Saudi Arabia to Israel: 'Our skies are free any time you want to attack Iran'

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Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan are said to be as distrustful of the Iranian regime as the West. I'm not all that surprised that the Saudis don't trust Mr. Nutjob Ahmadinajab. It is interesting that Obama has still held back on giving tacit approval to a raid. I don't see how diplomacy will mean anything to Iran.

I wonder how this whole thing will ultimately play out.

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Supreme said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7148555.ece

Even I'm shocked and disgusted at this. Saudi Arabia seems to hate Iran so much, that they would even let Israel use their airspace? Israel? The country that is starving fellow Muslim Arabs just a few miles away from the border of Saudi Arabia? Are they nuts? Of course they are. The Saudi Arabian government is nuts.
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LOL they dont hate iran, rather they wouldn't risk offending their zionist masters in israel

this is how low so called 'muslim' countries have to go

There is not a single soverign muslim country in the world, none of them have the balls to say no or fight back. Thats why I'm hoping afghanistan becomes the first - iran doesn't count.
 
Supreme said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7148555.ece

Even I'm shocked and disgusted at this. Saudi Arabia seems to hate Iran so much, that they would even let Israel use their airspace? Israel? The country that is starving fellow Muslim Arabs just a few miles away from the border of Saudi Arabia? Are they nuts? Of course they are. The Saudi Arabian government is nuts.
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yes Supreme we all know your "love" for Saudi Arabia is used to fuel your hate for us. trying to score points eh...will you phony's ever give it up :hmm:

i like how you have avoided posting this in the world affairs section...very sly.
 
Supreme said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7148555.ece

Even I'm shocked and disgusted at this. Saudi Arabia seems to hate Iran so much, that they would even let Israel use their airspace? Israel? The country that is starving fellow Muslim Arabs just a few miles away from the border of Saudi Arabia? Are they nuts? Of course they are. The Saudi Arabian government is nuts.
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Hardly. One glance at the map should you why they might think a world with both Israel and Iran having nuclear weapons is not a particularly good idea if you happen to live in Saudi. In that context, Gaza is pretty much small fry to them.
 
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yes Supreme we all know your "love" for Saudi Arabia is used to fuel your hate for us. trying to score points eh...will you phony's ever give it up :hmm:

i like how you have avoided posting this in the world affairs section...very sly.
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You'll have to translate this for me... I don't speak nonsense!

Hardly. One glance at the map should you why they might think a world with both Israel and Iran having nuclear weapons is not a particularly good idea if you happen to live in Saudi. In that context, Gaza is pretty much small fry to them.
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It'd be a nightmare, I agree.
 
I think to understand this a person needs to look at the historical record of Iran and their contempt of Arabs in the past. It was not very long ago when Iran did conquer nearly all of the Arab world and even what is now Pakistan was an Iranian state. The last time they threatened war on Saudi was when Saudi maps called the Persian Gulf the Arabian Sea. How soon we have forgotten Iran's invasions and attempted invasions of Iraq. Iran seems to take pride in being an Aryan Nation and not Arabic. The Arab States have had centuries of reasons to fear Iran compared to 60 years of hatred of Israel. The hatred and fear of Iran goes back much longer than the presence of Israel.

From a short 3 years ago:

Iran Arabs denounce discrimination
By Ahmed Janabi

The Iranian government accused Britain of
involvement in the Ahwaz bombings in 2006
Iranian Arabs in the oil-rich province of Khuzestan in southwest Iran have expressed a strong will to split from Iran and restore their own state, accusing Tehran of suppressing them racially, economically, and politically.



Ahwaz has been witnessing sporadic bombings and confrontations between residents and Iranian police.
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That's right, Woodrow. I'm willing to bet the hatred of Shia Islam that's prelevant in Wahhabi Saudi Arabia also creates tension, in addition to the 'Persian vs Arab' hatred.
 
all i can say is ISRAEL??????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Saudi Arabia denies opening up skies for Israeli airstrike against Iran
2010-06-14 12:20:00

Saudi Arabia has rejected media reports that it will allow Israel to use its air space to pound Iranian nuclear facilities.

According to a statement issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Riyadh has never permitted Israel to use its airspace to launch air strikes against Iran.

"Saudi Arabia has noticed some false claims in some sections of the British media that it has permitted Israel to launch attacks on Iran using its airspace," The Daily Times quoted the statement, as saying.

The statement further added that the Saudi Kingdom has a clear strategy of not allowing any country to use either its airspace or its soil against any other nation.

It may be noted that a British website had reported that following the UN Security Council's imposition of new sanctions on Tehran, Saudi Arabia had agreed to allow Israel to use a narrow corridor of its airspace to shorten the distance for any bombing.

"The Saudis have given their permission for the Israelis to pass over and they will look the other way," Timesonline had quoted a US defence source, as saying. (ANI)

http://sify.com/news/saudi-arabia-d...inst-iran-news-international-kgomueegced.html
 
amani said:
all i can say is ISRAEL??????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Perhaps the Arab world sees Iran as a greater threat to Islam than Israel. Keep in mind it is illegal to speak or teach Arabic in Iran. Farsi is the language of choice for the Qur'an and is used for Qur'anic readings in the Masjids. Even the prayers are said in Farsi. I do not believe it is even possible to buy an Arabic Language Qur'an in Iran.

The Qur'an (in Anglicized form: Koran ) is certainly the greatest literary work in classical Arabic and for all Muslims stands as the definitive word of God (in Arabic: Allah ) spoken to the prophet Muhammad by the angel Gabriel. When reading the Qur'an , you should realize that, for all Muslims, the text you are reading is quite literally the voice of God; because the Qur'an is the direct speech of God in Arabic, translation of the work is seen as blasphemy, as an unforgivable tampering with God's own speech. Nevertheless, the Qur'an has been translated into Turkish and Farsi (the language of Iran) in this century and is recited in these languages in religious services in Turkey and Iran. The Muslim community tolerates this but just barely. For all practical purposes, to be Muslim, then, means almost universally to be able to read and understand classical Arabic, despite what one's native language is.
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Arabs call the province of Khuzestan Arabestan or Arabstan. Even though most speak Arabic , the majority cannot write or read Arabic, because the Iranian government refuses to recognize Arabic as another language in Iran, and does not allow the schools to teach the Arabic language.
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If Iran conquers Israel the Arab world will be surrounded by Iran. Because Iran is Anti-Israel, that does not mean they are friends of the Arab world. Iran just may prove to be the greatest threat to the Arab people. Possibly the greatest threat to Islam if they continue to forbid the use of Arabic.
 
You'll have to translate this for me... I don't speak nonsense!
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if you speak English though, it wont be too hard to translate it yourself.
 
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Woodrow said:
Perhaps the Arab world sees Iran as a greater threat to Islam than Israel. Keep in mind it is illegal to speak or teach Arabic in Iran. Farsi is the language of choice for the Qur'an and is used for Qur'anic readings in the Masjids. Even the prayers are said in Farsi. I do not believe it is even possible to buy an Arabic Language Qur'an in Iran.
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Is it really? I've never heard of that you'd think there would be an outcry. I tend to like Iran even though they are shia because Ahmadenijad is the only leader to stand up to Israel and the west along with Turkey both non Arab people.
Salam
 
Woodrow said:
Perhaps the Arab world sees Iran as a greater threat to Islam than Israel. Keep in mind it is illegal to speak or teach Arabic in Iran. Farsi is the language of choice for the Qur'an and is used for Qur'anic readings in the Masjids. Even the prayers are said in Farsi. I do not believe it is even possible to buy an Arabic Language Qur'an in Iran.


If Iran conquers Israel the Arab world will be surrounded by Iran. Because Iran is Anti-Israel, that does not mean they are friends of the Arab world. Iran just may prove to be the greatest threat to the Arab people. Possibly the greatest threat to Islam if they continue to forbid the use of Arabic.
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Firstly, on the 'Arabic' is the language of the koran and therefore allah!
How can it be that knowledge and understanding of 'Arabic' is necessary to understand allah and islam?
There must be millions/billions of ordinary muslims through the centuries who for many reasons could/would not be able to learn 'Arabic'!
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Notwithstanding, that the revelations of allah(supposedly) to the peoples of the book(Jews & Christians) were written down in Hebrew and Greek!
Very confusing and inconsistent!

And secondly on the 'Iran/Iranian' issue,-----
On the one hand, Iran is 'shi'ite' and not sunni! And is therefore regarded is inferior!

Yet, they are the supporters and enablers of hamas! hamas who are the avowed enemies of Israel/Israelis!
hamas whose charter declares their avowed intention to totally anihilate Israel and wipe it from the map!
And ahmadinejad wants to see the total destruction of Israel!
 
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How could allah the so called god of the universe, the creator be so short sighted?
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only someone with short sighted intelligence and intellect would come up with such a short sighted remark.
And secondly on the 'Iran/Iranian' issue, islam/muslims seem to have a schizophrenic approah!
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look whose talking.

On the one hand, Iran is 'shi'ite' and not sunni! And is therefore regarded is inferior!

Yet, they are the supporters and enablers of hamas! hamas who are the avowed enemies of Israel/Israelis!
hamas whose charter declares their avowed intention to totally anihilate Israel and wipe it from the map!
And ahmadinejad wants to see the total destruction of Israel!
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who said the actions of the shia has anything to do with Islam? who says they are fighting in the name of Islam?

you seem to be getting your wires crossed. not a very consistent thing to do.
 
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Is it really? I've never heard of that you'd think there would be an outcry. I tend to like Iran even though they are shia because Ahmadenijad is the only leader to stand up to Israel and the west along with Turkey both non Arab people.
Salam
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Sadly it is true it is illegal to teach Arabic in Iran at least in the Arabic Districts if not all of Iran. However, I have never met an Iranian who could read and write Arabic and never saw an Arabic Qur'an in any Iranian home. In the Masjids the prayers are said in Farsi. I posted two sources in my above posts.
 
Woodrow said:
Sadly it is true it is illegal to teach Arabic in Iran at least in the Arabic Districts if not all of Iran. However, I have never met an Iranian who could read and write Arabic and never saw an Arabic Qur'an in any Iranian home. In the Masjids the prayers are said in Farsi. I posted two sources in my above posts.
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It's one thing to have a translation of the quran it's another when the quran is written, recited and prayed with in a language different to the one it was revealed in. Very strange. Thanks for the links.
Salam
 
You can understand why the Iranians are defending their culture so fiercely. They've already adopted the religion of the Arabs- why adopt more Arab culture by teaching the language? It's nationalistic, and extreme, but you can understand why a people would defend their language so fiercely when they've adopted a religion that has somewhat erased a part of their cultural heritage.
 
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Woodrow said:
How soon we have forgotten Iran's invasions and attempted invasions of Iraq. Iran seems to take pride in being an Aryan Nation and not Arabic.
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I don't know if you are referring to the Iran-Iraq war, but this war was started by Saddam Hussein and backed by the U.S. and the west in order to punish Iran for overthrowing the puppet shah, who was a brutal tyrant installed by the U.S.
 
It is true though that most Iranians are very eager to show their 'Arianness'. We have a very large Iranian population here and they always tell me how Persian and non-Arab they are. Shame really, Arab culture is quite interesting.
 
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