Disrespect increasing

[S<Chowdhury]

Lol or desi style get the slippers, in my case it was heeled shoes to the head... daymm

My lil bro gets beats from me, when he gets bigger i'll be using a pole - hopefully it wont hav to get to that tho.

But yh man respect in countries like these is hard to implement, kids get matured, over confident and build an attitude too quickly, thats why parents got to take drastic measures to get the job done.

LOL I use to get hit with slippers aswell, but then mum use to go even further with her cane (i tried to break it once haha regret that day lol)

Yeah I agree balance punishment out but a few smacks here and there don't hurt unless you bruise heavily -that boarders on child abuse which I'm against.

 

[CosmicPathos]

I feel that hitting is necessary. My definition of hitting includes a slick slap or two on the face when the child is not acting normally and all other measures (scolding, reinforcement) etc have been tried. NEVER hit your child in front of anyone especially his friends. I was hit once by my dad when I was 10-11 years old in a masjid because I threw my brother off the ledge and that was a confidence-shattering experience of my life. But of course I was at mistake and I did deserve to be hit. An eye for an eye. Just not in the masjid in front of other people

But yes, I do not think Prophet Muhammad pbuh hit any children. Of course I would not hit ANY children except my own and that also when I have tried EVERYTHING non-violent possible to remove their naughty habits. Some people take this action of our Prophet pbuh (of not hitting any children) to the other extreme and say that we SHOULD NEVER EVER hit children even if they commit zina despite knowledge.

 

[aadil77]

yh agreed it ruins a kids confidence, has to be done in private, till then you can always threaten them with 'ghar jaa kar dhaykna' (watch when we get home) ;D

 

[Beardo]

Just a reminder:



The above quote is over 2000 years old. It was attributed to Socrates by Plato.

Wow. It seems like it's a common problem in every society. I guess if you look at it in that light, then yes, you are right. Just let children be children.

Though, every parent wants their child to be #1. The white stallion among black horses. Though that was probably a horrible analogy lol.

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

yh agreed it ruins a kids confidence, has to be done in private, till then you can always threaten them with 'ghar jaa kar dhaykna' (watch when we get home) ;D

Aslaamu alaaykum..
lool i hate that, would scaree meee SubhaanAllaah....LOL...but i disagree on this whole hitting a child concept...because i dont think its worth it at all, if scolding dont work why then lose it on the child by hitting them? i dont understand....Either you learn to be patient , isnt hitting usually a sign of anger? like if you hit a child, what if it leaves a mark on them? bruise, rash or whatever.. and you can get in trouble for child abuse, or if you take it the other way around such as the tapping sort of hitting on the child hows that gona work? so which one do you people use to "Hit" your kids aye? the hitting bad or tapping? because neither of them work..and i hope i made sense InshaaAllaah.. so yeahh..

Wa alaaykum salaam

 

[Cabdullahi]

Has anyone noticed this? Or perhaps I'm being overly speculative, but kids these days are just getting more and more disrespectful as the days go by. The concept of raising hands and waiting to be called on has been long gone. The respect for knowledge has also passed out. They're now sitting on their textbooks as a cushion.

How did this all come about?

Honestly, I really think it's from that spongebob square pants. Look at all the Disney movie themes as well: Disobey the father, runaway from home. Name a disney movie that's not like that, if you dare.

It's really a sad state of affairs.

Rashad you ****

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

And people who "SLAP" there kids, make me feel sad...man it makes the child hate their parent, and if there is a time the kids done something bad, like stole or killed some1 or something, now whoos he goonaa tell about it? his bad friend or his father or mother?

he certainly aint gonna tell the parent bout it, coz he will be TOOO afraid, and trust this has been the casee for most kids around the world... so yeahhh

Peace out

 

[aadil77]

And people who "SLAP" there kids, make me feel sad...man it makes the child hate their parent, and if there is a time the kids done something bad, like stole or killed some1 or something, now whoos he goonaa tell about it? his bad friend or his father or mother?

he certainly aint gonna tell the parent bout it, coz he will be TOOO afraid, and trust this has been the casee for most kids around the world... so yeahhh

Peace out

no it don't, thats only when you go crazy on the kid, there's a limit where you don't loose the kids trust in you

the aim of a few slaps is not to bruise or hurt them its just to get them embaraased, ashamed and remourseful enough of what they did, tat way thy'll be more careful next time. You should only try and slap the kid on his bottom.

Again all this depends on the type of kid, if the kid is a sissy he'll most likely get scared just by a bit of shouting, if he's more rebelious and a gremlin then only a few slaps can sort him out properly

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

lol @ sisy aha.. SubhaanAllaah the time has come where even sissy kids exist MashaAllaah

Bro Allahu alam..it also depends on how some parents bring their kids up aswell..i dont know much about the retarded kids you mentioned but im sure you`ve met some yurself indeed.

so yeah but i myself i Disagreee, but i know what kids you mean, if the parents too angered up and geekified they will end up as you said Hit there child do embaras or lets say sort them out..but if the parent is too soft i doubt they would ever hit the kid...Indeedyyy so yeah

 

[Mujahideen92]

Its the parents fault. Dont blame technology. Its like someone throws a rock at you and you blame the rock.

 

[Beardo]

Its the parents fault. Dont blame technology. Its like someone throws a rock at you and you blame the rock.

That's a beautiful example, actually. Puts things in perspective. But I'd also like to add that society has somewhat to do with it as well.

 

[CosmicPathos]

You cant put parents at fault for everything that their children do. If that is the case, its better to rid oneself of the responsibility of producing children by not producing em. But of course, Islamiis not cruel and that cannot be the case in Islam.

 

[The Ruler]

Has anyone noticed this? Or perhaps I'm being overly speculative, but kids these days are just getting more and more disrespectful as the days go by. The concept of raising hands and waiting to be called on has been long gone. The respect for knowledge has also passed out. They're now sitting on their textbooks as a cushion.

How did this all come about?

Honestly, I really think it's from that spongebob square pants. Look at all the Disney movie themes as well: Disobey the father, runaway from home. Name a disney movie that's not like that, if you dare.

It's really a sad state of affairs.

I don't think the semi-nude sponge has anything to do with the persistent disrespect of kids. I believe it's more the freedom the children attain, the people they keep company etc. I'm unsure of how much parents are to blame, though. A teenager will always find methods to ensure that their deeds are cemented to the ground and buried under a pile of roses (the only flower I know :-/) before they walk home.

 

[Ummu Sufyaan]

yh agreed it ruins a kids confidence, has to be done in private, till then you can always threaten them with 'ghar jaa kar dhaykna' (watch when we get home) ;D

a good way to discipline the kid without humiliating them in public , is to give them that soul piecing glare.

worked on me like a treat.

 

[Beardo]

a good way to discipline the kid without humiliating them in public , is to give them that soul piecing glare.

worked on me like a treat.

That's so true. That works quite effectively. But some kids are immune to that though. Depends how you're brought up at the end of the day.

 

[Grofica]

i dont think hitting is the answer. i think its more about the punishment befitting the crime... scrub the bathroom or wash dishes for a week or some HARD chore (my grandpa made us bail hay when we were younger as punishement... if anyone has ever bailed hay trust me by the time you get to the barn your sorry) and because its such a phyical task the child works out all the anger... (in a healthy way) we feed the chickens clean the horses i mean there was always something. weeded the garden... sometimes one day sometimes one week. i tell you one thing we never did it again though. only very very very rarley did we get a spanken and it had to be bad to get that...

what does make me angry is all the "no you cant punish your child for something they did wrong it will affect their esteam.... you should talk to them and see if they are emotionally vunerable right now" and all that other new age touchy feely stuff.

WHATEVER! a little hard work build character it also give people good alturnitives for working out their anger... like i said i dont really believe in hitting but grandpa tought us there is a lot worse things then spankings... but we were always healthy, strong and we never made the same mistake twice!!!!!!!!!!! he he he he he he

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you aadil77;

kids get matured, over confident and build an attitude too quickly, thats why parents got to take drastic measures to get the job done

Kids are going to do whatever they want to do, despite all their parents efforts, I can think of one smart cookie who should be studying now, but he has such a stubborn streak, that he still spends all his time on the internet………

I am just trying to think of his name, it begins with aa

Blessings and peace be with you, I hope your exams go well.

Eric
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[aadil77]

That's so true. That works quite effectively. But some kids are immune to that though. Depends how you're brought up at the end of the day.

yh my little brother gives a cheeky smile in return pretending to be scared

 

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you Woodrow;

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Socrates

Quiet possibly old Socrates was a rebel when he was a child, and he justified his own actions.

As he grew up, he saw the younger generation doing the same kind of things that he did as a child, but he was not able to tolerate the same kind of behavior with the next generation of kids.

In the spirit of praying for peace between the generations

Eric

 

[marwen]

Well, when it comes to disrespect, I think yes.. today's children are like little monsters :mmokay:.
That can't be tolerated, but it can be explained : what led to this ? there are many reasons :
1) every generation is different from the previous, and that can cause conflicts in ways of thinking, in behaviour, ...
2) Tv, Internet, facebook, video games, PS3, mobiles, sms, mms, msn, etc ... lol
when I was kid (late 90s) A game boy was a dream, now a PS3 is the minimum thing.
3) schools are being worse (bad teachers, less homeworks, ...)
4) ...

But I have to admit that those little kids are more smart than the kids of previous generations, I mean they know many things that we didn't know.