He cannot lower his gaze because there are too many women

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Your sentence had it coming, given that you tried to imply that men say it's impossible when they don't.
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You must have read next sentence after the one I said,
I did not deny women are fitna to men. I clearly said isn’t as hard as people here make out.
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I was suggesting the difficulties are exaggerated. I think it is exaggerated so much, one would think the whole deen is focused on the fitna of women!

If you are divorced and don't want to marry again, then that's your choice but just for reference: If you'd like a happy marriage, drop this men hating attitude.
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What gave you the idea that I was divorced or never wanting to marry!
 

I was suggesting the difficulties are exaggerated. I think it is exaggerated so much, one would think the whole deen is focused on the fitna of women!
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I know what you meant. I'd say you were the one doing some exaggerating.

What gave you the idea that I was divorced or never wanting to marry!
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You said you had bitter experiences (implying divorce) and you'd only change for your son (implying that you'd never marry).
 
I was perfectly well in tune wit the topic, what I said is related. I think its u who shud stop jumping to conclusions n missed to understand my point.

Thanks for ur advice-joined-wit-insult. Its very beneficial...?

u got a very bitter tone, save it.
 
sweet106 said:


I was suggesting the difficulties are exaggerated. I think it is exaggerated so much, one would think the whole deen is focused on the fitna of women!
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for many brothers the MAJOR contributing factor that stopped them from accepting/practising upon the truth was the fitna of women. really i think if men could learn only one thing it should be how to lower their gaze, after this everything else is basically secondary because it becomes so easy.
 
Alpha Dude said:
I know what you meant. I'd say you were the one doing some exaggerating.

You said you had bitter experiences (implying divorce) and you'd only change for your son (implying that you'd never marry).
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Nope, I not am doing any exaggeration. If there was any exaggeration is probably from my observation.
And does these bitter experiences always lead to divorce?

My son is the most important “male” in my life!
 
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tango92 said:
for many brothers the MAJOR contributing factor that stopped them from accepting/practising upon the truth was the fitna of women. really i think if men could learn only one thing it should be how to lower their gaze, after this everything else is basically secondary because it becomes so easy.
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Salam

thanks for that.
 
Yanoorah said:
I was perfectly well in tune wit the topic, what I said is related. I think its u who shud stop jumping to conclusions n missed to understand my point.
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No, what you said was off.

"that doesn't make it the sisters fault, no1 cares about ur hormones excuses keep that to urself pls. "

This means: 'You guys here are giving pervy guys an excuse'. Which nobody did.

u got a very bitter tone, save it.
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People usually find beneficial medicine bitter.
 
brother alpha dude is right. women are a fitna for men. even imam buhkari reported this from the prophet mohammad (saw) and its a sound hadith.

this is why us women are ordered to cover up from head to toe. i think we should fear Allah and honestly keep our disagreements in our pockets inshallah.
 
sweet106 said:
I rather play the violin for greater hardship Muslims come across than lowering one’s gaze! And I embraced to say some Muslim men still stare at those wearing proper hijab and even nigab. As a result, some say women should be staying indoors 24/7 :)
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Are you saying that Muslim women are told to stay home, because men stare at them?
 
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Yanoorah said:
^Sis sweet106 doesn't need ur respect to be honest she spoke the truth, it hurts? get over it 'man'. Nor did she display any attitude, why are brothers getting all heated up about the simple truth?

Its true some brothers will hit on sistas even if they are dressed properly n are not wearing any make up, that doesn't make it the sisters fault, no1 cares about ur hormones excuses keep that to urself pls.

I was once in a lift wit a brotha who kept saying 'MashaAllah MashaAllah' but trust me it was no sincere mashaAllah, it was a pervy one.

Now I cringe when I hear the word 'MashaAllah'...
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this happened with me too and i said Alhamdulilah.

u shouldnt cringe when u hear the word mashallah because he probably was just proud to see a sister who was modest looking :)
 
Alpha Dude said:
No, what you said was off.

"that doesn't make it the sisters fault, no1 cares about ur hormones excuses keep that to urself pls. "

This means: 'You guys here are giving pervy guys an excuse'. Which nobody did.
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Some people did, re'read through the thread, not necessarily for harrasssing sistas, but that they can't lower their gaze. I was just speaking generally but its still related.

People usually find beneficial medicine bitter.
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1 who gives sincere advice does not flatter himself.
 
Some people did, re'read through the thread, not necessarily for harrasssing sistas, but that they can't lower their gaze. I was just speaking generally but its still related.
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Very debatable but believe as you wish.

As for your second comment, if you really think I'm trying to flatter myself, look up what husn al dhaan means.
 
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Are you saying that Muslim women are told to stay home and because men stare at them?
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I could not make it any clearer?

@Cat
I did not say women were not fitna to men!! I never said that at all. I didn’t even disagree with that! I simply had a problem with constant complaining about lowering one gaze and questioning the focus of these difficulties!
 
sweet106 said:
I could not make it any clearer?

@Cat
I did not say women were not fitna to men!! I never said that at all. I didn’t even disagree with that! I simply had a problem with constant complaining about lowering one gaze and questioning the focus of these difficulties!
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okay sis:wub:
 
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