Unnecessary Facebook Debate

[cat eyes]

i have to agree with sister albanian muslim there is just to much evil on it

people are forgetting how to socialize properly. im very old fashioned you know;D

i love writing letters me and my friends use to do it because we all went to different schools and we would not see each other so we'd slip each other a letter on the bus to see how we are getting on..but im just in my twenties and i cant believe how the world is dramatically changing...it might have something to do though with me growing up in the bog lands of Ireland ;D

But seriously and this no joke my sister joined face book and now i hardly never get a text from her i want her to join IB She said she would but havent heard from her since.

I Demanded that she should not put her picture up but if she puts her picture up on youtube whats to stop her putting her pict on facebook all her fiends on utube are male and they all are in there twenties and even thirties she said she don't chat with them but they mail her from time to time. she is just 17years old.

I Dont know really i am a bit worried at this stage imsad

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Umm I don't get to go out much. If I could I'd be as far away from the computer as possible. As for the masjid being a social network, yes it is but I dont ever get to go. No one takes me :S I'm horrible at talking on the phone. I will talk but I won't have much to say. Either I could type it to you or you have to be in front of me. So if I'm gunna talk to my friends or make plans, I do it mostly from online AND FB. Facebook is fitnah if you let it to be...all I do is post lectures articles or reminders on them and then go off. Leave my friends comments at times when I get too....that's all...

Btw, I think we had a thread about FB Before. Ok so it's not deja vu lol.

 

[cat eyes]

true some people cant control though. some people are weak and some people are strong they just use it for dawah purpose only but there is very few that use it as dawah i think even the most faithful of us can fall in to the traps of shayytan. might not happen now...can happen anytime of course, i learnt not to say ''it will never happen to me'' because the truth is it can happen and i have been a victim.

Alhamdulilah i have pushed and pushed myself to find friends whom i can visit from time to time Allah answered my duaa.. now i meet with these sisters every week. ive learnt so much already

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Facebook is just ridiculous now it seems to of taken over socialising all together, people spend hours on end sitting in front of a computer screen and forget the real world. I still have a facebook account because these days people when you meet someone they always seem to ask do you have facebook? haha though i hardly use it once in a blue moon maybe if I'm really bored. It has the pro's of meeting old school friends you haven't seen in a long time i give it that but other than that do i really need to play silly little games like farmville or what ever seriously?

Facebook is more like a stalker sight, you can type in your home address, what school you attend, your phone number etc etc, and oh yeah you can put up the privacy setting to the highest but always have a feeling when people really want something they'll get it somehow or another. And when you upload your photo's onto facebook but then later on you want to delete it does it really get deleted.....apparently it stays on the facebook database so some freak could be looking at your children photo's or something.....:raging:

Omg yea, I was reading about that. If you DO happen to use facebook, steer clear of posting your photos :S

Yea no matter how high ur settings are, someone could still see u one way or another. Facebook is scary, there's no lying about that...:skeleton: That's why I don't put up any private info, not even my real name! lol.


Sister cat eyes i totally agree with you. You can't say it won't happen to me coz you never know. Even by saying it you might fall into it...I've seen it happen to myself. It's almost like your challenging it :S Does that make sense? lol

 

[Esther462]

I think there's nothing wrong with facebook. (I'm on it right now as I'm writing this. ;D ) I have family that live all over the country so it's a nice way to keep in contact with them. 2 of my muslim friends have facebooks and they are not bothered with it. I do have 1 friend that hates facebook and managed to convice her husband to deltle his page. The rest of my friends are not bothered with facebook and don't care that I have one.

 

[cat eyes]

I Dont get it really.. what is the hijab? its all about modesty right? as muslimah's we are not really meant to be showing off.. we are meant to be lowering our gazes.

a muslimah is not meant to attract people is she?? rather she's meant to ignore unwanted attention. you can argue that people see you on the road anyway wearing hijab im sorry ladies its not the same thing because on these websites you are purposely attracting unwanted attention... u are attracting evil which you will be held accountable for on judgement DAY

Im sounding boring humm yeah maybe i am but ive researched about this and i read many fatwas and hadiths and the truth of the matter is you are attracting evil and if you know well enough that pple can hack your account then why put up pictures of yourself.


i believe that if a man wants to marry you then and only then that one man should be allowed to watch your face to see if hes attracted to you but showing to the whole world your beauty ladies will possibly land you in the helfire.

IM sorry i just felt i need to let this out of my system.
:wa:

 

[S<Chowdhury]

I have family that live all over the country so it's a nice way to keep in contact with them.

Doesn't MSN messenger provide the same sort service?

 

[AlbanianMuslim]

] 1) Facebook is an incredibly convenient way for people to stay in touch (considering busy people who cannot go to mosque as in the case with Muslimahs since they don't even have an obligation to be at the Mosque weekly) 2) it is superior to many social mediums like if you wanted to find someone you lost contact with and 3) it's not obvious that FB is so evil since there are MANY people who don't fall into temptations on FB. I am not supporting FB or condemning it but just trying to give you the point of view a pro-FB person might have (I could be wrong tho since I don't use FB but this seems to be the thought pattern of facebookers)

Again, i am sorry but there are serious flaws in your reasoning especially since you do not use facebook. My observations have come from the fact that I did use facebook before I was religious. My becoming more religious helped me see the evils.
Where are you statistics that many people dont give in to temptation? As far as I know they have. Several girls I know of met guys through facebook and met with them alone. Not only was it haram but incredibly dangerous. Let alone that, but facebook also makes it easier for people to commit adultery by giving them an avenue to meet new people who they otherwise wouldn't interact with.

Some of what you are saying is very very true. If someone is careful and a very strong muslim, they may have a chance and could make good use of facebook. However, I truly believe that facebook distracts people from strengthening your deen.

Deen/iman, its like a flower that needs to be tended, watered, cared for daily. You dont just develop a deen, have it and its going to maintain itself. Facebook is incredibly distracting and it has material on there that you could easily stumble upon it and it could lead to trouble.

 

[AlbanianMuslim]

cateyes, very good points you make sis.

 

[Islam_sister]

Asalaamu Alaykum Sister..

I think you should just advise this sister and tell her how you feel and as to why you feel this way sister.

Allah knows best..
May Allah forgive us of our sins and keeps on guided on the right path of islam..Ameen

 

[Lynx]

Again, i am sorry but there are serious flaws in your reasoning especially since you do not use facebook. My observations have come from the fact that I did use facebook before I was religious. My becoming more religious helped me see the evils.
Where are you statistics that many people dont give in to temptation? As far as I know they have. Several girls I know of met guys through facebook and met with them alone. Not only was it haram but incredibly dangerous. Let alone that, but facebook also makes it easier for people to commit adultery by giving them an avenue to meet new people who they otherwise wouldn't interact with.

Some of what you are saying is very very true. If someone is careful and a very strong muslim, they may have a chance and could make good use of facebook. However, I truly believe that facebook distracts people from strengthening your deen.

Deen/iman, its like a flower that needs to be tended, watered, cared for daily. You dont just develop a deen, have it and its going to maintain itself. Facebook is incredibly distracting and it has material on there that you could easily stumble upon it and it could lead to trouble.

I agree with much that you said. My point is that not all Facebook users fall into evil temptations. There are evil temptations in ANY sort of social interaction including Forums. Some people have already posted on this thread talking about how they don't fall into any haram business on FB so the OP has to take this into account as well. Basically, what I am saying is that FB has a lot of benefit and if the OP wants to convince his sister that FB is bad then he's going to have to explain how the evils outweigh the benefits (which I and others have mentioned in this thread). If the OP is going to start his argument with 'i don't care if im isolated & facebook has no benefits' then he isn't going to convince anyone since there is a mutual disagreement in the initial premises of the OP's argument. There needs to be common understanding between the OP and his sister on somethings before he can convince her. Once again I am not supporting or condemning facebook i am just saying...these are some of the things the OP has to take into consideration if he wants to convince someone not to use FB.

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

*Cough*

So does it make me a bad Muslim if I'm using facebook? The fact that I'm not using it for any other purpose other than indirectly giving dawah to my relatives and all the people I know? And contact purposes? I won't even deny that haraam can be done with facebook and same goes for anything else, even this very forum.

 

[Asiyaah]

I think facebook is a great tool to keep in touch with friends and family who you don't see often in your day-to-day life. People move, change email address and phone numbers. At least with facebook you can message someone to get their up-to-date contact info or just communicate with them on facebook.

I agree a lot of people spend way too much time on facebook doing mindless things - like those silly games lol.

Also another issue I have with facebook is I'm constantly being invited to go out drinking - so there is the temptation issue there. But people more often invite me to haram things in person anyways.

 

[cat eyes]

*Cough*

So does it make me a bad Muslim if I'm using facebook? The fact that I'm not using it for any other purpose other than indirectly giving dawah to my relatives and all the people I know? And contact purposes? I won't even deny that haraam can be done with facebook and same goes for anything else, even this very forum.

YES it dose make u a bad muslim
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Just kidding ;D sis we are just talking about the dangers of the fitnah and i think it needs to be said that more and more people are falling in to it

nobody is judging anyone here who uses it. im happy im not on it cos all my old friends would find me and annoy me to go out and do haraam things with them including a boy who i use to be friends with before i reverted he even tracked down my sister on it to so its so tempting..

doing dawah is not easy though i tried

theres womens jamaats you can go on to give dawah to muslims.

Our ummah always comes first. we should take care of ourselves before anyone else hence why we are talking about the dangers of our muslim brothers and sisters going astray using these sites.

MAY Allah protect our ummah from these dangers ameen.
:wa:

 

[MMohammed]

I go with you though I myself visit Facebook often.I really dont like it but you get some updates from it.And yes, Prophet(S.A) said that dont isolate from people neither always socialize.You can do other things than facebooking like messaging, talking on phone or call your friends at home.You encouraged me to leave Facebook.looking forward to it

 

[Misz_Muslimah]

*edittt* .

 

[Muezzin]

Facebook is only entertaining if you have revision/coursework/homework you really should be doing instead.

 

[S<Chowdhury]

Facebook

Facebook :"a social utility that connects you with the people around you"

Does Facebook really connect people? Doesn't it rather disconnect us, since instead of doing something enjoyable, I am merely sending them little ungrammatical notes and amusing photos in cyberspace, while chained to my desk?

Facebook appeals to a kind of vanity and self-importance in us, too. If I put up a flattering picture of myself with a list of my favourite things, I can construct an artificial representation of who I am in order to get approval or in some cases even sex!. It also encourages a disturbing competitivness around friendship: it seems that with friends today, quality counts for nothing and quantity is king. The more friends you have, the better you are. You are "popular", in the sense much loved in American high schools.

Source

 

[Life_Is_Short]

I respect my sister a lot. She talks more sense than I do most of the time. She has a lot of friends, unlike me, ones that call her when she is away at university (which is out of city) and arrange to visit when she comes back. You can therefore understand why she supports social networks.
I have a few friends, some are good but majority (I would say) are bad. By bad I mean although Muslim, they’re not much into Islam and have other (haram) interest. They advertise these on Facebook. The good ones never call or visit. They’re what I call “FB friends”. As for classmates, they hate me but for some reason I don’t understand why they added me. Like all situations I searched to find benefit in Facebook and the detriment unfortunately outweigh the benefits. The stories of what happens on Facebook is one thing. No matter how strong you are, you just can’t avoid temptations of facebook although a ‘strong’ or should I say a ‘strong Muslim’ would not take that chance. Facebook promotes temptations. Whoever came up with the idea did not have Islam or Muslims in mind.
Socially deprived or otherwise Facebook for me is a pile of garbage and i can only pray for my sister for now. imsad

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

YES it dose make u a bad muslim
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Just kidding ;D sis we are just talking about the dangers of the fitnah and i think it needs to be said that more and more people are falling in to it

nobody is judging anyone here who uses it. im happy im not on it cos all my old friends would find me and annoy me to go out and do haraam things with them including a boy who i use to be friends with before i reverted he even tracked down my sister on it to so its so tempting..

doing dawah is not easy though i tried

theres womens jamaats you can go on to give dawah to muslims.

Our ummah always comes first. we should take care of ourselves before anyone else hence why we are talking about the dangers of our muslim brothers and sisters going astray using these sites.

MAY Allah protect our ummah from these dangers ameen.
:wa:

People keep saying you can go to the masjid, you can go "out." Two of which unfortunately is different for me. The moment we make plans to go out or my parents go, I jump up with them to go. Why? Because I'm not a fan of sitting on the computer chair all day or just sitting period. Nobody I mean NOBODY in family goes to the masjid and I can't go due to that. I'm NOT close with any of my friends and they are not even practicing. One sister I'm friends with who is practicing but isn't exactly friend material.

So how am I supposed to go out and do any sort of dawah or have a life? Anything I've ever learned about Islam was through my parents, IB, lectures or articles online. I've never gone to a talk, let alone sat in the masjid whilst a talk is given. Maybe only four times in my life have I ever done a hangout. People quickly jump the wagon to judge and assume things without knowing both sides. Some here actually go to the extent of saying so and so is wrong. You can't class someone as wrong when you don't know a thing about them or what they do on FB.

I like and appreciate everyone here trying to advise, but do it right :S

Ok I'm done.

And ameen to your du'a sis :embarrass lol