My intentions

[Zafran]

100,000 people is very little compared to wars of the past. Barely a blip on the radar.

When Muslims rebelled in China in the 1800's the death toll was near 1,000,000 (Panthay Rebellion)

In the Iran-Irag war the death toll was over 1,000,0000 (1980's)

Other wars where the death toll was in the millions:

Vietnam War
Crusades
Thirty Years War
American Civil War
Russian Civil War
WWI
WWII
and the list goes on and on and on, with the World Wars having a death toll over 100x as much as Afghanistan and Iraq together.

So yes, in comparison they are skirmishes and not signs of the end of times.

so for you a war has to have a 1 million death toll to actaully be called a war or a sign of the end of times? so a death of 100,000 is so small that it should be called a skirmish?

how do you know that the world wont end - does the death toll have to go up to 1 million?

As for nukes they have been around for over 60 years now and still no end of times.

they can easily be used tommorrow - but this trumps all periods in histroy - did any other time in history have this much destructive power to destroy the world 7 times over (some say more)? the answer to that is clearly no -

Ultimatley what your saying is that it didnt happen in the past so it wont happen in the future? thats absurd. It could easily happen in the future. Especially with the destructive power we hold today - it only takes a button. It far more likely - in the past they were killing million becasue they didnt have power to destroy the entire world.

 

[h-n]

so your one of the prople in paradise now - thats arrogant.

why shouldnt I be critical of you - the thread is called "my intentions" - its as personal as it gets. Your also critical of people personally - if you cant take the same treatment dont dish it.

If your not going to change - then why do you expect other people to change?

whos one of them?? whats with the tribalism - someone whos a non muslim now could become a muslim in the future - so this "us" vs "them" doesnt work in certainly wasnt the idea of the prophet Muhammad pbuh or the sahaba (ra) -

The companions of the prophet by the way were non muslims before - some even wanted to kill the prophet - did the prophet talk to them the way your talking to the non muslims so that they would see the truth or did he do it in a different way?

many examples can be given how the prophet dealt with non muslims - eg. the women that used to chuck Grabage at the prophet pbuh is one famous example.

1. That was an excellent example, what do the companions had to call themselves sinners, even though they were fighting against sinners? We are not called sinners, sinners are for those that do not repent. What do you think Allah said to the angels? To join the sinners to fight the sinners in the Battle of Badr? What do you think that Allah said;-

-. To Prophet Noah peace be upon him take the animals into the ark and the "sinful" people with you.
-. To Prophet Lut peace be upon him take your "sinful" daughters with you and leave the rest of the sinners to be destroyed?

2. The fact is that you have not made any points on what I have written even on this thread, you read the title, and just decided to make it a personal attack. I will always go against anything unIslamic. You probably have not read the "Collapse of these countries", the "Major signs of the Day of Judgement" and this thread to understand what I'm saying. I don't have a problem of putting up with personal attacks, but your just derailing threads and not talking about what I am talking about. You cannot go into every thread and turn it into Dawah-I am not talking about Dawah. So your just making yourself look stupid. I don't regret, what I have written, how I have written my threads, frankly I am happy with them.

3. I'm not the one that needs to change when the Dajjal is here, obviously, your not even acknowledged anything that I've said about what I have written, just proving that your attacking a person personally. Why should I change, when I am heeding the signs and remembering that these nations will be of no more, and taking that seriously? If you were heeding the signs, you wouldn't be complaining about what I have written. Obviously just spending time attacking me, I believe that the countries will be of no more, so that influences how I am (so that is why I won't change, I am not going to be like some other Muslims who are discussing Dawah etc, when these countries are collapsing right now, we don't stop talking about Islam, but its not a long term goal), before you say another stupid thing, yes only Allah knows when the Day of Judgement is, but we know that the countries won't be around when the Prophet comes back etc (explained on the Major signs of the Day of Judgement). which is why I am paying attention to looking towards the Major signs of the Day of Judgement, as explained on post 1 of this thread, which you completely ignored!

4. Probably your only talking about Dawah, as you have got nothing else to say on what the threads are actually about, including this one.

5. How hilarious, you pointed out that this threat is about "My intentions" and it appears that its getting on your nerves that I have written this thread, but obviously you have MISSED everything on post 1 of this thread!!!! As you have NOT acknowledged any of the points and what is wrong with them! :lol: As explained so many times, we are not starting from the beginning of telling the countries to repent. WE are finishing, and looking towards the Major signs of the Day of Judgement (as explained on the "Collapse of these countries" and "Major signs of the Day of Judgement" thread. You have shown its a personal attack on me, that's why you asked questions like if I sinned etc.

As a warning, this is what even evil people do, if they see someone good, strong, it gets on their nerves and they want to point to people's faults to try and make themselves feel better. When they can't attack a person on what they are doing and saying, they try and bring up anything to attack a person. <_<

I am a servant of Allah, I am not talking about how to be to sinful people, I am talking about being strong and steadfast in Islam to face the Major signs of the Day of Judgement and not go into the fires of Hell. Cannot afford to listen to anything that is not on the path of Islam as people have so much to lose-their place in Paradise.

Its stupid how many times, I'm talking to Muslims to try and help them learn about Islam, the best thing that I personally have to offer, and you talk about how to talk to non-Muslims.


Your just making a fool out of yourself, talking as I would expect from a non-Muslim, just showing your HATRED to me. So thankfully the rest of the Muslim Brothers and Sisters can see that, and avoid turning out like you. I think you got a bit excited, thinking it was easier to attack me, when you read the title of this tread "My intentions" without reading, and mentioning what I have said on post 1 of this thread. Its a joke.


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[titus]

As a warning, this is what even evil people do, if they see someone good, strong, it gets on their nerves and they want to point to people's faults to try and make themselves feel better.

It is also what good people do. They point out the faults of others in order that they will hopefully correct them.

Your just making a fool out of yourself, talking as I would expect from a non-Muslim, just showing your HATRED to me. So thankfully the rest of the Muslim Brothers and Sisters can see that, and avoid turning out like you.

So your view is so limited that even Muslims who do not agree with your interpretations are to be insulted?

Zafran, if you want to discuss end times I will be more than happy to do so on another thread. Just PM me if you start one and I will reply.

 

[Ali_008]

I'm sorry for being so dumb but I'm not able to catch the drift of this thread. Can someone please tell me what's the point of this thread? There are so many things piled one upon another here that I'm madly confused. imsad :-[

 

[h-n]

It is also what good people do. They point out the faults of others in order that they will hopefully correct them.



So your view is so limited that even Muslims who do not agree with your interpretations are to be insulted?

Zafran, if you want to discuss end times I will be more than happy to do so on another thread. Just PM me if you start one and I will reply.

1. Zafran has not even commented on the points of this thread, so what are you talking about that he doesn't agree with me?? He has even discussed any of the relevant points.
2. I'm am not going to listen to someone who is clearly ignoring everything that I have written, so its not even about the other Muslims not agreeing with me, its about the fact that he has not even discussed the points as per post 1 of this thread. Also there is no room for interpretation in Islam, it is the truth the same message provided by all the Prophets. How laughable, even the US picks and chooses with Muslim to talk to, which gets along with their opinions, you did not want to discuss my points about the end times, but now your asking Zafran to discuss them with you (when he has not even mentioned them), to help divide Muslims.
3. He should realise that I am correct that you have been warned, and you are not repenting. Even the threads if you had something to say about any of the points raised, you would have mentioned any faults non-stop. My threads are understandable to non-Muslims about Islam. You have only again been critical of how I am.

Your only jumping on the bandwagon created by other Muslims who have been critical of me, when they had no cause to, as they should realise if the non-Muslims had found a fault in what I have said, they would have been critical of me non-stop. At least you cannot say on the Day of Judgement you have not been warned.

 

[h-n]

I'm sorry for being so dumb but I'm not able to catch the drift of this thread. Can someone please tell me what's the point of this thread? There are so many things piled one upon another here that I'm madly confused. imsad :-[

This thread is in response to personal critical comments on me, so I decided to write this thread to say why I write, and what I do. As the critical comments I have, has been to say the least bizarre, everytime I talk to some Muslims to try and help them be more steadfast in Islam, they quickly tell me how to talk to non-Muslims.

For example;-

If I only had 1 day to leave the UK and join the rest of the Muslims to join the Mahdi, then I would not be discussing how to teach Islam to non-Muslims (Dawah), I would quickly want to teach other Muslims what I know. As its a tough time, and you cannot afford to have anything make you waiver from Islam, as of course the Dajjal will also be here.

So to me there is nothing wrong with what I am doing, and I can't change how I am as I am heeding the signs of the Day of Judgement.

 

[glo]

This thread is in response to personal critical comments on me, so I decided to write this thread to say why I write, and what I do. As the critical comments I have, has been to say the least bizarre, everytime I talk to some Muslims to try and help them be more steadfast in Islam, they quickly tell me how to talk to non-Muslims.

If you are receiving much constructive criticism from other Muslims, could it just be possible that they are right and you are wrong??
Have you considered the possibility that you may need to look at yourself, your attitude towards others and your understanding of your own faith?

What makes you so sure that you are right and the others are wrong?

 

[h-n]

If you are receiving much constructive criticism from other Muslims, could it just be possible that they are right and you are wrong??
Have you considered the possibility that you may need to look at yourself, your attitude towards others and your understanding of your own faith?

What makes you so sure that you are right and the others are wrong?

Why another individual who cannot read?? If you look at the criticism, they have not been critical of any points that I have mentioned. When have they been critical of what I have actually been writing about??? They have been critical of they way I write and I explained that in this thread-which they have refused to acknowledge. So were is the constructive criticism? <_< Only sinners side with Muslims who they can see less weak in Islam etc. Your doing the same thing.

Why are you even mentioning me understanding my own faith?? You an idol worshipper. There is nothing wrong with my understanding of Islam. What makes you say that nothing. Look at yourself refusing to stop your idol worship. Again none of them have been critical of what I have written. How I talk and write is perfectly acceptable as per post 1 of this thread.

Hopefully the rest of the Muslims can see how stupid they have been, that is why the sinners are siding with them, just as the west picks and chooses who less represents what being a Muslims is all about. :lol:

I don't have to change, and I certainly would not be told to change by people less looking towards the Day of Judgement then me! REpeat that on the Day of Judgement!

I have explained the way I am, but they even refused to acknowledge the relevant points.

Of course I am right, if they want to behave like sissys that is their problem, they should just as remember that there are those that are being tortured in the grave, they don't have the opportunity to repent and be steadfast in Islam, here we do, so take the information provided and stop complaining. They want people to talk to them if they are like children?? After the many wars, natural disasters, abuses, physical, sexual etc and they want to sit there and say they need someone to be nice to them to heed the warning.

Allah is never going to say that a person who has not heeded the signs of the Day of Judgement as being kind, innocent etc. He is never going to say that its accepatable for people to ignore the signs of the Day of Judgement. Even Allah has stated that nations were destroyed before them, what makes them think that they will just sit there and nothing happen.

Lastly stay out of the affairs of Muslims! We don't invite idol worshippers to talk when clearly its an issue between Muslims!

 

[glo]

Hopefully the rest of the Muslims can see how stupid they have been

Last time I heard speaking badly about fellow Muslims and back-stabbing was not condoned in Islam ... and here you are calling your brothers and sisters stupid? :hmm:

Sister h-n, I may not be as knowledgeable in Islam as most Muslims are, but I have spent several years in this forum and I have learned much about Islam in the process. And there is much about Islam I deeply respect and admire. It's instructions regarding conduct towards other people (Muslims and non-Muslims) is one of those things.

Of course I am right, if they want to behave like sissys that is their problem.

You see, I tend to be suspicious about people who claim to know it all and have the full truth. It just seems a little too prideful to me ...

I find that as people get older in years and mature in their faith, they find it easier to be humble and admit their own short-comings, faults and weaknesses.
You will not find any of the more mature and well-respected Muslim brothers and sisters here is this forum standing up proudly and declaring that they are right! On the contrary, they are the ones most likely to show humility.

Beware! The higher your pride takes you, the deeper you may end up falling!
Allah knows best.

Lastly stay out of the affairs of Muslims! We don't invite idol worshippers to talk when clearly its an issue between Muslims!

With all due respect, but you are wrong.
I am very grateful to this forum and the mods who run it, to be open and inviting to non-Muslims and to give them a place to explore this beautiful and interesting religion, and to ask questions about it.

The introduction to this forum in Google says: "Islamic Forum for the Muslim and non-Muslim community. Discuss here about Islam and the oneness of Allah."

Perhaps it is you who is in the wrong forum??
I call this place very much my cyber home. :statisfie

 

[h-n]

Last time I heard speaking badly about fellow Muslims and back-stabbing was not condoned in Islam ... and here you are calling your brothers and sisters stupid? :hmm:

Sister h-n, I may not be as knowledgeable in Islam as most Muslims are, but I have spent several years in this forum and I have learned much about Islam in the process. And there is much about Islam I deeply respect and admire. It's instructions regarding conduct towards other people (Muslims and non-Muslims) is one of those things.


You see, I tend to be suspicious about people who claim to know it all and have the full truth. It just seems a little too prideful to me ...

I find that as people get older in years and mature in their faith, they find it easier to be humble and admit their own short-comings, faults and weaknesses.
You will not find any of the more mature and well-respected Muslim brothers and sisters here is this forum standing up proudly and declaring that they are right! On the contrary, they are the ones most likely to show humility.

Beware! The higher your pride takes you, the deeper you may end up falling!
Allah knows best.


With all due respect, but you are wrong.
I am very grateful to this forum and the mods who run it, to be open and inviting to non-Muslims and to give them a place to explore this beautiful and interesting religion, and to ask questions about it.

The introduction to this forum in Google says: "Islamic Forum for the Muslim and non-Muslim community. Discuss here about Islam and the oneness of Allah."

Perhaps it is you who is in the wrong forum??
I call this place very much my cyber home. :statisfie

If a Muslim discards what is relevant, other Muslims are not going to say I am going to follow you. You can use the word stupid, but I am not going to play nice, when its obviously not helping Muslims to be steadfast in Islam. So why should I accept something that does not help save me from the fires of Hell.

Typical sinner, just talking about how people should be, when you lead them to Hell, as per the other thread "Love, love say the Christians (but I say they are liars), and "Why Prophet Jesus peace be upon him does not love the Christians"

Of course I'm right, what do you think that Allah gave us the Quran for, to read it and say we maybe wrong if we follow it? Allah has told us the truth, ie no idol worship. What do you think Allah is going to do on the Day of Judgement surprise us and say homosexuality is acceptable? etc. Allah provides a fair test, which means that we already know of what is right or wrong so we know what to avoid, to avoid the fires of Hell.

Allah also did not ask people to be weak when going against evil, even in war we do not turn our back on our enemies. This is about being strong to face the Major signs of the Day of Judgement, not teaching the Muslim Men and Women to be sissys and teach them how to sing in a church. We are the only servants who fight in the name of Allah, what did you expect us to be? Weak? Are you going to call an angel arrogant because it won't take any rubbish from sinners?

I am confident and strong in Islam, not arrogant, I want the rest of the Muslim Brothers and Sisters to do well, hence why I am sharing what I know. How many arrogant people have you met talking about the Day of Judgement? I would spend time looking down on people and not sharing what I know. I came to this forum, as with anyone, we don't know how long we are in this world. Considering that people don't have long to learn and with the collapse of these countries, I have decided to share what I know.

Also why bother trying to say I have the what I have written is wrong-when no other Muslim has said that?

Also I've already explained my intentions, we are not going to sit here and have a chit chat with idol worshippers when the Dajjal is here etc. So its a reminder, and the right one too. How long have you been here? What is this place? Facebook or something? You listen to the message of Islam and choose to repent or not, and not waste the time of Muslim Brothers and Sisters.

Typical trying to decide which one is better to talk to like the US. I am a Muslim, a servant of Allah, I bow down to no other. Whatever you say about my other Muslim Brothers and Sisters, just remember one thing, they are my Muslim Brothers and Sisters! So no matter how nice they are to you, they have to accept me as a Sister whether they like it or not. :haha:

Talking about maturity and respected, I don't need to be respected by anyone and for maturity, well I am mature, just because I come on a website to only talk about serious issues in a short space of time, does not mean I am not mature. Frankly you can see on the Day of Judgement!! But no one has ever called me immature etc in real life. Even if I was immature, it would be impossible for me to learn what I know today, any Muslims would be able to recognise that.

Also this is a Muslim forum, I am specifically talking to MY Muslim Brothers and Sisters. You don't see a Muslim interfering when two Christians want to talk to each other, on a Christian website.

You an idol worshipper, can never be an arbiter in the affairs of Muslims, and certainly not with mine. What a shame, is this what this is about, you expect Muslims to be into idle talk. All I have done is just placed reminders and summarised relevant points.

After hearing the truth, they threw Prophet Ibrahim into the fire, and invaded Prophet Lut peace be upon him's home. They couldn't stand being reminded of the truth so they wanted to get rid of them. That is why they want to get rid of Islam, so they can have their fun in this world.

I don't belong in a Muslim forum and you do? Saying that I am in the wrong forum? I've only been here a week, and people already want me gone. Its a good job I have not been here years before you had your fun, and now don't expect my Muslim Brothers and Sisters to be interested in more idle talk when they will be heeding the signs of the Day of Judgement more. :lol:

 

[espada]

Sister h-n, have you ever considered starting a blog?

 

[glo]

Also this is a Muslim forum, I am specifically talking to MY Muslim Brothers and Sisters. You don't see a Muslim interfering when two Christians want to talk to each other, on a Christian website.

That's a silly statement to make. I hope you realise that. :giggling:


But on a serious note, this is a public forum for Muslims and non-Muslims alike and you will find Muslims and non-Muslims contributing in most sections of the forum. Especially this 'General Forums' section has little restrictions where the contributions are concerned.

You might be better off posting your kind of threads in the 'Learn about Islam' section, which - by the nature of the topics - tends to be visited more by Muslims. I seem to remember that threads need to be approved by mods, so it might be a while before they appear, but I think your threads might fit there quite nicely.

Other than that, there are two areas which are restricted to Muslims only - the gender specific section (I think as a sister you require 300 posts before you can apply as a member there) and the 'Advice and Support' section (You can start a thread there now, but need to be a member in the before-mentioned 'Sisters' section' before you can actually post. To be honest, that may not be the right section for the purpose of your threads.)
So, if you want to speak to Muslims only, perhaps the Sisters' section is the best solution for you.


Your seeming anger and hatred towards non-Muslims is quite worrying to me. If all people thought like you, this world would be in a complete state of turmoil, war and hatred.
Is that what Allah wants?


Anyway, to you your religion, sister h-n, and to me mine.
I hope you find a place of peace - either here in this forum or elsewhere.

 

[h-n]

Sister h-n, have you ever considered starting a blog?

Salam,

I have not thought of starting one.

Sister h-n.

 

[h-n]

That's a silly statement to make. I hope you realise that. :giggling:


But on a serious note, this is a public forum for Muslims and non-Muslims alike and you will find Muslims and non-Muslims contributing in most sections of the forum. Especially this 'General Forums' section has little restrictions where the contributions are concerned.

You might be better off posting your kind of threads in the 'Learn about Islam' section, which - by the nature of the topics - tends to be visited more by Muslims. I seem to remember that threads need to be approved by mods, so it might be a while before they appear, but I think your threads might fit there quite nicely.

Other than that, there are two areas which are restricted to Muslims only - the gender specific section (I think as a sister you require 300 posts before you can apply as a member there) and the 'Advice and Support' section (You can start a thread there now, but need to be a member in the before-mentioned 'Sisters' section' before you can actually post. To be honest, that may not be the right section for the purpose of your threads.)
So, if you want to speak to Muslims only, perhaps the Sisters' section is the best solution for you.


Your seeming anger and hatred towards non-Muslims is quite worrying to me. If all people thought like you, this world would be in a complete state of turmoil, war and hatred.
Is that what Allah wants?


Anyway, to you your religion, sister h-n, and to me mine.
I hope you find a place of peace - either here in this forum or elsewhere.

Clearly avoiding, I have come on a Muslim website. You know very well that I am specifically talking to my Muslim Brothers and Sisters. Now your telling me to post elsewhere, who told you to post in my threads? Of course I cannot stop anyone, but you went too far to advise. You are an idol worshipper, you cannot come into the affairs of Muslims! So your the one who should realise how stupid you are.

Thank-you for proving how stupid Christianity is, which is why they stood idly by when they tried to kill Prophet Jesus peace be upon him. What did you expect Servants of Allah to do?

1. If you were alive at the time of Prophet Noah peace be upon him would you be "socialising" with the sinners, whilst he is telling them to repent?

2. If you were alive at the time of Prophet Lut peace be upon him would you be "socialising" with the homosexuals, whilst he is telling the to repent.

3. We provide a message of Islam, if you don't repent, then don't, but don't bother wasting the time of Muslims with idle chit chat. AS this is the only time people have to repent. There are people who cannot turn back now and are being tortured in the grave.

4. WE stand with the Prophets as we had done when Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was here, the Muslims did not join Islam at that time to have it easy, they were persecuted. If we wanted the sinners to be nice to us, then frankly we would never have joined Islam. We are with the Prophet, not with sinners. It is not for us after hearing the message of Islam to stand with sinners and socialise with them.

5. We are tolerant of Sinners. My Parents had even taken in Jehovah's witness couple for months, when they had no place to stay. We help out with a few elderly Christians. No non-Muslims has ever had a problem with me etc. What I am not going to do is teach Muslims that it is acceptable to be a non-Muslim (as taught by all the Prophets), this is not what Allah has taught us. Allah will not say on the Day of Judgement it was acceptable for people not to repent.

6. You talk about kindness when your people did not come to the aid of Prophet Jesus peace be upon him. At least if Muslims were there, we would have done so. So your not in a position to say how Muslims should be. As we fight against evil, and not care about what sinners are saying. Your talking about Muslims being acceptable to non-Muslims, we are only here to please Allah.

7. Even the angels would not sit with Devils. People are being tested, that is why we share the world with evil and good. The Prophets have never taught us to change and be weak so the sinners will get along with me, and accept me more.

8. So all your teaching people is that you too would have stood idly by and watched as they were abusive to Prophet Jesus peace be upon him when he was in this world.

 

[glo]

^
I'm glad you appreciate my advice with regards to which sections to post in, if you wish to speak to Muslims only.
No need to thank me.