Muslims in the world.

[marwen]

Maybe getoffmyback assumes if all Chinese are atheists.

Aren't they ? I know a lot of chinese are buddhist, but I also think many chinese are atheist.

 

[Supreme]

Maybe getoffmyback assumes if all Chinese are atheists.

The Chinese government controls and represses religion. The largest religion in China is Buddhism, although Buddhism could technically be classified as an atheist religion.

 

[Getoffmyback]

Secular , nonreligious , agnostics , atheists . Are 1.1 billion . Google it

 

[marwen]

I still have that question, (non-muslims may also help), why this huge number of muslims has no effect today ?: they have no good relationship with others, they don't represent Islam the best way, they have no progress in science or culture. what's really missing ?

Is there a problem in muslims themselves, or there is also a problem with the countries/govmts they live in.

 

[- Qatada -]

Both religions are only growing in numbers but not in faith. in the end its a secular environment or a secular envisioned future what is on the horizon . What about atheists they are growing too lol they are like 1.1 billion! It seems they will rule the world

It's not really surprising that there are over a billion atheists, because the general people will follow the religion of the ruler. Atheism is taught as the norms in society, and that's why the masses follow it. The same would apply if a nation was ruled by Christians, and even Muslims alike.

The real amazing thing is that the amount of Muslim converts is on the increase - during a time when they are being opposed the most. This is a sign of Islam's miraculousness throughout history.

I still have that question, (non-muslims may also help), why this huge number of muslims has no effect today ?: they have no good relationship with others, they don't represent Islam the best way, they have no progress in science or culture. what's really missing ?

Is there a problem in muslims themselves, or there is also a problem with the countries/govmts they live in.

It's a problem of the rulers and the people. A cycle. When people are bad, the oppressive rulers are a punishment. When the people are good, Allah will provide a way out from hardship.

 

[ardianto]

they have no good relationship with others,

Majority of Muslims have good relationship with non-Muslims. At least in Indonesia.

they don't represent Islam the best way,

Secularism. Yes, that's a problem for Muslims.

they have no progress in science or culture.

Not true. Muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia have progress in science, but world doesn't know (yet) about it.

 

[marwen]

Not true. Muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia have progress in science, but world doesn't know (yet) about it.

Yes I'm sure that some muslims are the best scientists in the world, but the problem is that they work as separate individuals, or separate communities, and they are not giving so much to the Umma, like the early muslim scientists did.

 

[InfiniteMercy]

Assalamu alaiykum
With regards to why there are many muslims around the world but they have little influence in todays world: well if u look at expat muslim families there are many that have managed to have a good standard of living, usually much better than their fellow countrymen in the countries that they left..muslims know that having a good education is important and work hard to get a good job, etc, i personally dont see any major problems in the average individual muslim family...but if u look at the big picture the problem is geopolitics...so u will find individual muslims excelling in science and cultural achievemnts in foreign countries, but muslims in their own countries struggle to get their daily bread..the muslim world experienced colonization from empires for a long time and ever since we have never gained true independence, politically, socially and economically.
Salam

 

[ardianto]

Yes I'm sure that some muslims are the best scientists in the world, but the problem is that they work as separate individuals, or separate communities, and they are not giving so much to the Umma, like the early muslim scientists did.

They do not work individual but in group with non-Muslims. Although they give biggest contribution in an invention, this invention would known as group's invention.

Scientists are human. They must eat and cannot spend their time and their money for research while let themselves and their families dying in hungry. Many of them facing two options, work in a field that not related to their majors, or join with non-Muslims and they can work as scientist in their majors.

The problem for scientists in third world countries is research fund. Is not easy to get it. Sometime, or often, the last hope in looking for research fund are US and European govt and institutions. US govt know this problem, last year they make non-commercial ad in Indonesian newspapers for offered research fund.