Is it a Womens fault for being raped?

[S<Chowdhury]

Dressing in a immodest way and then being intoxicated for instance is dangerous behaviour, they become more of desirable target, of course.

But is it really the womens fault that a sick man sinned gravely and violated her? It is, however, perhaps partly her fault that she in particular was chosen over another woman.

I'd say it mostly the Rapist fault, he's the one who's actually gone and committed a grave crime. But the victim to a certain extent had a part to play in getting herself in that risky positions in the first place.

 

[Cabdullahi]

if you keep it on show expect it to go and as for the thief his neck should be sliced really slow

 

[Maryan0]

If someone foolishley carries a bag of money in a neighborhood famous for muggings it does not mean they deserve to be robbed. Rape is a violation of the highest order. However women should not put themselves in a situation that leaves them in a position to be raped there are sick people who take advantage of people and women are vulnerable in many ways and should protect themselves. The whole "they asked for it" is insensitive. Nobody asks to be raped, murdered or violated in any way. Rape is a punishable crime in Islam.
salam

 

[Beardo]

To a certain extent, yes.

I mean, she's obviously trying to show off her beauty and she should know that beauty is attractive to the opposite gender, or in this day and age, even to the same gender Inna Lillah.

 

[Asiyaah]

I say it is not her fault. In western culture the media is bombarding women to dress immodestly. Many young women feel this is expected of them. Also rape usually has nothing to do with sex but a man feeling powerful over a victim.

 

[Cabdullahi]

I say it is not her fault. In western culture the media is bombarding women to dress immodestly. Many young women feel this is expected of them. Also rape usually has nothing to do with sex but a man feeling powerful over a victim.

In the west men are also bombarded to only think about sex through pornography that teaches rape

 

[zacc]

No it is not any woman's fault for being raped what sort of question is this?????

Have you dealt with women who have have been subjected to this barbaric ordeal???? trust me it is the most hardest of the jobs when you deal with rape, child abuse, domestic violence. What can you say if a woman dresses in a certain type of clothing she is asking for it.

A woman has the right to choose what she wears. I know women who have been abused in muslim countries and it is a sad fact of life that is goes on.

I hope these sick perverts get the justice they deserve when the meet their victim on the day of judgement.

 

[Cabdullahi]

women who go out to night clubs just wearing undergarments that look like two pieces of dental floss stuck together and milk bladder shields drinking all the alcohol there is despite knowing the risks are not to be blamed not one iota!

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

I mean, she's obviously trying to show off her beauty and she should know that beauty is attractive to the opposite gender, or in this day and age, even to the same gender Inna Lillah.

believe it or not most women who dress immodestly do so to make themselves feel good, not to say "im an invitation to all" very rarely will you get a woman dressing immodestly to attract the opposite gender-there is a different, though very subtle.

why do you men think the world revolves around you? maybe he should learn how to restrain himself as well no ones putting a gun to his head and telling you to go after her! some men will look at anything that moves :hmm: so you're equally as responsible.

but a woman should be cautious as well the hijab will act as a deterrent (of course that isnt to imply that it is her fault if she gets raped) for example you dont go to narrow alley ways at night-that's just asking for trouble.

women who go out to night clubs just wearing undergarments that look like two pieces of dental floss stuck together and milk bladder shields drinking all the alcohol there is despite knowing the risks are not to be blamed not one iota!

im not saying that risks arent higher or that she should be dressed like that, but how someone acts and how someone esle reacts, are 2 different things.

 

[Cabdullahi]

that stuff is confusing maybe they shouldn't wear a hoes uniform so that the threat can be eradicated ? sounds like a good idea

 

[Kinza]

you cant blame someone for the act of another. The women is responsible for the way she dresses just as the man is for his actions. Sure, men might get tempted but its up to them to control themselves (self-control?) because its their problem not the woman's.

 

[Salahudeen]

I think it's the man's fault, but if you have a women fully covered not exposing any of her body, and a women walking round half naked which 1 is going to appeal to the rapists desire and lure him?

 

[Italianguy]

NEVER in any way shape or form is it ever a womans fault if she is raped! ....ever!:heated:

God forgive me for what I may become, come a day i catch a rapist in my hands:raging::raging::raging::raging::raging::raging::raging::raging:

 

[Italianguy]

Does this thread actually have any merit? Or a point? There shouldn't even be a chance for someone to vote yes....or maybe:hmm:


Moddddddddssssss!

 

[Donia]

In my opinion, I do not believe it is a woman's fault for being raped nor do I believe she is asking for it.
For women who are not Muslims (and even some who are - Astaghfurillah), it is normal nowadays to go out in shorts and a tank top in the summer and that is not considered "revealing" in some cultures. Of course in Islam women are supposed to dress differently but I'm just trying to explain that how some women do not even see a "problem" with the way they are dressed and almost even think they are dressing conservatively and they may not know any better.

Just like a woman should try to guard herself by dressing conservatively and modest to deter such actions as much as she can, a man should guard himself and lower his gaze. If he sees a woman dressed in a way that attracts him, then he should look away.

I know it is usually men as the rapist and women as the victims but there are cases where the roles are reversed also.
The point being that each individual is responsible for their own actions and we will all be judged accordingly.

 

[-Elle-]

this is such a dumb question (no offense to thread starter)


believe it or not most women who dress immodestly do so to make themselves feel good, not to say "im an invitation to all" very rarely will you get a woman dressing immodestly to attract the opposite gender-there is a different, though very subtle.

why do you men think the world revolves around you? maybe he should learn how to restrain himself as well no ones putting a gun to his head and telling you to go after her! some men will look at anything that moves :hmm: so you're equally as responsible.

but a woman should be cautious as well the hijab will act as a deterrent (of course that isnt to imply that it is her fault if she gets raped) for example you dont go to narrow alley ways at night-that's just asking for trouble.



im not saying that risks arent higher or that she should be dressed like that, but how someone acts and how someone esle reacts, are 2 different things.

Very well said, Jazak'Allah kheir.

Believe it or not, many, many women have low self-esteem, which is why they wear what they wear. I am not saying all of them dress like that because of low self-esteem, Allahu 3alam of their intentions, but many of them do.

They need a look or a comment here and there to feel "beautiful". That's usually what they get, and they don't expect anything more, and nothing more should be expected by men.

The image that is projected by the media is their only referral to what "beauty" is; which is why they display themselves the way they do. sub7an'Allah and AlhamdulillAh for hijab, i'll never say that enough.


That does not justify rape whatsoever. It is one of the worst violations which may exist; nothing may ever justify it nor excuse it in the least bit. We have no idea the psychological and emotional effect it has on a woman, or man even,and insh'Allah none of us will ever know it.

 

[CosmicPathos]

^^ so women have low-esteem and they wear ****ty clothings to increase their esteem eh? Way to go. Maybe in the same way, a rapist commits a crime because he has low-esteem and cannot establish a relationship with women. So he insteads gives in to his carnal desires and spreads his seed without involving in all the baggage that comes in relationships...... of course rape is despicable but please do not give excuses to such women! There are indeed few sisters who suffer this horrendous crime despite them being fully modest and I indeed feel for them.

My opinion does not matter an iota to Allah. I will state what I have come to realize is Islam's opinion. No soul shall burden the sin of another. A male rapist is responsible for his actions. At the same time, a woman, who got raped for being dressed immodest, will be punished, at the very least, for immodest dressing, regardless of whether she got raped or not. Depending on the situation, the Qadi has the permission to apply ta'zirr punishment so that other women do not follow this ****ty woman.

Women who have good conscience, do not dress immodestly. On the contrary, the women who dress immodestly are actually quite confident and take part in pornographic films because they like it. They get money for it and they choose to do it. Very few of them actually realize down the road that they were sinning and get out of that business. Its a two way business. men buy porn. Women participate in porn. Each is punishable for his role, according to Islam.

 

[Snowflake]

But is it really the womens fault that a sick man sinned gravely and violated her? It is, however, perhaps partly her fault that she in particular was chosen over another woman.

It is your fault if knowing there are burglars about you left your doors and windows open and then your house got burgled? A woman has some responsibility to protect herself. Not all rapes occur because a man wants to yield power over a woman. Some rapes are purely for the sake of wanting to commit the s**ual act with a woman, either because she's taken the rapist's fancy or because he just wants to commit the act. This is a fact and men have admitted to it. A scantily dressed woman who gets raped is stupid and putting herself at risk. A rapist is evil. Both are guilty albeit in different ways.



Also not many people know this. In the British Army, if you steal anything you get 'stuck' (some term for punishment). BUT YOU ALSO GET STUCK FOR ALLOWING IT TO HAPPEN! So both the victim and perpetrator are blamed!

Yet, when a muslim woman takes steps to protect herself by concealing herself, it is called oppression! Oh the double standards of the West! :heated:

 

[Raaina]

^^ so women have low-esteem and they wear ****ty clothings to increase their esteem eh? Way to go. Maybe in the same way, a rapist commits a crime because he has low-esteem and cannot establish a relationship with women. So he insteads gives in to his carnal desires and spreads his seed without involving in all the baggage that comes in relationships......

The difference in that is, one is a crime and the other is not.

How can anyone say a woman is partly to blame if she is jumped upon and dragged into some bushes and raped?

What happend to people being allow to wear what they want?

Not every woman wear's skimpy clothing and not only women in skimpy clothing get raped.

 

[Cabdullahi]

^^ so women have low-esteem and they wear ****ty clothings to increase their esteem eh? Way to go. Maybe in the same way, a rapist commits a crime because he has low-esteem and cannot establish a relationship with women. So he insteads gives in to his carnal desires and spreads his seed without involving in all the baggage that comes in relationships...... of course rape is despicable but please do not give excuses to such women! There are indeed few sisters who suffer this horrendous crime despite them being fully modest and I indeed feel for them.

My opinion does not matter an iota to Allah. I will state what I have come to realize is Islam's opinion. No soul shall burden the sin of another. A male rapist is responsible for his actions. At the same time, a woman, who got raped for being dressed immodest, will be punished, at the very least, for immodest dressing, regardless of whether she got raped or not. Depending on the situation, the Qadi has the permission to apply ta'zirr punishment so that other women do not follow this ****ty woman.

Women who have good conscience, do not dress immodestly. On the contrary, the women who dress immodestly are actually quite confident and take part in pornographic films because they like it. They get money for it and they choose to do it. Very few of them actually realize down the road that they were sinning and get out of that business. Its a two way business. men buy porn. Women participate in porn. Each is punishable for his role, according to Islam.

^ thats my boi!