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BrotherUbaid, when scholars differ on a matter, they differ because they have evidence on both sides. We are not the ones who can judge who is right and who is wrong. It's not right for us to say they don't have evidence from the Quran and Sunnah. Please read this thread.
Having the intention while starting the Salah is very important. That is because, we come to the Masjid from our worldly business and our minds are wandering. We come and join the prayer without even thinking where we are standing. We are standing in front of Rabbul 'Aalameen, Lord of the worlds. We must have our thoughts completely focussed on the prayer. Saying the intention silently helps achieve this. Our thoughts get focussed on the prayer and where we are standing and how great an action we are going to carry out.
Intention plays a very important role. Just by the difference of intention, the reward for an action changes. The Sunnah of Fajr and the Fardh of Fajr, both are exactly same in appearance. It's only the intention that changes the reward from that of the Sunnah prayer to that of the Fardh prayer. Then what is the condition of those who just come and join the prayer with their minds wandering around and say Allahu Akbar? (PS: I am not saying this particularly to anyone here. Just a general situation of most Muslims. I hope none amongst us here falls under this category.)
salam brother barak Allah feek , i will really appreciate that u bring me the evidence from quran n sunnah of making the niyah vocally by whispering etc.
All what u have said , cam be said about the niyyah in the heart
for example 2 sunnah of fajr n 2 rakat fardh of fajr are same in apperance but the niyyah is what decides which is what, right? so why cant this niyyah be in the heart?
And if u are saying that this is a good NEW way of bringing focus in the prayer or making our prayer better , and i say NEW coz the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam never did it nor did his sahaba , nor did any of the four imams teach or recommend it ( that niyah should be said vocally even if its whispers) so here brother if u are caliming that its khair n there is khair in it and good in it than know my brother that u are saying that the Prophe sala lau alihi wa sallam and his companions were not aware of this khair nor did they come up with this khair n reach this khair while the were the best of humans n most knowledgable of islam than us all.
Know that what was deen at that time will be deen till Allah inherits this earth n what ever is upon it and InshaAllah some peopel n some groups will remain on that same islam while others will need new things n new ways to practice the deen n you can be the judge on who will be the more succesful.
It is not up to us to invent new things n to legislate them in the deen.
N if any one says its good n its khair
than know that this Khayr was non-existent during the
time of Allah's Messenger , his Sahabah, Taba'een and the Imams.
Howcould this Khayr be concealed from them?
They knew this Khayr like we know (because) they were more
knowledgeable than us.
Know what imam malik said:
"He, who innovates a Bidah in the religion of Islam and he
considers it to be Khayr then he has maligned the Messenger of
Allah, Muhammad that he betrayed the Message (i.e., did not
completely convey the message)."
When he was asked whats ur proof oh imam he said
ImamMalik said,
"Read if youwish, 'This day I have perfected your religion for you,
completed my Favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as
your religion.'" [Soorah al-Maidah (5):3]
So, something that was not from the Deen that day is also not
from the Deen today.”
When did Imam Malik make this statement?
In the 2nd century after Hijrah - one of the generations that was
promised goodness. So, how about the 14th century?!
This statement ofImamMalik should be carvedwith letters of gold. But
we are ignorant of the Book of Allah and the Ahadeeth of Allah's
Messenger , and from the saying of the scholars whom we claim to
follow, between their example and ours is a distance equal to the
distance between east and west.
Yes just by the difference of intention the reward of the intention changes , lets take an example n this happen all the time with lots of people , they come to the masjid late , run up to the row n join in n when they are making the niyah voacally lets say its 4 rakat dhur namaz , and in his heart his niyyah is that he is going to masjid to pray 4 rakat , but when he gets there n the imam is in ruku he makes niyah quickly with his mouth n slips n instead of four rakat dhur he says four rakat asr , Now what will he be rewarded? will this be written for him as dhur salah or asr salah , and know that its not time for asr salah but he said it with his moth that i intentd to pray four rakat asr salah. Now his niyyah in the heart is of dhur salah and niyah on tongue is asr salah , what a mess this is and happens allll the time , u see brothers repeat niyah again n again coz they keep slipping.
It is an innovation , and i say that because it has be associated with salah a complete association , where when ever a person is taught to do salah he is taugt to do the niyah in this particular way , he is told that this is how the salah starts hence making it a part of his salah and if this was not a part of the salah of the prophet n sahaba than this witout a douit is an inovation. and not to mention that its taught in the language of the person hence proving that it cannot ever be from the deen or salah coz if it was it would have been in arabic n secondly it would have been the same word used by the Prophet sala lahua lihi wa salla.
Now i will just mention a few losses of making intention vocally
First - Its rejected , for the famous hadeeth of the prophet that Who ever does a deed which was not commanded by us it will be rejected ,
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever introduces anything into this matter of ours that is not part of it will have it rejected,” i.e., it will be thrown back at him and will not be accepted by Allaah. According to another version: “Whoever does any deed that is not part of this matter of ours will have it rejected.”
So this is first
Second It is seen all over the world in all masajid what happens
Those who make intention vocaly at times get stuck or making that intention ina hurry always makes them slip and repaet it over and over
The Loss
They lose out on the takbeer al tahreemah , the first takbeer n lose out on a great ajar , if they can pray 40 days all salas with teh first takbeer they might be rewarded by release from fire n hyprocrisy, but no ,uttering the intention ( since its a bidah and wil only harm u) makes them miss the takbeer and delay them joining with the imam and even more common than this is
That they lose on the rakah itself, How? they come in running coz the imam is going to goto ruku soon , when they reach the row the imam is still in ruku n they can join , they have the niyyyah of praying that salah with the imam in their hearts , its their niyah in their hearts that has got them to the masjid n in the saff in the forst place so there is no need to utter it n say it vocally , coz saying it vocaly only makes them miss the rakat coz the imam comes up from the ruku n he has not made his niyah n joined in in the ruku. This is a very comon sight in all masajid so pleased ont deny it.
There is no good in making the niyyah vocally brothers , rather its in the heart , n wel if u say it makes the salah more fearful n concentrated , than know that this is not how the sahaba n the early generations made their salah more focused , The prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam did not inform us of this, Allah did not inform us of this , And Allah knew ther would be a 2010 , there would be people like us with our type of weak imans n pre occupied minds , but Allah with ALL his knowledge did not legislate it and his Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam did not teach us this, so who aftyer them can introduce this? do they not fear Allah?
