niqaab is seldom ever worn by Muslims in the UK- as I previously mentioned, I've only ever seen the Burka worn around 10 times. It's hardly a major concern for the majority of people.
 
haha theres nothing in there law thats written that wearing certain clothes is a crime. the sisters should wear there niqaabs they cant do anything.. what can they honestly do?? throw them in prison?? those british people make me laugh. i mean this is just hilarious
 
cat eyes said:
haha theres nothing in there law thats written that wearing certain clothes is a crime. the sisters should wear there niqaabs they cant do anything.. what can they honestly do?? throw them in prison?? those british people make me laugh. i mean this is just hilarious
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Oh yes, people are having their rights threatened, utterly hilarious!
 
Supreme said:
Oh yes, people are having their rights threatened, utterly hilarious!
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your government is going to be a laughing stock when these stupid rule is put into place thats what i mean! when Queens and princesses were dressing modest for centuries and not coming in front of any strange man only her husband. a woman can't dress modest, yet people are allowed to walk the streets naked and thats why so many young girls get raped and attacked
 
cat eyes said:
your government is going to be a laughing stock when these stupid rule is put into place thats what i mean! when Queens and princesses were dressing modest for centuries and not coming in front of any strange man only her husband.
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I disagree with the ban, and it is never going to be put into place. It's a suggestion by a joke of a party.
a woman can't dress modest, yet people are allowed to walk the streets naked and thats why so many young girls get raped and attacked
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Wait, what? So it's the woman's fault she's been raped- heck, she deserved to be raped because she was wearing immodest clothing. Is that what you're saying? Just because a woman is not dressing modestly, please don't ever make out it's her fault she got raped. It's the rapist's fault, not the victims. If men weren't so immoral, they wouldn't feel the need to rape women, irregardless of their clothing.
 
cat eyes said:
thats why so many young girls get raped and attacked
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Dressing in a immodest way and then being intoxicated for instance is dangerous behaviour, they become more of desirable target, of course.

But is it really her fault that a sick man sinned gravely and violated her? It is, however, perhaps partly her fault that she in particular was chosen over another woman.

But I personally would say No, you are blaming the victim completely here, I agree completely with Supreme and ask you the same Q what your saying is if you dress immodestly it gives men the right to rape you ?
 
Supreme said:
I disagree with the ban, and it is never going to be put into place. It's a suggestion by a joke of a party.


Wait, what? So it's the woman's fault she's been raped- heck, she deserved to be raped because she was wearing immodest clothing. Is that what you're saying? Just because a woman is not dressing modestly, please don't ever make out it's her fault she got raped. It's the rapist's fault, not the victims. If men weren't so immoral, they wouldn't feel the need to rape women, irregardless of their clothing.
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don't want to get into debate with you now about this because its another topic entirely but yes it is one of the major factors why a woman gets raped. not blaming the woman but the society and its influence. why don't you go to a prison and meet with a prisoner and ask why he rapes he will be sure to tell u it has also been proven that addiction to porn turns men into rapists. but yeah there is some decent men out there who would not touch a woman who is half naked but not all men think like that so why take that risk.
 
cat eyes said:
don't want to get into debate with you now about this because its another topic entirely but yes it is one of the major factors why a woman gets raped. not blaming the woman but the society and its influence. why don't you go to a prison and meet with a prisoner and ask why he rapes he will be sure to tell u it has also been proven that addiction to porn turns men into rapists. but yeah there is some decent men out there who would not touch a woman who is half naked but not all men think like that so why take that risk.
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Uhm, no.

I suspect the converse could be true in some cases. Any statistics?
 
We may be straying from the topic if we start discussing rape statistics...
 
A women has a part to play in getting themselves into the risky position, but just because she's dressed immodestly doesn't give men an invitation.

Why should everyone else change because your having "Immoral thoughts"?

Yeah we are straying away from the topic, should start a new thread about this
 
cat eyes said:
don't want to get into debate with you now about this because its another topic entirely but yes it is one of the major factors why a woman gets raped. not blaming the woman but the society and its influence. why don't you go to a prison and meet with a prisoner and ask why he rapes he will be sure to tell u it has also been proven that addiction to porn turns men into rapists. but yeah there is some decent men out there who would not touch a woman who is half naked but not all men think like that so why take that risk.
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Rubbish. Complete rubbish. Let's start another thread, shall we?
 
When will those morons LEAVE US ALONE?!

Some people STRONGLY need a LIFE!

How idotic, and still they speak rubbish about Justice, freedom blaa blaaa

Their "öhöm öhöm our country's values"

How idiotic are their stupid theories...
 
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_muslim_ said:
When will those morons LEAVE US ALONE?!

Some people STRONGLY need a LIFE!

How idotic, and still they speak rubbish about Justice, freedom blaa blaaa

Their "öhöm öhöm our country's values"

How idiotic are their stupid theories...
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i understand your anger- its like were being attacked and singled out becasue were not naked for all to see!
the goverment is attacking the muslim women due to the way we dress- first it was the viel and now the whole 1 piece which majority of sisters wear-

the point is now- if it is banned what are we suppose to do then? Allah has ordered the believeing women to cover- i am really concerened and would like to know what the sisters feel, what they would do and what the brothers feel about their wives and mothers and sisters in regards to this.

another thing i heard was to ban it form buses- this is the utmost piece of sh!t i have ever heard- what are we suppose to do? take off our coverng when we jump aboard and then jump off and cover ourselves again?

then to ban it form schools- again another sneaky way to enforce a full blown ban-
 

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