Women and men in the mosque

[ardianto]

If I disagree with the rule women are not allowed to pray in main hall, this is because I see that is unfair.

I am back.

I was too fast to make a conclusion "pray in different room is unfair". That's because I never see masjid with two rooms in my place. I found a complain from sister in web, but when I read again I found that was happened in masjid with single hall where sister are not allowed to pray in this masjid hall but must pray in other room that not pray room, i.e study room or even terrace. This is unfair, of course. But also I read some experiences from sisters who prayed in masjid with two sections, there was no complain from them and I think this is not unfair.

I have an experience. In my city, there is a hotel that has two convention rooms. Second room beside the first room is smaller but there is no different in luxury and facility. One day when I visited this hotel I was very surprised when I saw those rooms became one large hall and the wall between those rooms was gone. Then I noticed, the wall between those rooms actually not wall but 'lift up' type door with good design that looked like a wall.

I think we can adopt this design when we build a masjid. We can have masjid with single or double hall in a simple way, just open or close the 'wall'.

 

[sevgi]

I am back.

I was too fast to make a conclusion "pray in different room is unfair". That's because I never see masjid with two rooms in my place. I found a complain from sister in web, but when I read again I found that was happened in masjid with single hall where sister are not allowed to pray in this masjid hall but must pray in other room that not pray room, i.e study room or even terrace. This is unfair, of course. But also I read some experiences from sisters who prayed in masjid with two sections, there was no complain from them and I think this is not unfair.

I have an experience. In my city, there is a hotel that has two convention rooms. Second room beside the first room is smaller but there is no different in luxury and facility. One day when I visited this hotel I was very surprised when I saw those rooms became one large hall and the wall between those rooms was gone. Then I noticed, the wall between those rooms actually not wall but 'lift up' type door with good design that looked like a wall.

I think we can adopt this design when we build a masjid. We can have masjid with single or double hall in a simple way, just open or close the 'wall'.

Salams brother,

You knw what I found very interesting? I spent two weeks in Indonesia; a week in the city and a week in a more rural area. What I found in the city was that at smaller masjids, men and women would share the wudu area. I found it kind of odd watching women sit beside men, roll up their sleeves and pants and take wudu.

In fact, at one bathroom (not at a masjid), I had to ask the male attendant to leave coz I had to take my hijab off to take wudu...he didnt seem to want to leave so I had to get a female attendant to tell him off...

Nevertheless, the masjids were segregated in whatever way possible. How logical is it for a man and a woman to take wudu beside eachother and then separate for prayer?

Again, this was only in small masjid thingys (which are everywhere). Is it just the people who don't really care or is there a system which finds communal wudu taking normal?

 

[ardianto]

In fact, at one bathroom (not at a masjid), I had to ask the male attendant to leave coz I had to take my hijab off to take wudu...he didnt seem to want to leave so I had to get a female attendant to tell him off...

Maybe he did not understand. Not easy to find someone who understand English language in Indonesia.

And about wudu area. Honestly, sister, your post made me laugh for few minutes. ;D. I just realized if we are in Indonesia never care about this. Actually, those wudu area are for men, and women usually use bathroom or wudu in their home before go to masjid. We never realize it because women never protest about the wudu area.

But in grand masjids, there are wudu areas for women.

Thanks for your input sister.

 

[cat eyes]

I am back.

I was too fast to make a conclusion "pray in different room is unfair". That's because I never see masjid with two rooms in my place. I found a complain from sister in web, but when I read again I found that was happened in masjid with single hall where sister are not allowed to pray in this masjid hall but must pray in other room that not pray room, i.e study room or even terrace. This is unfair, of course. But also I read some experiences from sisters who prayed in masjid with two sections, there was no complain from them and I think this is not unfair.

I have an experience. In my city, there is a hotel that has two convention rooms. Second room beside the first room is smaller but there is no different in luxury and facility. One day when I visited this hotel I was very surprised when I saw those rooms became one large hall and the wall between those rooms was gone. Then I noticed, the wall between those rooms actually not wall but 'lift up' type door with good design that looked like a wall.

I think we can adopt this design when we build a masjid. We can have masjid with single or double hall in a simple way, just open or close the 'wall'.

i honestly cannot see whats unfair about it. from what i was thought about islam is that Allah loves the woman so much that he made it easier for her to pray in her home and not have to travel to any mosque.(this is why haven little space at the mosque dose not really bother me and i don't complain) i honestly could not see myself getting up and out everyday to go to mosque to do my salah it would be very tiring.. on top of that Allah gives the woman rewards for it subhanAllah i dont know what the issue is really.

if a woman had to pray in the mosque everyday she'd probably complain about that to. humans are never happy i think. i do go to my local mosque every week we have a lot of space but not as big as the mens area,they also made the mens part more comfy..cos brothers travel there everyday so they tend to stay most of the day there but my home is more comfy.

 

[Esther462]

When I travile to my local mosque. iI have to pray in a room at the top of the building and this room isn't as nice as the men's rooms and the womens rooms are used as the school at the weekends so women can't pray in the mosque at weekends.

 

[ardianto]

i honestly cannot see whats unfair about it. from what i was thought about islam is that Allah loves the woman so much that he made it easier for her to pray in her home and not have to travel to any mosque.(this is why haven little space at the mosque dose not really bother me and i don't complain) i honestly could not see myself getting up and out everyday to go to mosque to do my salah it would be very tiring.. on top of that Allah gives the woman rewards for it subhanAllah i dont know what the issue is really.

You did not complain because you prayed in masjid. And if you prayed in little space, that's because they were fair. Mostly jama'ah in masjid are men, of course men need larger space.
Read again my post above. I talked about masjid where women are not allowed to pray in masjid hall but must pray in other place/room that not masjid.
From my knowledge, there is no any ayaah or hadits that say : women are not allowed to pray in masjid. If Allah permit women pray in masjid, why men must forbid women pray in masjid ?. I know, women are ordered to pray in their homes. But actually that is when they are in their homes. When they are not in their homes, like in traveling, women must pray in masjid because this is better than pray in car park.

if a woman had to pray in the mosque everyday she'd probably complain about that to. humans are never happy i think. i do go to my local mosque every week we have a lot of space but not as big as the mens area,they also made the mens part more comfy..cos brothers travel there everyday so they tend to stay most of the day there but my home is more comfy.

In my place, usually women pray in masjid only in ramadan (taraweeh) or in Eid. In daily, they pray in their homes, except women in traveling.
Read post from sister sevgi. She ask about wudu area in Indonesian masjids. Yes, in Indonesian small masjids, there are no wudu area for women. That's because almost all of jama'ah in Indonesian masjids are men.

 

[Asiyah3]

In my place, usually women pray in masjid only in ramadan (taraweeh) or in Eid. In daily, they pray in their homes, except women in traveling.

Someone seems to know too much! :X